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Re: Which Caliber?
[Re: redraider99]
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12/29/14 02:14 AM
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Sell both rifles and get on gunbroker.com and find a Steyr model M professional with double triggers in a 30-06. Top with a leupold vari-XIII 2.5 x8, conetrol base and rings. Then hunt anything in the world except dangerous game.
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Re: Which Caliber?
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12/29/14 02:18 AM
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Dude. I'm just messing with you. Did you invent the 270? Do you get royalties from ammunition, components, and .277" barrels? Because you are awfully butt hurt over me poking you a bit about the 270.
I could give a damn if you were shooting and killing when I was a child. You have not got the trigger time nor the hours of study in this that I do. If you're gonna take that stance, and that attitude, toward me we can shoot for it. And I'll leave the 7 Rem Mag at home anf bring the 6.5 Creedmoor. Otherwise shove off a-hole.
If not we can get along. Its up to you.
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Re: Which Caliber?
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12/29/14 02:23 AM
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Re: Which Caliber?
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12/29/14 02:32 AM
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Dude. I'm just messing with you. Did you invent the 270? Do you get royalties from ammunition, components, and .277" barrels? Because you are awfully butt hurt over me poking you a bit about the 270.
I could give a damn if you were shooting and killing when I was a child. You have not got the trigger time nor the hours of study in this that I do. If you're gonna take that stance, and that attitude, toward me we can shoot for it. And I'll leave the 7 Rem Mag at home anf bring the 6.5 Creedmoor. Otherwise shove off a-hole.
If not we can get along. Its up to you. You started with the attitude. I don't mind being disagreed with. I do mind being condescended to. It's as simple as that.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Which Caliber?
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I have a browning 7mm and it's a pill to shoot
You gotta remember in a 7-8 lb rifle 7mm recoil is stiff, a .270 it's a cream puff.
Most hunters will be better served by a .270 than a 7mm. Most people don't shoot past 300 yards so any ballistic advantage to a 7 mm bullet being superior is moot Bought one when I was about 20. Rem. 700 stainless. Had every intention of making it my primary rifle. Killed quite a bit of stuff with it. Hated the "punch" of the recoil. Got rid of it. I now mostly shoot my .270 for mid-sized game. That said, my .300 Win. is much more pleasant to shoot and has more power to boot at the ranges I shoot. So I have never been fond of the 7 mag. YMMV. Numbers don't always tell the tale. Rifles are like women-each are different. And an 8 (or 20) pound sledge is not always better than a 6 pound sledge. Those that use sledges a lot know this. Those that read physics books may not. Well I might have to agree with you but the original question is what he could add to his armory next, and a 7 mm mag would overlap the 270 quite a bit. I don't like the 270...not anything personal just don't like it. Now I will say the 280 and 280 ack improved are my cup of tea...close to the 7 mag with the trimness of the 270,but with the bullet weight advantage of the 7mms. I will say if I were in his shoes I would choose a good fast 22 or 6mm...but I get to hunt a lot around here on my farm and my families ranch, and a 22-250 or my little blaser in a 6BR Norma is quite useful. I also said if he wants to shoot bigger animals a 375 would be a good selection 200-350 grain bullets makes a useful rifle. I always get a kick out of forums, in one chain the guy says "I am very recoil tolerant" then in another thread they talk about a "punchy" 7 or 300 mag... I started using recoil brakes a few years ago, but only have them on my 375 ultra, 375 WBY, and my 505 Gibbs...now that one is "punchy". Ed
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Re: Which Caliber?
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12/29/14 02:41 AM
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I have a browning 7mm and it's a pill to shoot
You gotta remember in a 7-8 lb rifle 7mm recoil is stiff, a .270 it's a cream puff.
