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#5881332
08/16/15 09:35 PM
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TXW
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Is a deer protein feeder considered baiting for dove purposes? I wouldn't think so, but the question has been raised since we placed a protein feeder close to a tank so the protein would be close to a water source for the deer. Needless to say, a tank in Texas is always an ideal dove spot as well. I'm sure we aren't the only ones that have come across this dilemma. Feeder is a little over 100 yards away.
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: TXW]
#5881350
08/16/15 09:52 PM
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poisonivie
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Very iffy. I think most GW would say yes.
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: poisonivie]
#5881357
08/16/15 09:56 PM
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WNPHNTR
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Yes it would be considered a baited area.
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: poisonivie]
#5881358
08/16/15 09:56 PM
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BuckRage
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Very iffy. I think most GW would say yes.
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: TXW]
#5881366
08/16/15 10:04 PM
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krmitchell
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If the dove eat the protein then yes it is baited.
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: krmitchell]
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08/16/15 10:08 PM
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Guy
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If the dove eat the protein then yes it is baited. This^^^^
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: TXW]
#5881428
08/16/15 10:48 PM
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I've seen posted on here were guys have been ticketed for hunting near a feeder that was on the neighbors property, hundreds of yards away.
A call to your local warden is quick, and you will get his interpretation of the rules. Every warden will see this different.
We like to hunt a small 200 acre place that has 3 feeders. According to some of the interpretations I have read, we can't dove hunt there because a dove could be flying to a feeder.
"Man is still a hunter, still a simple searcher after meat..." Robert C. Ruark
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: TXW]
#5881465
08/16/15 11:21 PM
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Michael W.
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I was a guest on a large ranch a few years ago that had quite a few feeders, and we were hunting dove. The Warden told us we needed to stay at least 400 yds away from the feeders. Not sure thats a law, probably just his opinion. I guess that could be a problem if your hunting on a small tract of land and the neighbors have feeders out.
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: TXW]
#5881475
08/16/15 11:32 PM
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sallysue
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And its all depends on the G W but I wouldnt take the chance
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: TXW]
#5881496
08/16/15 11:47 PM
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outdoorsmen54
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Had a game warden tell me I couldn't dove hunt my place last season because of a neighbors feeder. I shut mine off 10 days before dove season like the law says. This year, she hasn't been poken her nose around yet so I think I may jump the fence and kill his feeder. He don't hunt anyway. He think all deer are his pets. Has even stopped and yelled across the fence to ruin my hunt. Game warden said she couldn't do nothing about that. Funny part is his uncle owns a processing plant and they haven't talked in years.
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: outdoorsmen54]
#5881863
08/17/15 02:37 AM
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SouthWestIron
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Had a game warden tell me I couldn't dove hunt my place last season because of a neighbors feeder. I shut mine off 10 days before dove season like the law says. This year, she hasn't been poken her nose around yet so I think I may jump the fence and kill his feeder. He don't hunt anyway. He think all deer are his pets. Has even stopped and yelled across the fence to ruin my hunt. Game warden said she couldn't do nothing about that. Funny part is his uncle owns a processing plant and they haven't talked in years. Ah I think you need to make a phone call to her supervisor. This is taken driectly off the tpwd.texas.gov website. "Harassment Harassment of hunters, trappers or anglers (Sportsmen's Rights Act) is punishable by a fine of $200 to $2000 and/or 180 days in jail."
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: TXW]
#5882203
08/17/15 01:58 PM
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JBlack
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I have spoken to several game wardens over this same topic. The law does not state a distance, so it is up to the judge/game warden to determine if you are in fault. I have 18,000 photos of my feeder this year and not one dove under it. I dont see it as baiting, but the rule does not say they ever have to eat any. It says if the bait could attract dove. I went this weekend and turned one feeder off and placed another away from the dove hunting areas. that is the best i can do on a small acre lease.
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: TXW]
#5882229
08/17/15 02:14 PM
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TXW
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I have a call into our Game Warden and waiting to hear back. I have reviewed the TPWD book and it doesn't state anything regarding distance, size of property, etc. The law appears so open as to any hunting location could be considered a baited location since there are corn feeders and protein feeders spread all over Texas. I'll pass along any info I receive.
