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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: TxAggie10]
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12/29/14 04:51 PM
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Pope&Young
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Just think of the possibilities if he planted that open field with winter wheat
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: Pope&Young]
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12/29/14 04:53 PM
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stxranchman
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Just think of the possibilities if he planted that open field with winter wheat Just think of the thread that the guy who planted the wheat would post on THF about his neighbor across the fence hunting his wheat and deer on it.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
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12/29/14 05:22 PM
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tlk
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I swear, by some of the comments on here makes me think these guys want HOA type rules to cover what you can do on your own land. YEP! But then again, nobody wants HOA rules because they don't want to be told what they can do on their own land. They just want to make sure their neighbors can't do what they don't approve of them doing. what about just plain old common sense and respect for your neighbors? Ever notice when people complain most about a lack of common sense in when the common sense of another doesn't agree with what the speaker doesn't think is right? Ok then How about respecting your neighbor and treating them the way you would like to be treated "Common sense" is information or understandings held in common. Based on the discussion of this thread, the "correct" placement of that stand and feeder is not commonly held.
You can't fix stupid
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: stxranchman]
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12/29/14 05:26 PM
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schmellba99
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No it would not bother me since it is his land and his right to hunt it how he wants to. It would bother me more if he was facing his blind and feeder at my land or if I had a road down the fence. This. His land, not shooting into the neighboring property - there is nothing to complain about here.
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: stxranchman]
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12/29/14 05:27 PM
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Navasot
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Just think of the possibilities if he planted that open field with winter wheat Just think of the thread that the guy who planted the wheat would post on THF about his neighbor across the fence hunting his wheat and deer on it. Yeah id have that entire pasture as a plot!
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: wisco-hunter]
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12/29/14 05:32 PM
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schmellba99
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This question is for the hunters that this wouldn't bother, if you were hunting the stand in the field, would you be bothered if TxAggie10 set up a stand 20 yards to the left of the feeder...say 3 feet on his side of the fence and shoot the deer that are walking to the feeder that you have been supplying? I'm just wondering if there is any unwritten common courtesy in today's world or if most hunters go by "as long as its legal" who cares about courtesy. I guess this must be a flat bill era thing... My grandpa would hop out of his grave and slap the s#$% out of me if I did this to anyone. I bet your grandfather also didn't act like he owned the deer simply because he put a feeder up on his land. I also bet he had the attitude of "his land, his rules" and not "it's MY fenceline and he can't do what I don't approve of on HIS SIDE of that fenceline". It works both ways with the "common courtesy" and "ethics" thing.
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: TxAggie10]
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12/29/14 05:34 PM
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IDK but whatever you do - do not google blowdart + deer + testical.
I'm a terrible shot but I follow up with a grenade!
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: txbobcat]
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12/29/14 05:35 PM
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The reason for so many high fences. I disagree - the reason for so many high fences lies mostly with those high fencing and the prevailing attitude that if you feed deer, they are somehow your deer and you are somehow guaranteed a return on your investment. If more people would talk to each other and not have the attitude that you own wild game, or that horns are the end all of all things deer hunting, high fences would not be as much of an hot button topic as they are today. That won't eliminate the d-bags that day hunt on 20 acres and leach off of their neighbor's larger place, but it would reduce the attitude of "welp, just high fence it" that is unfortunately so common.
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: Pope&Young]
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12/29/14 05:45 PM
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Just think of the possibilities if he planted that open field with winter wheat This is exactly what I thought soon as I saw the pic
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: schmellba99]
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12/29/14 06:48 PM
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tlk
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This question is for the hunters that this wouldn't bother, if you were hunting the stand in the field, would you be bothered if TxAggie10 set up a stand 20 yards to the left of the feeder...say 3 feet on his side of the fence and shoot the deer that are walking to the feeder that you have been supplying? I'm just wondering if there is any unwritten common courtesy in today's world or if most hunters go by "as long as its legal" who cares about courtesy. I guess this must be a flat bill era thing... My grandpa would hop out of his grave and slap the s#$% out of me if I did this to anyone. I bet your grandfather also didn't act like he owned the deer simply because he put a feeder up on his land. I also bet he had the attitude of "his land, his rules" and not "it's MY fenceline and he can't do what I don't approve of on HIS SIDE of that fenceline". It works both ways with the "common courtesy" and "ethics" thing. It was my grandfather who taught me to treat neighbors with respect and like I would want to be treated. There are many things that are "legal" but still simply not the right thing to do to another person. Common respect and courtesy is a pretty hard thing to argue with but I am sure you will
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: schmellba99]
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12/29/14 07:42 PM
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wisco-hunter
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This question is for the hunters that this wouldn't bother, if you were hunting the stand in the field, would you be bothered if TxAggie10 set up a stand 20 yards to the left of the feeder...say 3 feet on his side of the fence and shoot the deer that are walking to the feeder that you have been supplying? I'm just wondering if there is any unwritten common courtesy in today's world or if most hunters go by "as long as its legal" who cares about courtesy. I guess this must be a flat bill era thing... My grandpa would hop out of his grave and slap the s#$% out of me if I did this to anyone. I bet your grandfather also didn't act like he owned the deer simply because he put a feeder up on his land. I also bet he had the attitude of "his land, his rules" and not "it's MY fenceline and he can't do what I don't approve of on HIS SIDE of that fenceline". It works both ways with the "common courtesy" and "ethics" thing. Is this your stand???