Most hunters will be better served by a .270 than a 7mm. Most people don't shoot past 300 yards so any ballistic advantage to a 7 mm bullet being superior is moot Bought one when I was about 20. Rem. 700 stainless. Had every intention of making it my primary rifle. Killed quite a bit of stuff with it. Hated the "punch" of the recoil. Got rid of it. I now mostly shoot my .270 for mid-sized game. That said, my .300 Win. is much more pleasant to shoot and has more power to boot at the ranges I shoot. So I have never been fond of the 7 mag. YMMV. Numbers don't always tell the tale. Rifles are like women-each are different. And an 8 (or 20) pound sledge is not always better than a 6 pound sledge. Those that use sledges a lot know this. Those that read physics books may not. Well I might have to agree with you but the original question is what he could add to his armory next, and a 7 mm mag would overlap the 270 quite a bit. I don't like the 270...not anything personal just don't like it. Now I will say the 280 and 280 ack improved are my cup of tea...close to the 7 mag with the trimness of the 270,but with the bullet weight advantage of the 7mms. I will say if I were in his shoes I would choose a good fast 22 or 6mm...but I get to hunt a lot around here on my farm and my families ranch, and a 22-250 or my little blaser in a 6BR Norma is quite useful. I also said if he wants to shoot bigger animals a 375 would be a good selection 200-350 grain bullets makes a useful rifle. I always get a kick out of forums, in one chain the guy says "I am very recoil tolerant" then in another thread they talk about a "punchy" 7 or 300 mag... I started using recoil brakes a few years ago, but only have them on my 375 ultra, 375 WBY, and my 505 Gibbs...now that one is "punchy". Ed I am recoil tolerant. Doesn't mean I don't notice the differences between rifles. Also doesn't mean I won't opt for a rifle of the same (or larger) caliber that I perceive is more pleasant to shoot-as with my .300 Win. Could be for any number of reasons that I find it more pleasant (fit, weight, power burn rate, etc.) I feel much the same about my .338 Win Mag-very pleasant to shoot. I don't care to spend the time to analyze every jot-and-tittle factor that may be at work. Not every answer is in a book or chuckhawks.com. A rifle is a tool to me. A means to an end. When I find a tool I like that is right for the job I tend to use it.
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Re: Which Caliber?
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12/29/14 02:50 AM
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I have a browning 7mm and it's a pill to shoot
You gotta remember in a 7-8 lb rifle 7mm recoil is stiff, a .270 it's a cream puff.
Most hunters will be better served by a .270 than a 7mm. Most people don't shoot past 300 yards so any ballistic advantage to a 7 mm bullet being superior is moot Bought one when I was about 20. Rem. 700 stainless. Had every intention of making it my primary rifle. Killed quite a bit of stuff with it. Hated the "punch" of the recoil. Got rid of it. I now mostly shoot my .270 for mid-sized game. That said, my .300 Win. is much more pleasant to shoot and has more power to boot at the ranges I shoot. So I have never been fond of the 7 mag. YMMV. Numbers don't always tell the tale. Rifles are like women-each are different. And an 8 (or 20) pound sledge is not always better than a 6 pound sledge. Those that use sledges a lot know this. Those that read physics books may not. Well I might have to agree with you but the original question is what he could add to his armory next, and a 7 mm mag would overlap the 270 quite a bit. I don't like the 270...not anything personal just don't like it. Now I will say the 280 and 280 ack improved are my cup of tea...close to the 7 mag with the trimness of the 270,but with the bullet weight advantage of the 7mms. I will say if I were in his shoes I would choose a good fast 22 or 6mm...but I get to hunt a lot around here on my farm and my families ranch, and a 22-250 or my little blaser in a 6BR Norma is quite useful. I also said if he wants to shoot bigger animals a 375 would be a good selection 200-350 grain bullets makes a useful rifle. I always get a kick out of forums, in one chain the guy says "I am very recoil tolerant" then in another thread they talk about a "punchy" 7 or 300 mag... I started using recoil brakes a few years ago, but only have them on my 375 ultra, 375 WBY, and my 505 Gibbs...now that one is "punchy". Ed I am recoil tolerant. Doesn't mean I don't notice the differences between rifles. Also doesn't mean I won't opt for a rifle of the same (or larger) caliber that I perceive is more pleasant to shoot-as with my .300 Win. Could be for any number of reasons that I find it more pleasant (fit, weight, power burn rate, etc.) I feel much the same about my .338 Win Mag-very pleasant to shoot. I don't care to spend the time to analyze every jot-and-tittle factor that may be at work. A rifle is a tool to me. A means to an end. When I find a tool I like that is right for the job I tend to use it. Me to cowboy! I am a hopeless rifle enthusiast, I have, and have owned a lot of calibers, they are all a little different, and I enjoy The attributes each. True not all act the same..one of the most unpleasant rifles I shot was a TC encore in 45-70, and a weatherby MK5 in a 340...flat out vicious. I hope your hunts all go well, and you find your proper tool... Ed
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Re: Which Caliber?