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: TXW]
#5882288
08/17/15 02:45 PM
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Guy
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I have a call into our Game Warden and waiting to hear back. I have reviewed the TPWD book and it doesn't state anything regarding distance, size of property, etc. The law appears so open as to any hunting location could be considered a baited location since there are corn feeders and protein feeders spread all over Texas. I'll pass along any info I receive. Distance does not matter. If birds are going to the bait, and you are shooting birds going to/from the bait, that's a violation. If no birds are going to the bait, there is no violation.
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: Guy]
#5882294
08/17/15 02:51 PM
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I have a call into our Game Warden and waiting to hear back. I have reviewed the TPWD book and it doesn't state anything regarding distance, size of property, etc. The law appears so open as to any hunting location could be considered a baited location since there are corn feeders and protein feeders spread all over Texas. I'll pass along any info I receive. Distance does not matter. If birds are going to the bait, and you are shooting birds going to/from the bait, that's a violation. If no birds are going to the bait, there is no violation. but...that's way to easy to understand
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: Guy]
#5882332
08/17/15 03:18 PM
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I have a call into our Game Warden and waiting to hear back. I have reviewed the TPWD book and it doesn't state anything regarding distance, size of property, etc. The law appears so open as to any hunting location could be considered a baited location since there are corn feeders and protein feeders spread all over Texas. I'll pass along any info I receive. Distance does not matter. If birds are going to the bait, and you are shooting birds going to/from the bait, that's a violation. If no birds are going to the bait, there is no violation. That is why we only shoot the ones that don't look like they are flying to a feeder. 
"Man is still a hunter, still a simple searcher after meat..." Robert C. Ruark
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: Simple Searcher]
#5882349
08/17/15 03:29 PM
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Guy
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Well that's the law, it's as simple as that. Point is, if birds are not going to a feeder, then there is no violation. If birds are going to a feeder, that's a problem you need to deal with, either remove the feeder/bait or don't hunt anywhere near it.
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: Guy]
#5882487
08/17/15 05:01 PM
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ndhunter
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Well that's the law, it's as simple as that. Point is, if birds are not going to a feeder, then there is no violation. If birds are going to a feeder, that's a problem you need to deal with, either remove the feeder/bait or don't hunt anywhere near it. Can you post a link? Might be helpful to everyone.
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: TXW]
#5883079
08/17/15 10:34 PM
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RedRaider3933
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So what if you plant sunflowers or corn strictly for attracting dove and not to harvest for profit? Is that baiting?
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: RedRaider3933]
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08/17/15 10:55 PM
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udamdan
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No ,that would be a manipulated crop which is totally legal .
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: RedRaider3933]
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08/18/15 05:45 PM
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nsmike
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So what if you plant sunflowers or corn strictly for attracting dove and not to harvest for profit? Is that baiting? Dove rules no Waterfowl rules maybe, food plots could be consider baiting, there's a couple of normal agriculture practices tests that apply.
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: nsmike]
#5884592
08/18/15 08:08 PM
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WestTxAg07
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So what if you plant sunflowers or corn strictly for attracting dove and not to harvest for profit? Is that baiting? Dove rules no Waterfowl rules maybe, food plots could be consider baiting, there's a couple of normal agriculture practices tests that apply. This is correct. But what I don't understand is you can plant a field in millet, flood it for duck season, and run guided hunts off of it and that is considered a "normal agriculture practice." But some guy sets up too close to a feeder and gets a ticket. Give me a break!
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: TXW]
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08/18/15 09:33 PM
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BDB
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If I was on my property with no feeders/active feeders I would not give a rats-ss if my neighbors had feeders out or not. I would hunt legally on my property and deal with it if it comes down to it. I would hedge my bets that property rights would win in court over what a game warden perceived to be baiting when the bait was not on your property and you had nothing to do with putting it out.
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Re: Dove Baiting
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#5885005
08/19/15 12:23 AM
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Stompy
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My GW told me my guys need to stay at least 200 yards away from any active corn feeders. He also told me that it's up to each GW what that distance is.
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Re: Dove Baiting
[Re: TXW]
#5885230
08/19/15 02:26 AM
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I think it is the GW's call, so you should ask him. He's available. Track him down and ask him what his determination would be.
It may be different from one guy to the next.
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