Why is it that every time I push #1 for english, I cannot understand the person on the other end???
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: TxAggie10]
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12/29/14 08:06 PM
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Double Naught Spy
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The reason we have laws is because people can't agree on what is supposedly common sense, integrity, courtesy, or what have you.
As for things being better in the good old days with grandfathers and such, those old farts got mad at their neighbors as well, complained that they did things wrong, etc. Invoking nostalgia for the good old days is just ice cream served over a helping of small pox.
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: tlk]
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12/29/14 08:14 PM
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schmellba99
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This question is for the hunters that this wouldn't bother, if you were hunting the stand in the field, would you be bothered if TxAggie10 set up a stand 20 yards to the left of the feeder...say 3 feet on his side of the fence and shoot the deer that are walking to the feeder that you have been supplying? I'm just wondering if there is any unwritten common courtesy in today's world or if most hunters go by "as long as its legal" who cares about courtesy. I guess this must be a flat bill era thing... My grandpa would hop out of his grave and slap the s#$% out of me if I did this to anyone. I bet your grandfather also didn't act like he owned the deer simply because he put a feeder up on his land. I also bet he had the attitude of "his land, his rules" and not "it's MY fenceline and he can't do what I don't approve of on HIS SIDE of that fenceline". It works both ways with the "common courtesy" and "ethics" thing. It was my grandfather who taught me to treat neighbors with respect and like I would want to be treated. There are many things that are "legal" but still simply not the right thing to do to another person. Common respect and courtesy is a pretty hard thing to argue with but I am sure you will Common respect and courtesy is, like anything else - highly subjective. I respect property rights and think that the guy that owns the land on the other side of the fence has a right to do what he wants within the confines of his property boundaries, especially if said activities does not endanger you or encroach on your private property rights. Setting a stand and feeder up to take advantage of the terrain on his side of the fence line, while it may be annoying to you, is not disrespectful or discourteous in of itself. Especially if he's shooting away from your fence. Now if you went and politely talked to him about it, expressing your concerns on safety, etc. and he told you to stick it where the sun doesn't shine, then you'd have an argument on disrespectful behavior. But the OP has made no mention of that aspect. What I find interesting is the idea that you should be able to dictate to your neighbor how, how much, when and what for they can use their own property. How about this scenario - instead of a feeder, the neighbor plants the field in alfalfa and winter wheat and in doing so the deer are not nearly as interested in your feeder and therefore spend more time on his side of the fence instead of eating your sweet corn at your feeder? Would he be the d-bag you want him to be in that scenario?
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: wisco-hunter]
#5506516
12/29/14 08:17 PM
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schmellba99
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This question is for the hunters that this wouldn't bother, if you were hunting the stand in the field, would you be bothered if TxAggie10 set up a stand 20 yards to the left of the feeder...say 3 feet on his side of the fence and shoot the deer that are walking to the feeder that you have been supplying? I'm just wondering if there is any unwritten common courtesy in today's world or if most hunters go by "as long as its legal" who cares about courtesy. I guess this must be a flat bill era thing... My grandpa would hop out of his grave and slap the s#$% out of me if I did this to anyone. I bet your grandfather also didn't act like he owned the deer simply because he put a feeder up on his land. I also bet he had the attitude of "his land, his rules" and not "it's MY fenceline and he can't do what I don't approve of on HIS SIDE of that fenceline". It works both ways with the "common courtesy" and "ethics" thing. Is this your stand??? Nope, I don't have a dog in the fight. I just get tired of the attitude that many seem to have with respect as to what they think their neighbors should be able to do on their side of the fence line. It generally seems to get lost in the bitching and moaning that a fence line has 2 owners and not just one, and I'm a huge believer in not having my neighbor be able to dictate what I can and cannot do on my own land (hypothetically speaking, because I unfortunately don't own any land).