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12/29/14 02:51 AM
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Dude. I'm just messing with you. Did you invent the 270? Do you get royalties from ammunition, components, and .277" barrels? Because you are awfully butt hurt over me poking you a bit about the 270.
I could give a damn if you were shooting and killing when I was a child. You have not got the trigger time nor the hours of study in this that I do. If you're gonna take that stance, and that attitude, toward me we can shoot for it. And I'll leave the 7 Rem Mag at home anf bring the 6.5 Creedmoor. Otherwise shove off a-hole.
If not we can get along. Its up to you. You started with the attitude. I don't mind being disagreed with. I do mind being condescended to. It's as simple as that. Reread this trail counselor. I did not attack you, nor the 270. It was just me stirring the pot, toungue and cheek. You took personal offense and then insulted me. I can let it go if you can.
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Re: Which Caliber?
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12/29/14 02:57 AM
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I never had it to start with. So, I guess I have. 
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Re: Which Caliber?
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12/29/14 02:59 AM
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This is settled science  Tikka T3 in 7mm-08 with a DNZ one-piece mount and a Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40. Or similar scope like a vx3 or better, make sure the scope is lite and has good glass. No Zeiss Tera. Yup. Got my wife a T3 in 7mm-08, after the stock swap and Nikon scope it's a shooter. Go with another 7mm, if you start hand loading you'll have the same caliber bullets albeit different weights. Softer recoil too.
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Re: Which Caliber?
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12/29/14 03:02 AM
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To answer the OP's question, I would get a .300 Win. Mag. Then sell the 7 mag and get a 6.5x55 or .260. 
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Re: Which Caliber?
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12/29/14 04:58 AM
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This is settled science  Tikka T3 in 7mm-08 with a DNZ one-piece mount and a Zeiss Conquest ^ Have this combo, though I recently replaced the Zeiss with a trijicon 3-9. Good go to, all around Texas game rifle that is lightweight and accurately packs a plenty of punch.
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Re: Which Caliber?
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12/29/14 04:26 PM
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Thank you everyone for their input. I forgot to mention that I already have an AR-15 and so with that said. Maybe I should just get a new upper and make it a 300 blackout. 
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Re: Which Caliber?
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Would you rather have 1 rifle with 2 uppers or 2 complete rifles?
It is far more important to be able to hit the target than it is to haggle over who makes a weapon or who pulls a trigger.
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Re: Which Caliber?
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Would you rather have 1 rifle with 2 uppers or 2 complete rifles? That is a good question. Not sure I know the answer to it. What is a good upper for a 300 blackout that won't break the bank? Something in the 500-750 price range? or am I going to have to go in for a grand? I was hoping to maybe spend extra on good glass.
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Re: Which Caliber?
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You can definitely get a good 300 blackout upper for under $750. Been looking at a bunch of them trying to decide then came across a Remington 700 with threaded barrel for $500 at WalMart and snagged it.
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Re: Which Caliber?
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Again same crappy performance as a 3030 and you already have that covered. Get something useful
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Re: Which Caliber?
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One each then throw in the tried and true .270 Yes sir and a .280 for desert! And... 22-250 7Mag .260 7mm-08 220 Swift .243 And many many more...
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Re: Which Caliber?
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These threads arguing about "which caliber" always amuse me.
He has a 7 Mag, a 30-30, and a .223 AR. He doesn't need anything bigger than 7 Mag unless he is going to hunt dangerous game.
Get a .243 or 7mm-08, it fills in nicely between what you already have and will be more pleasant to shoot while killing most anything you will hunt in Texas.
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Re: Which Caliber?
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Thanks Doc. I will look into a 243 since my daughter has started to show some interest in shooting(once we get her comfortable with shooting more).
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Re: Which Caliber?
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I am looking at getting a new hunting rifle. My 2 current rifles are a Winchester model 70 in 7mag and a Winchester 30-30. So now I am looking at getting a new caliber and I was looking at .300, 30-06 or .308. What are y'alls thoughts? 30-06 is a nobrainer. Start collecting all the other toys/calibers for the gun safe later.
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