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130lb pig vs. 17hmr
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09/14/14 03:19 AM
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tx hunter
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Just took this guy about 45 min ago. Was walkin to stand to do some varmint hunting and saw him goin to town around one of my feeders. Hit him right below his left ear. 17 gr. vmax dropped him right there. I really didn't think a 17 would have enough juice to drop a hog. I was wrong. It's all about shot placement. Savage 93r17btvs at 90yds. 
Last edited by tx hunter; 09/14/14 03:29 AM.
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: tx hunter]
#5305513
09/14/14 03:50 AM
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CitySlickerHunter
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"I can't be over gunned because the animal can't be over dead"-Elmer Keith 10/30/2012 I VOTED for The American
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: tx hunter]
#5305687
09/14/14 12:46 PM
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Double Naught Spy
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Shot placement, plus trajectory and penetration. On top of that, with a young hog, softer bones.
At 90 yards, you are looking about 1950 fps and 150 ft lbs (assuming 24" barrel, less for shorter barrel). That ain't much.
It all turned out well, but if you didn't think it would do the job, then why did you shoot the pig with it?
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
#5305827
09/14/14 03:08 PM
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tx hunter
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if you didn't think it would do the job, then why did you shoot the pig with it? Never gonna know if you don't try. I just had to see if the 17 could do it. I had some faith, but not a lot of faith.
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: tx hunter]
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09/14/14 05:29 PM
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1860.colt
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 take it ya never been ta a slaughter house 
i'm postaddic
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: 1860.colt]
#5306138
09/14/14 06:59 PM
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tx hunter
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 take it ya never been ta a slaughter house There's probably some difference between point blank range and 100yds  Point is it's freakin cool that rimfire $@?!ed up a hog like that
Last edited by tx hunter; 09/14/14 07:00 PM.
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
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09/14/14 08:01 PM
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Steve
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Shot placement, plus trajectory and penetration. On top of that, with a young hog, softer bones.
At 90 yards, you are looking about 1950 fps and 150 ft lbs (assuming 24" barrel, less for shorter barrel). That ain't much.
It all turned out well, but if you didn't think it would do the job, then why did you shoot the pig with it? Thank you, it needed to be said. If'n you can run the numbers through a ballistics calculator, you CAN know without trying. And you would have known that the HMR would have BARELY enough steam to do the job at that range. It worked this time, so yippee for that. Slaughter house? Sticking the muzzle up against an animals temple and shooting at distance are MILES apart from each other. Comparing apples to torque wrenches at best. Chupa
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: tx hunter]
#5306299
09/14/14 08:33 PM
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T Bone
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It's a freaking pig.. I'd have shot it with a slingshot if that's all I had...
I really hate to do what I am about to do, because it will be very painful for you.
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: tx hunter]
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09/14/14 10:21 PM
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bigjoe8565
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The OP didn't go hunting pigs with a .17 caliber. He was varmint hunting and the opportunity presented itself so he took the shot. The 17 wouldn't be my choice for pigs either, but I would have done the something as the OP.
Good shooting.
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: tx hunter]
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09/14/14 10:22 PM
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1860.colt
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 take it ya never been ta a slaughter house There's probably some difference between point blank range and 100yds  Point is it's freakin cool that rimfire $@?!ed up a hog like that  good point  their is a difference between point blank & 100yrds 
i'm postaddic
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
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09/14/14 10:36 PM
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1860.colt
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Shot placement, plus trajectory and penetration. On top of that, with a young hog, softer bones.
At 90 yards, you are looking about 1950 fps and 150 ft lbs (assuming 24" barrel, less for shorter barrel). That ain't much.
It all turned out well, but if you didn't think it would do the job, then why did you shoot the pig with it? Thank you, it needed to be said. If'n you can run the numbers through a ballistics calculator, you CAN know without trying. And you would have known that the HMR would have BARELY enough steam to do the job at that range. It worked this time, so yippee for that. Slaughter house? Sticking the muzzle up against an animals temple and shooting at distance are MILES apart from each other. Comparing apples to torque wrenches at best. Chupa Ya they gotten a lot more humain about killing. yes, i know its just a pig. 
i'm postaddic
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: 1860.colt]
#5306546
09/14/14 10:54 PM
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pdog2062
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It's a feral pig, does it matter if dies now or an hour later?
Y,all hang on I'm gonna drive closer
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: bigjoe8565]
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09/14/14 10:54 PM
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Steve
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Steve
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The OP didn't go hunting pigs with a .17 caliber. He was varmint hunting and the opportunity presented itself so he took the shot. The 17 wouldn't be my choice for pigs either, but I would have done the something as the OP.
Good shooting. I was speaking to the "Don't know till you try" comment. As far as "It's just a "X"...", That's just a justification for people to do what they know in their heart to be wrong. Chupa
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: pdog2062]
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09/14/14 10:56 PM
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Steve
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Steve
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It's a feral pig, does it matter if dies now or an hour later? To an ethical hunter it does. Chupa
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: tx hunter]
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09/14/14 11:01 PM
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unclekeith75
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Not shooting it would have been wrong!
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
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09/14/14 11:06 PM
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pdog2062
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There is a difference between hunting and eliminating an animal as destructive as feral hogs.I will use whatever I have handy to kill them,be it a rim fire or center fire.The bottom line is to eliminate them.
Y,all hang on I'm gonna drive closer
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: tx hunter]
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09/14/14 11:10 PM
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Steve
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That's YOUR personal ethics (which suck in my opinion), everything I shoot at deserves a swift death and my utmost effort to accommodate that. That's how I do things and anyone who hunts with me will do the same or be shown the gate.
Chupa
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: tx hunter]
#5306599
09/14/14 11:18 PM
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unclekeith75
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So you shoot everything in the head?
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: unclekeith75]
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09/14/14 11:34 PM
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Steve
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So you shoot everything in the head? Why would I? I want to know at what point in any of my posts did I hint or insinuate that? Twisting a conversation to suit your argument only proves that you have no evidence to support your ethics or lack thereof. Once again "It's just an X..." is nothing more than justification to do what you already know is wrong. Chupa
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: tx hunter]
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09/14/14 11:45 PM
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BrownBagSpecial
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Who cares its a hog!! If he ran off and died in a creek bottom and fed the yotes who cares.. Good job buddy!! I shot a boar bout 300#Friday night at about 35 yards with my hmr bc that's all I had my brush gun was n the back seat yeah he ran off do I care? Nope..one less pig eating my deer corn
BrownBagSpecial!
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: tx hunter]
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09/14/14 11:49 PM
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unclekeith75
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Tell that to people in Africa who hunt with spears!
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: unclekeith75]
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09/14/14 11:58 PM
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Steve
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Tell that to people in Africa who hunt with spears! And the price of eggs in China is? Irrelevant. You don't think that African Spear hunters don't do EVERYTHING within their means to promote a swift death of their prey? Just how far do you think they would prefer their tracking to be? A mile? 2 miles? 10 miles? Or a couple hundred yards? Keep twisting the conversation, you're proving my point for me. Chupa
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Re: 130lb pig vs. 17hmr
[Re: tx hunter]
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09/15/14 12:00 AM
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unclekeith75
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Ok I'll quit don't worry my ethics are intact just trying to get your goat! Chupa but there's a reason you can shoot a hog with just about anything in Texas .
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