New to reloading, do you have to use the sizer die on new brass?

They should be ready to load. You could check this by seeing if they all chamber and bolt closes easily before loading.

But :
A lot of the necks and cases get beat up in shipment and it is hard to see.
I would go ahead and resize cases and then check lenght to make sure case is not at max. If these cases are already primed just remove the depriming pin so you will not have to reprime.

Thanks for the info.

you have to run all new brass through the resizing process before loading!! Look at the case necks and mouths, some of them could be deformed! either way you have to resize all of them!!!!

i resize all of my new brass everytime. the shoulder looks sharper, and the mouth is perfectly round, so you dont "shave" bullets when you press them in.

After a good visual inspection, I always run mine thru a neck sizer and then trim and bevel/chamfer the neck. Then you know your ready to go,and everything is uniform from the start.

jeh7mmmag is on the money, it does not hurt to run them thru either a neck sizer or full length sizer, but it does not HAVE to be done.

Visually inspect each case, chamfering the case mouth helps as does running the primer pocket de-burr on each case.

Yuo will find everyone has a different routine/ritual when it comes to reloading, all it is, is what they have gotten used to and works best in their system.

The only HAVE too's, that I can think of when it comes to reloading/handloading are:

1. Follow the load chart for the caliber you are loading.

2. Make sure you have the correct size primer for the caliber you are loading.

3. Check each case visually for cracks anywhere on the case and for the case mouth and primer pocket to be concentric and not boogered up.

4. Make sure you have the proper diameter bullet for the caliber you are loading.

5. Make sure you have the proper type powder for the caliber you are loading.

6. Make sure the charge you are loading in to each case is corect, that means making sure your powder scale is set and accurate.

From there it gets more into individual habits or routines, each of us is different.

Best of Luck with your loading.

sounds like precision reloading to me! if it don't fit just hit harder with a bigger hammer!

Well, it works. My fire forming load for my 222 shoots about 3/4", and the one for my 7-08 shoots about the same. After fire forming, the 222 will shoot under 1/2", and the 7-08 will hold about 5/8". Good enough for me. And definitely good enough for any critter I've ever shot at.

If your going to neck size brass, it doesn't help to full length size it just to fire form it. As long as it fits in the chamber, and will serve some sort of purpose on it's first firing, why go through the extra steps of full length sizing it just to form it to the chamber? That's when I'd need your stupid little guy with the hammer! But I'll tell ya what, you keep doing what you're doing, and I keep on with mine. And we'll both still know everything. How's that?


Jay

try some hooked on phonics! did you read full length resize anywhere? maybe your ninja skills? deep breaths, count backwards from 10 it will be o.k. big guy!

let me help notice CASE NECKS!

The discussion is about new factory brass here, there should not be any trouble except with case mouths out of round or dings to primer pockets.

What are you getting act?

o k now i'm confused! psycho there are 6 posters on here, including yourself, all of which stated they resize new brass, except for you! crazy horse you said 7 mag was "right on the money" with his post which stated " i would go ahead and resize"????? no it's not written in stone, red asked for input and for some reason out of all those who said resize, you decided to call me out on mine? everyone has different ways of reloading, your initial post seemed like a call out, maybe i took it the wrong way, but we have gotten way outside of giving red advice for our personal squabble here! if your method works for you i say go with it, its your ammo, but every other poster said they resize so i'm still confused why i was the bad guy you decided to call out?! at any rate, if i took your initial response out of context that's my bad, but it seemed like an attack, as you call it. can't we all just get along?

7mag started with this comment:
"They should be ready to load. You could check this by seeing if they all chamber and bolt closes easily before loading."

Just to be clear. Yes, he did say it is a good idea to resize. But the above statement says what I feel is accurate, and does not mean, "either way you have to resize all of them!!!!"

"you have to run all new brass through the resizing process before loading!! Look at the case necks and mouths, some of them could be deformed! either way you have to resize all of them!!!!"


The reason, I guess, I singled you out, is the use of exclamation marks in your post. You used 7 of them in three sentences. It felt to me that you're saying there's no other way (or any other way is wrong). Which certainly is just not true. Sorry if mine seemed like an attack. But your post seemed like anyone doing it any other way is wrong. And I stood my ground.

I may not have been 100% clear, but I never said I resize new brass 9not even neck size). Because I do NOT. I might hit the mouth with a chamfer tool so it does not shave the side of a bullet, but only if it's dented. If the mouth is crushed beyond fixing it with a chamfer tool, I toss it. After fire forming I work my brass extensively. If I were to do any of this before fire forming, it would really be a waste of time since almost every dimension will be different after it's formed anyway.

No hard feelings man. I'm a thick skinned guy. But I'm gonna defend myself when necessary. And I'm gonna throw up a BS flag when I fell it's needed too. Your punctuation is what made your post stand out to me. Sorry for that, if that's not the way you meant it.

Jay

And now, to the OP...

Sorry about all this bickering on your thread.

My advice would be that's it's not 100% necessary to re-size a new piece of brass. But as you can see, the consensus says do it. Make your own decision. Either way I don't feel you'd be doing it wrong.

But, IF you are going to neck size from there on out. There's really no sense in it. Your only working the brass then letting it expand back out to where it'll be the rest of it's life.

If full length sizing from there on out, I still don't feel it's necessary, to each to their own.

However, if you are planning on full length sizing from now on, you might look into neck sizing (as long as it's a bolt action or single shot). Auto loaders, and tube feeds don't like chamber sized cases very much. You can get more consistent accuracy, and longer case life by neck sizing.


Jay

no hard feelings on my end either buddy! i reckon i should have worded my response a bit differently

I would do it for consistency purposes. I even do it with my Norma brass as well. If I was producing a bunch I probably would not. I reload for for the accuracy side of it and not the cost savings. To each there own but I would resize prior to loading. My $.02's.

I personally don't resize new brass. I do run the brass in the sizing die just far enough to run the expander ball through the neck. This takes out any dents in the neck. There's nothing wrong with doing a complete resize but in my experience it is not worthwhile.