Let me be a little more specific. I hunt atleast 8 predator/varmint contests mid December through the first of april. Sometimes up to 10. To hunt that many contests you have to have a lot of land lined out. The last few years its getting harder and harder to get land to hunt. And alot of the places are being called by deer hunters during deer season, and because of the saturation of electronic calls on the market recently and great shows on satelite like Foxpros furtakers, predator nation, dead dog walking, predator pursuit, ect more guys are taking interest. From personal experience places where others have been calling, whether theyre professionals or beginners, the animals are harder to call. Especially if they've been over hunted. Its something ive run into and just wanted to know if anyone else is noticing it also. Im not bashing, criticizing, anyone. If you feel that I am, well I don't know what to tell ya.

I agree and have seen the same. While I was being sarcastic in response to Western's post, I have hunted with a CD in the truck, windows down and sat in the bed with a cooler and a spot light. I can assure you that I educated a few animals.

It happens in deer hunting, hog hunting, varmint hunting, etc.

I hunted a 13k acre ranch that was a very target rich environment for yotes. Best we could do was get them to within about 200 yards with our typical rabbit call during night sets. We switched to a turkey call and midday sets and slaughtered them.

Much more pronounced with coyotes though, them Biatches be's smart.

my android wonders more than me, or all-time forgetting on my part, or Gov. Still spying on me. Its a conspiracy i tell you it looks er the other way. Had ta log in again. Didn't log out. Hmmmm. Been seeing few yotes on cams. Any experts got some tips

Wont that make ya a better caller? Help hone in on your hunting skills? OSBWMA finding hogs always been easy part. i'm No Expert. Its easy finding hogs whin their over popilated. Its called Hunting whin hogs been educated. Last few years its been tougher. Last hog i got was 2010 or so. i'll let the experts do the yote calling. i blew it on some hogs the other night. & i gone high-tech still cant get a hog.

Dogdown..im in central texas ...ill take you up on that offer!! Would rather learn a couple trucks than fail miserably....but saying that and to be honest...your first post did sound like you were busting newbies like me up just a tad....but its all good im ready for class!!

Where are you fellas at when you say central TX?

Lake Somerville

question in general----Is there something wrong with wanting to charge hunters $200 night and then complaining about newbies hunting the same land for free?? Maybe messing up the wanna be guide business by using the same Foxpro sounds the guide uses?

$200 a night? The insanity! Do people really pay that much to have a guided Yote/critter hunt?

I wouldnt

I agree and it started with your stupid people comment. We were using hand calls when I first started varmint calling over 50 years ago. A good man with a call was elite and we had ranchers calling us to take care of their predator problem. The world was fine for us until about 1973 or 74 when Burnam Brothers came out with the Cotton Tail tape that had to be played on a cheap portable. Then everybody became varmint hunters and finding a place to call was getting harder and harder. Now we have some truly great equipment available where anybody can call as effectively as anybody else no skill needed. So in my mind I put you on the same level as the people your complaining about.

That sure is and it's very familiar, I said the same thing back in the 70's. Damn them new guys are ruining everything for me!

I still have that Burnham Brothers cassette Dood!
Bought it at their store in downtown Marble Falls.

Back in the day, you had two choices, use the tape or learn to blow a call.
Either could be an adventure and you had to invest actual time and effort to make it work.
I did many trips to Radio Shack buying players, amplifiers, speakers, etc.

Today, there are literally hundreds of "callers" designed to call everything from feral pigs to Purple Martins.
Just drop your credit card and walk out an instant varmint hunter.....or so they would make you believe.

if the animals become educated just become a better hunter, you can't have the animal served up on a platter every time. survival of the fittest I bet if you lived in a cabin and that was eat or die situation you would find there weakness no matter how educated they become.

Killing pigs and piling them up in a pasture is flawless

Keep em coming boys. I love seeing how smart everyone thinks they are.

The best call I've found so far is a live rabbit. I keep it in a cage next to me and twist its ear every few minutes. Draws coyotes like u wouldnt believe.

dallas is getting too big. There's a lot of people.

Hwy_man I use hand calls and diaphragm mouth calls at every stand for atleast a few minutes. Electronic callers help make it through a 24-48 hour contest. Not all of us are full of wind and hot air like others. And im sure the cavemen got a little pissy when you guys started using hand calls with reeds.

Was the same here Vern, I made my own caller with those tapes, sucked when you had one "wrap up" in the middle of somth'n. Radio shack had everything a fellas beeded for arounf fitty bucks!

Can always run them over with the tire too

Tires are ok but I prefer to drop an anvil on them