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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: JoeCowboy]
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12/01/14 08:51 PM
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I would have told him to go pound sand. That's lower than whale sh!t.
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: JoeCowboy]
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12/01/14 09:02 PM
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Really should have been yours. Did you get pictures of your dog with the bird? You with the bird? Did you get the band #? If so, then screw him. You have the honest memories and that can’t be taken from you. And what is it worth knowing you will never have to deal with that guy again? I have been lucky enough to shoot several banded ducks over the years but the two that stand out the most are: The first one. It sucks you won’t have it but go back to honest memories. And #2; Years ago I was hunting with a bunch of guys at my family’s place and I shot a banded Woody hen. One of the other guys shot one of the nicest Woody drakes I’ve ever seen and man they made a pretty pair. It took the other guy a few minutes to work up the courage, but he asked if he could have mine to have them mounted as a pair. I said sure. I left the band on but took the band info and called it in myself. I’ve been to his house a couple times and the mount is really nice and I hear from mutual friends that he still tells the real story behind it… most of the time.
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: JoeCowboy]
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12/01/14 09:13 PM
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And the world still turns.
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: JoeCowboy]
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12/01/14 09:15 PM
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: JoeCowboy]
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12/01/14 09:37 PM
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Sucks you gave the band away. What did Bob have to say in all this, and why didn't you tell Tom to get bent?
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: brazosboyt]
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12/01/14 09:58 PM
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If Tom thinks like that then I hate to know how he thinks on other situations. Proper etiquette is whoever shot the duck gets the band period! Even if the person never shot a duck, was a guest, did not pay a dime, borrowed the gun to hunt etc... you get the point. There is no other criteria that changes this etiquette. You shoot it, the band is yours. I have been on hunts were a newbie was on their first hunt and killed a banded bird. We praised them on the trophy. He really took a great moment for you and your dog and screwed it up. I can understand how you agreed to let him have it , but it was yours. You can take satisfaction in that 100%. X2. That guy quickly showed his true character. Just remember-it's just a piece of metal. If you can get the numbers you can get a duplicate certificate. You can then get an exact duplicate made by national band and tag for $50. I agree that the solo shooter gets it. 2x last year we shot banded birds that I was 99.9% sure I shot. Both times I had a hunter that had never gotten a band. They took em and I even played up the-you got this one. I wasn't even shooting at that one. I guess it's all about what drives you inside. Others happiness or your own. That was darn good of you Brazos!
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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12/01/14 10:31 PM
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I am not a duck hunter.
But why in the heck would anyone (hunter or guide) want a band off of a duck SOMEONE ELSE KILLED??
Makes zero sense. Just goes to show the downfall of hunting these days where it's all about the trophy-even to the point of ruining someone else's experience to get it. Yup, I was gonna say the exact same thing. Let alone the fact that he's clearly a douche, Why would he want a band off of a bird he didnt shoot? Thats a heck of a story for the grandkids... " Yea I got THIS band from another guys duck that he shot!"
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: Wisemd123]
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12/01/14 11:22 PM
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Not too late to try and get the band back. Maybe he is feeling a little guilt for being a dbag. it is just a stupid band, unless you shot the bird, then it is special. Maybe your buddy Bob can help Tom understand this.
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: Wisemd123]
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12/01/14 11:30 PM
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I am not a duck hunter.
But why in the heck would anyone (hunter or guide) want a band off of a duck SOMEONE ELSE KILLED??
Makes zero sense. Just goes to show the downfall of hunting these days where it's all about the trophy-even to the point of ruining someone else's experience to get it. Yup, I was gonna say the exact same thing. Let alone the fact that he's clearly a douche, Why would he want a band off of a bird he didnt shoot? Thats a heck of a story for the grandkids... " Yea I got THIS band from another guys duck that he shot!" The story will eventually change to that he shot the duck and it was his dog that retrieved it. If you have any doubts read the thread Stolen Valor in the Disabled Forum. If people will lie about heir military service, lying about a duck band is a piece of cake. 
Combat Infantryman, the ultimate hunter where the prey shoots back. _____________"Illegitimus non carborundum est"_______________
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: oilag]
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12/01/14 11:45 PM
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You got screwed. post his # and see how many texts he gets haha (kidding here). Hope the good lord blesses you and your pup with a double banded mallard sometime soon. I will shoot the double banded mallard for you and we can have a cointoss.  Hang on, that girl in her lil red dress, dang nugget
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: GigEmAggies]
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12/01/14 11:55 PM
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Sorry but I would have to agree with Tom.....I wouldn't have been a jerk about it but if it wasn't for him you wouldn't have shot the band....I can see i'm in the minority here.....with that said I have never shot a banded duck....been on hunts where two banded dove were shot....one of them was on my property (i did not shoot it) I was definitely cool with the guy that shot it keeping the band but he insisted I keep it....the other was not on my property I shot it and I offered it to the property owner who said I could have it....I guess I would have offered it to the Tom in hopes he would let me keep it i just heard tom was fired from his job and been put 25 yrs in state penn to depleting his boss retirement fund Oh well, karma is a biatch
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: JoeCowboy]
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12/02/14 12:22 AM
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Wow
I've gotta say I think I would of stood up a little bit more than you did. Sure it's over now, but the fact that you gave into Tom is just as bad. He's smiling now and probably really thinking he did the right thing....which is completely chitty.
