I may try to downgrade back to 200. I took mine out last night and was having a hard time seeing, even with a UNV20ir. As regards battery life, lithiums do seem to last longer, but mine is still a battery killer. Sorry, but I am not understanding the point of the people who are doing "static" testing of batteries. It seems like saying that my iPhone has xxxx hours of standby time. When I am outside, in the cold, running night mode, scanning the pastures which requires use of processing power, messing with settings, etc...., it seems like the battery draw of the scope would be and is exponentially higher than when the scope is sitting inside in idle mode. I sure hope that ATN can improve battery life, and soon.

TomH FW, the reason I'm doing a "static" test on my scope is because of the fact that in "static" mode, it was consuming batteries at an alarming rate. I certainly understand that a real, live, in-the-field stress test is much more realistic, but if your batteries are dying overnight as the scope sits in the gun safe, something's seriously wrong. If we can figure out why it's killing batteries when it's turned off, we may be able to resolve the issue and possibly even discover other, collateral issues as well that continue to cause us usability problems.

[quote=mikei]TomH FW, the reason I'm doing a "static" test on my scope is because of the fact that in "static" mode, it was consuming batteries at an alarming rate. I certainly understand that a real, live, in-the-field stress test is much more realistic, but if your batteries are dying overnight as the scope sits in the gun safe, something's seriously wrong. If we can figure out why it's killing batteries when it's turned off, we may be able to resolve the issue and possibly even discover other, collateral issues as well that continue to cause us usability problems. [/quote

mikei: I do understand what you are saying, and certainly do agree that if a scope is killing batteries when turned off, that is a serious problem. I have turned off wifi, gps, compass, and everything else I could find.

I'm using a Nightmaster 800IR with the 'turbo' kit - effectively 2 x 18650 batteries rather than one.

Thanks,good to know,but expencive ,
i'm getting the T50 one battery just to loose some weight.
Dont know if the light is good enough for the x-sight.

That is a fine illuminator, I've got one but unfortunatly is shows itself better on the Photon at this time. Pricey but well worth the money.

It is very good and works well with my x-sight. The T50 should work well too. We are seeing some good reports of the Coyote Light here recently. Not sure if they've released an IR version.
However at over £300, I won't be swapping out for that!

I was doing some digging on those Kentli batteries. They intrigued me greatly.

The tech is interesting, but be careful what the mfg claims.

Here's some info I dug up, that makes the true specs of the battery more clear.

Kentli AA 1.5 volt Li-Ion batteries

Now don't get me wrong, I think these batteries might work VERY WELL for the X-Sight. Most importantly will be the consistent voltage delivery throughout it's discharge cycle, which makes it ideal for a microprocessor-based device. These devices NEED a consistent supply of power to operate correctly.

This could be why some people have trouble with the X-Sight as batteries start to drain. It also makes sense why they 'recommend' Lithium disposable batteries be used.

Just figured I'd share, since one needs to be careful not to fall for the marketing hype of batteries - or anything for that matter. I don't mind if tech has flaws - but of course we want to know what we're paying for. I think the controversy surrounding the X-Sight itself is proof positive of that.

Ive got the t67 as well along with a few others but imo the 800ir is awesome when coupled with the turbo kit.

It's now been 9 1/2 hours since I began my "static" battery test with the clock/compass/speedometer functions all set to the "NONE" condition, and I'm pleased to report that the batteries have held their charge! (Before turning these functions to "NONE," I was unable to get even 4 hours of battery life when the scope was in the static condition.) Tomorrow morning, bright and early, I'll turn on the clock function and begin sampling battery condition every two hours. If the batteries hold up with "clock" turned on, I'll then turn on "compass" and test it. I'll keep going and try to determine which of these three functions is causing the problem of rapid battery discharge. I'll keep everyone apprised of my findings.

Another shoutout to eyesofahunter for trying this approach and letting us know of his results!

I am not going to be at all surprised if it turns out the compass is a culprit. Mine NEVER read correctly, and was constantly searching, even when I was not moving.

He takes a bow and exits. I am glad it is working for you, I hope we are on to something. Mine finally gave out tonight after a week of use!! I hope ATN is following this discussion, even though we sometimes get off track I think the only way this system will be fixed is by listening to feed back from those that use it. The lab is great but there needs to be real use to work out the kinks.
Keep tinkering!!!!

I'm going to ask those who want to "explore" the code and script to open a separate thread as I am sure there will be some heavy technical talk which will get lost and or overpower the standard X-sight users in threads such as this.

Plus I don't want to be called into the Principal's office when you guys crack the code and develop apps that open Pandora's box. I mean hacking a phone or other device is one thing but a weapon system isn't something I want to read about - too much liability if Obsidian becomes self-aware.

Thanks fellas!

My apologies HuntTXHogs, I deleted it.

+1 eyesofahunter

On mine the only thing I have running is the clock and made sure it is set to manual not wifi. So its still draining battery life but like I said in one of my previous posts im still running the same batteries from when it was new. I might turn off the clock cause I really don't have any use for it then there should be no draw on the batteries at all.

At 0700 today I checked the batteries and they were fine! They've lasted 21 hours with everything turned off and/or set to "NONE." I just went in and set Compass to "BOTTOM," leaving Speedometer and Clock in the "NONE" condition, and will monitor the battery level every couple of hours. If I see no evidence of rapid drain, I'll change Speedometer to "BOTTOM," and monitor it. I'll post results as I get them.

Mikei, thank you for taking my big picture idea and taking it to the pixel level to try and root out this issue. Good work, and keep us posted.

Has anyone seen the new 3x? I am going to pick mine up next week...

At 0900 today, I checked the batteries and they were still at full charge. I just went in and turned the next function (Speedometer) on to "BOTTOM." I'll check battery level in a couple of hours and report back.

Right here, Cleric, from earlier in the thread.

About battery life, i did a test, hooked up a powerbank
to the usb-port and removed the AA batteries, scope still
powered on
Did some more testing and seems like the scope needs the AA
batteries to start up, it wount start without the AA inside,
and if the usb-port is connected at start, scope won't start up,
it's looking for usb-connection.
My scope is still running, with power from the powerbank,
no AA inside.

TomH, I am kinda leaning toward the Clock as being the cause of the problems, since I presume that it has to keep running to keep track of the time, as opposed to the Compass and Speedo, which, in the static situation, are just "idling." I may very well be wrong about this, and it sure won't be the first time!! Hopefully, by mid-afternoon, we'll have an answer.

At 1100, I checked the batteries and they have not lost any charge in two hours with the functions Clock and Speedometer turned on and placed in the "BOTTOM" condition. I turned on the final, Compass, function, and will check again after a couple of hours. "Logic" would have me think that, as suggested by TomH FW, the Compass function is the culprit in the premature battery drainage issue, at least on my scope. I'll check back in with you all once the scope gets a few more hours under its belt with all functions except WiFi and GPS turned back on.

Here we are, burning through our own batteries, conducting tests the manufacturer should've finished last year.

At 1400 I checked the batteries and they have not lost any charge! I'm really surprised, and bit confused as well! I had set Compass, Speedo, and Clock to the "BOTTOM" position 3 hours ago, and fully expected to see some serious battery drain when I checked it. I just turned all three functions to "TOP" to see if that will replicate the battery drain problem again. I can't figure out any obvious reason that the position on the DISPLAY screen, TOP as opposed to BOTTOM, would cause the issue. If I don't see any battery drain in a couple of hours, I'm totally stumped about what to test next. If any of you have any suggestions, please send 'em my way.