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HF or baiting.......which is first to go
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09/09/15 09:05 PM
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All this got me thinking. Which do you think will be the first to get outlawed.......HF hunting or baiting deer? I can see how the fish and game could say no more corn feeders and get it done quick, but I don't see how they could tell a landowner to put in new fences knowing what that costs and how long it would take. So for you people who don't like HF but like your corn feeders, do you really think a law would be passed banning HF first? If they banned corn first, would you still argue that people have a bigger problem with HF over baiting?
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Re: HF or baiting.......which is first to go
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09/09/15 09:07 PM
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Re: HF or baiting.......which is first to go
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Im sure they said that in New Mexico right before they banned baiting of all species.
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09/09/15 09:13 PM
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Im sure they said that in New Mexico right before they banned baiting of all species. Yet they will let you run lions and bears with dogs
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09/09/15 09:13 PM
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I don't think either will go in TX. They are both deeply imbedded in the hunting culture here. Plus our politicians are way different than in NM, CO, CA, etc.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: HF or baiting.......which is first to go
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09/09/15 09:15 PM
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I don't think either will go in TX. They are both deeply imbedded in the hunting culture here. Plus our politicians are way different than in NM, CO, CA, etc.
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09/09/15 09:20 PM
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i think it'll be from a knee jerk reaction to get a ban pushed through. If CWD becomes an issue with tpwd, I could see HF deer movement and baiting banned as a reaction.
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Re: HF or baiting.......which is first to go
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09/09/15 09:26 PM
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I hope neither will go, but hunters bashing hunters will never help them stay. I want to hunt high fence, over bait, from a helicopter - pretty sure texas is the last place where I can make that happen!
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Re: HF or baiting.......which is first to go
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09/09/15 09:27 PM
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Utah might be an option at some point, but only if you're up to date on your SFW membership.
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Re: HF or baiting.......which is first to go
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09/09/15 09:29 PM
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Re: HF or baiting.......which is first to go
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Yeah... probably so... but its still all about the $$
Wonder how much difference there is between both states annual income from Hunting....
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I don't think either will go in TX. They are both deeply imbedded in the hunting culture here. Plus our politicians are way different than in NM, CO, CA, etc.
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Re: HF or baiting.......which is first to go
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09/09/15 10:27 PM
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When you can be put in jail for your religious belief's... anything is possible.
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Re: HF or baiting.......which is first to go
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I don't think either one will go but if one does it would be baiting
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Re: HF or baiting.......which is first to go
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09/09/15 11:45 PM
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Im sure they said that in New Mexico right before they banned baiting of all species. There is a big difference between NM and Texas. Private land ownership trumps fed land ownership. NP is right again... our politicians/lawyers won't allow the public to take away our individual rights.
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I submit the recent CWD brouhaha as evidence to support my claim. Tpwd and tahc were at first going to destroy all deer in the index ranch and all ranches that had stocked deer from that ranch. They soon were reminded who exactly pays their salaries. A "compromise" was reached so they could save face, but they are pretty much neutered now. As it should be.
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Re: HF or baiting.......which is first to go
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09/10/15 12:49 AM
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Both baiting and HF have supporters and detractors. In the end I do not believe either will be outlawed in Texas.
Here in VA baiting is illegal (but next door in Maryland it is) and HF is illegal (but next door in West VA and PA it is legal). So each state has their own "norm."
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Re: HF or baiting.......which is first to go
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I don't see how (using "logic") someone can be told how high to build a fence on their own property. They could also be High Fencing to keep things out. How are "they" going to determine what is going on?
As for baiting.... Everyone has already figured out a way around that. It takes more effort than some mechanical device slinging food. But... Planting crops for "harvest" is not "baiting".
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09/10/15 01:31 AM
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Re: HF or baiting.......which is first to go
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09/10/15 01:33 AM
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Doesn't matter to me if they got rid of both. I'd still hunt, enjoy it, and fill my freezer.
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Re: HF or baiting.......which is first to go
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09/10/15 02:53 AM
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Neither will ever go and neither should
I don't like HFs but that's just a preference. Landowners should be allowed to put whatever kind of fence they want up. It's not my land so it's not my problem. I personally find more satisfaction taking free range deer over a HF deer. That's just me though. More power to those making money off of HF deer and more power to those who like to pay to shoot them.
The Midwest hunters who think a corn feeder is wrong but planting a food plot isn't are ignorant. You are going to tell me it's ok to plant 30 acres of corn to attract deer but I'm not a real hunter because I hunt a corn feeder? I don't get that logic.
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09/10/15 02:56 AM
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Neither will ever go and neither should
I don't like HFs but that's just a preference. Landowners should be allowed to put whatever kind of fence they want up. It's not my land so it's not my problem. I personally find more satisfaction taking free range deer over a HF deer. That's just me though. More power to those making money off of HF deer and more power to those who like to pay to shoot them.
The Midwest hunters who think a corn feeder is wrong but planting a food plot isn't are ignorant. You are going to tell me it's ok to plant 30 acres of corn to attract deer but I'm not a real hunter because I hunt a corn feeder? I don't get that logic. Yes Sir... How's that Golf Course looking up that way...love that course
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Re: HF or baiting.......which is first to go
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Neither will ever go and neither should
I don't like HFs but that's just a preference. Landowners should be allowed to put whatever kind of fence they want up. It's not my land so it's not my problem. I personally find more satisfaction taking free range deer over a HF deer. That's just me though. More power to those making money off of HF deer and more power to those who like to pay to shoot them.
The Midwest hunters who think a corn feeder is wrong but planting a food plot isn't are ignorant. You are going to tell me it's ok to plant 30 acres of corn to attract deer but I'm not a real hunter because I hunt a corn feeder? I don't get that logic. Yes Sir... How's that Golf Course looking up that way...love that course Looking pretty good but I don't get to golf much. I figure the wife will go ahead a kill me if I add golf to the hunting and fishing.
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