On a different note, why didn't your buddy Bob give any input?
Tom was fully aware that when he brought a guest that there is a chance they will shoot birds.
What would he of said if you shot a bunch of coots? Bet he wouldn't of taken those from you.
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: JoeCowboy]
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12/02/14 12:33 AM
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Get a replica band and mount that bird! Nothing like your young dogs first greenhead.
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: LuckyDucker]
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12/02/14 01:51 AM
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Was he a guide or something? I've only heard of that kind of poop from guides...
Ain't no way I'm wearing a band on my lanyard that some other person clearly shot. You shoot it, it's your's. Even if my dog retrieved the bird, the band is your's, IMO.
Wish we knew his real name. I'd bet he never gets an invite from anyone else again... Had a guide do this to us this year. He didn't even acknowledge the band. The other guide who had been scouting came to help pick up and was setting up the birds for a picture and starting yelling in excitement. The guide whom we were hunting with said he saw it but didn't say anything. I am unsure if he did or not but it really ticked me off. The helper picked up hulls with 1 different color and we drew for it. First guy won and the guide was ticked off. It was hard not to come unleashed.
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: JoeCowboy]
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12/02/14 02:03 AM
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had it not had a band, I bet everyone would've agreed it was your bird. The rules dont change just because its sporting some jewelry!
Arise.Kill.Eat -Acts 10:13 I have read a bunch of stuff on the internet about Star Wars but that does not mean I can skin a deer with a light saber.
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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12/02/14 02:18 AM
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I am not a duck hunter.
But why in the heck would anyone (hunter or guide) want a band off of a duck SOMEONE ELSE KILLED??
Makes zero sense. Just goes to show the downfall of hunting these days where it's all about the trophy-even to the point of ruining someone else's experience to get it. The same reason people buy them on eBay. Having bands on your lanyard makes you a "real" duckhunter. Same reason a guy will spend 30k to shoot a 300" whitetail inside a high fence pen. I think they call it compensating?
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: JoeCowboy]
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12/02/14 02:25 AM
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I would have kept the bird, including feathers, guts, legs, head and any other items attached to the bird. If and when he threatened to leave me stranded....his assa would have been stranded. After me and "bob" got back to the ramp, "bob" could ride back out and pick the sumbitch up while I go home with a bird. Dirtbags like him deserve all punishment that you can give them.
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: LarryCopper]
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12/02/14 02:29 AM
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He was acting so inappropriately about it, it may have come to fists if I didn't concede Understood, you did what you thought you had to do. But it ain't right. Whoever pulled the trigger gets the band. If a group shoot and you don't know who shot it, draw straws or something. This. I would not want a band on my lanyard from a bird I did not shoot. If more than one of us fired and someone else thinks they shot it, I don't want it. IMO it would be like mounting a deer that you didn't shoot. If there was no debate as to you shooting it, it is your band. I don't care if he flew you there in his private jet.
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: JoeCowboy]
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12/02/14 02:34 AM
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Tom turned a moment to be a stand up good guy into a moment that marked him forever. That band will be thrown in a drawer and forgotten about, there is no pride for him. If he says there is, he is lying about it. He will feel like the turd he is, ever time he sees that band for the rest of his life. Smile  and enjoy the moment. You have a great story to tell about a great first retrieve and a banded duck. He still ain't got squat.
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: txshntr]
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12/02/14 05:43 AM
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Tom needed a throat punch...and so did your friend for being such a nancy and not speaking up Yep, Tom is a giant Richard, and Bob pulled a puss move for not getting your back. I would never expect the band on a duck I didn't kill and I never would let that happen to a friend of mine either. Smh.
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: JoeCowboy]
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12/02/14 06:24 AM
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So now wearing 15 wonderbread bands around your neck a la jeff foyles makes you a hero?
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: JoeCowboy]
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12/02/14 05:09 PM
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The band wouldve just ended up in the lake and if it came to fists he wouldve to.
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: JoeCowboy]
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12/02/14 05:39 PM
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I would have laughed at him.
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: Fooshman]
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12/02/14 06:14 PM
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I would have laughed at him. best answer
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Re: Duck Band Etiquette
[Re: Ben Lilly]
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12/02/14 07:36 PM
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I would have laughed at him. best answer There was some definite disbleive about him carrying on the way he was. My bud did have my back a little bit, I highly doubt he'll ever hunt with that guy again either.
"Never trust any man until you've seen him shoot at something dangerous, or that he wants really badly, at 50 yards or under....The short distance uncovers what's inside of him. The worthless ones will always miss . . . " E. Hemingway
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