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: schmellba99]
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12/29/14 08:55 PM
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tlk
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This question is for the hunters that this wouldn't bother, if you were hunting the stand in the field, would you be bothered if TxAggie10 set up a stand 20 yards to the left of the feeder...say 3 feet on his side of the fence and shoot the deer that are walking to the feeder that you have been supplying? I'm just wondering if there is any unwritten common courtesy in today's world or if most hunters go by "as long as its legal" who cares about courtesy. I guess this must be a flat bill era thing... My grandpa would hop out of his grave and slap the s#$% out of me if I did this to anyone. I bet your grandfather also didn't act like he owned the deer simply because he put a feeder up on his land. I also bet he had the attitude of "his land, his rules" and not "it's MY fenceline and he can't do what I don't approve of on HIS SIDE of that fenceline". It works both ways with the "common courtesy" and "ethics" thing. It was my grandfather who taught me to treat neighbors with respect and like I would want to be treated. There are many things that are "legal" but still simply not the right thing to do to another person. Common respect and courtesy is a pretty hard thing to argue with but I am sure you will Common respect and courtesy is, like anything else - highly subjective. I respect property rights and think that the guy that owns the land on the other side of the fence has a right to do what he wants within the confines of his property boundaries, especially if said activities does not endanger you or encroach on your private property rights. Setting a stand and feeder up to take advantage of the terrain on his side of the fence line, while it may be annoying to you, is not disrespectful or discourteous in of itself. Especially if he's shooting away from your fence. Now if you went and politely talked to him about it, expressing your concerns on safety, etc. and he told you to stick it where the sun doesn't shine, then you'd have an argument on disrespectful behavior. But the OP has made no mention of that aspect. What I find interesting is the idea that you should be able to dictate to your neighbor how, how much, when and what for they can use their own property. How about this scenario - instead of a feeder, the neighbor plants the field in alfalfa and winter wheat and in doing so the deer are not nearly as interested in your feeder and therefore spend more time on his side of the fence instead of eating your sweet corn at your feeder? Would he be the d-bag you want him to be in that scenario? Figures - you are arguing his right to do it - I am arguing that I would not do it out of respect for my neighbor - big difference. Again a person has a "right" to do a lot of things but it doesn't make it the right thing to do. It is amazing to have to argue with someone about being respectful of other people and being thoughtful of others -
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: Navasot]
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12/29/14 08:57 PM
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stxranchman
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Just think of the possibilities if he planted that open field with winter wheat Just think of the thread that the guy who planted the wheat would post on THF about his neighbor across the fence hunting his wheat and deer on it. Yeah id have that entire pasture as a plot! So you're THAT guy?
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: TxAggie10]
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12/29/14 09:01 PM
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rifleman
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I'm that guy. No feeder, just a plot and about 500# of corn scattered across it when I planned to hunt....with a stand looking like an air traffic control tower where I could shoot it all.
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: TxAggie10]
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12/29/14 09:06 PM
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stxranchman
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rifleman?
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: tlk]
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12/29/14 09:08 PM
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Figures - you are arguing his right to do it - I am arguing that I would not do it out of respect for my neighbor - big difference. Again a person has a "right" to do a lot of things but it doesn't make it the right thing to do. It is amazing to have to argue with someone about being respectful of other people and being thoughtful of others -
"My grandpa wouldn't do it", a feel good statement that doesn't hold water, your bucket is full of holes. The same crap went on years ago, as far back as you want to research. You can go to any county in Texas and look up legal property disputes and find where grandpas were arguing with neighbors as long as records have been kept. You can then add thousands of situations that never went to court to be settled. An example, I remember one dispute over weeds growing on the fence line, one was pissed at the other because he let the weeds grow on his since of the fence.
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: stxranchman]
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12/29/14 09:13 PM
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rifleman
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rifleman? That works!
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: TxAggie10]
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12/29/14 09:15 PM
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stxranchman
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You should be able air a few shots out from that one
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: stxranchman]
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12/29/14 09:18 PM
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: TxAggie10]
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12/29/14 09:19 PM
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As long as there were no Goats, Turkeys or Coons I would be okay with all of that set up..
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: dogcatcher]
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12/29/14 09:21 PM
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tlk
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Figures - you are arguing his right to do it - I am arguing that I would not do it out of respect for my neighbor - big difference. Again a person has a "right" to do a lot of things but it doesn't make it the right thing to do. It is amazing to have to argue with someone about being respectful of other people and being thoughtful of others -
"My grandpa wouldn't do it", a feel good statement that doesn't hold water, your bucket is full of holes. The same crap went on years ago, as far back as you want to research. You can go to any county in Texas and look up legal property disputes and find where grandpas were arguing with neighbors as long as records have been kept. You can then add thousands of situations that never went to court to be settled. An example, I remember one dispute over weeds growing on the fence line, one was pissed at the other because he let the weeds grow on his since of the fence. Who the hell said "my grandpa wouldn't do it?" I said my grandfather taught me to respect others - but you are right. Screw your neighbor -
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Re: Hunting the fence?
[Re: stxranchman]
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12/29/14 09:24 PM
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Payne
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rifleman? Oh my, I want one.
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