The T-75 mounted on my 556s in front of the 4X-32mm ACOG TA02 really left allot to be desired in the way of FOV as it was less than half that of my T-70s/ACOGs FOV. For my 556mms, the T-70/ACOG is still my preferred thermal weapon scope setup, it is perfect, powerful, lightweight, quick action, easy to use, and deadly.

This powerful long range FLIR T-75 is way better off on my 7.62mms than my 5.56mms, you cannot even take advantage of a long range thermal scope with the 5.56mm caliber as it's lethal kill zone stops about where the T-75 really comes into its own, ie out past 250 yards.

It looks nice mounted on the 7.62mms and works extremely well with my ELCAN 1.5-6X-42mm scopes with the 7.62mm NATO BDC reticules, in fact it works so nice for me that I would not want any other scope for my hunting purposes.

Basically, the Elcan flips from 1.5X to 6X and back instantly and easily, while the T-75 Thermal comes on in 1X unity mode and also has 2X and 4X digital magnification.

This great feature of the Elcan allows me to use the 1.5X for a WFOV about the same as my T-70/ACOG, which is highly appreciated for my kind of swamp hunting. Also, turning on the T-75 internal digital magnification allows me to view through the ocular at either 1.5X (unity), 3.0X (2X digital), or 6X (2X digital).

And for long range, which this thing is specifically designed for, at 6X with the Elcan the FOV is less, but I am reaching much further out in complete clarity. Doubling the T-75 digital magnification to 2X gives me through the ocular 12 power and 4X digital gives me 24X power. That is just incredible and targeting a coyote at 1/4 or a hog at 600 yards just got simple.













The other dynomite feature of the FLIR T-75 Long Range Thermal Weapon Sight is that it is the top of the line of it's kissing cousins, the FLIR M-18 RECON, and the FLIR T-70 Short Ranger Thermal Weapon Sight and each of these incredible instruments works exactly the same, switching over from one to the other is a total no brainer as they are all basically the same platform. Since I have all of these kits, it is super simple to use anyone of them....

Okay, here are a couple of representative thermal pics from the FLIR T-75 taken as small snapshots out of the thermal video stream from the unit at night.

Conditions were terrible, worst possible thermal conditions for any kind of emissivity, ambient temperature 84*F, 100% humindity in thick air after a thunderstorm.

Remember, these low res pics are coming out of the FLIR t-75 thermal camera at either 1X, 2X digital, or 4X digital.

I am looking at these same scenes at either 6X, 12X, or 24X through the ocular of the Elcan scope, so basically everything is 6X larger and enhanced from what you view in these pics.

Coon @ 175 yards, I am seeing him 6X this:




Coon @ 175 yards, I am seeing him at 12X this and he fills the entire ocular view like I am sitting right on top of him:




Coon @ 175 yards, I am seeing him at 24X and he is larger than the ocular view, crosshairs on his eyeball:




Now this was pretty interesting and simply amazing, I was out on a powerline clear cut that is two miles long and previously mowed with my bush hog.

Each telephone pole is 120 yards apart from the other.

I am sitting in the UTV watching the FLIR M-324XP Pan/Tilt thermal camera on the LCD TV when I pick up some thermal signature out almost a half mile down the line,

Turn on the T-75 and at 1X unity with the Elcan behind it, I can clearly see a boar hog at 550 yards without a problem!

Boar Hog @ 550 yards, remember I am view this at 6X what you see here:




Now I turn on the T-75 to 2X digital magnification and instantly I am on top of the boar at 12X ocular and could easily take a precise shot on him:





Flip the FLIR T-75 to 4X internal digital and suddenly I am seeing him at 24X though the ocular and he covers the entire view as if I am sitting on top of him:




I did not have my tripod with me and the grass was too tall for a bipod, so I started walking towards him to try to close down the distance some for a good shot.

It was a LOONNGG walk, five minutes later I am laying down trying to get a bead on him when he walks into the brush and disappears.


This was his photo on the game cam that I picked up a couple of weeks ago and have been stalking him since then:





The FLIR T-75 is one bleep of a powerful bleep bleeping awesome Long Range Thermal Rifle Scope!

As far as actual scope magnification goes, the T-75 will handle an 8X scope on 1X digital zoom without any pixelation, pixelation is still remarkably acceptable at 12X.

However, having a scope of 8X and above would severely limit your FOV even at 1X, so if you are banging steel on a range, yes it would be good to use a high power scope, if you are out in the middle of nowhere at night banging hogs and dogs, NO.

In fact, the ELCAN Specter Dr 1.25X-6X-42mm that I am using are virtually perfect for my hunting applications, as I can quickly and easily flip between 1.5X and 6X.

At 1.5X, the FOV and functionally basically duplicates my fantastic 4xACOG/T-70 in providing me a WFOV and bumping up the digital zoom to 2X and 4X makes it zoom in very nicely, this pretty much covers and exceeds ALL the usefullness of the ACOG/T-70 with the Elcan on 1.5X.

With the Elcan on 6X, it is a completely different story, you have much less (less than 1/2) the FOV of the ACOG/T-70 on 1X, but a beautiful sharp 6X magnified view. And with the T-75 digital zoom on 2X you have an awesome 12X ocular view with acceptable pixelation that puts you right there on top of your target.

Plus, with the T-75 on 4X digital zoom you have 24X ocular zoom for taking eyeball shots.

Anything over 6X is going to require a tripod or some sort of dedicated rest to be able to make any kind of shot possible, however with the proper shooter and gear, basically any kind of night shot is possible with this fantastically powerful FLIR T-75 long range thermal weapon scope.

Forget using 556 though, this scope goes way beyond that cartridge capability.

If only there were someway to record what the ocular sees, of course getting a camera and your eyeball all in place to take and record a shot is impossible.

Thanks for the update, the original poster is putting together a 7mm08 rifle so plenty of punch vs 556 so this all continues to relate to the original question.

As always Skypup, I'm extremely jealous of your gear and setup for hunting.

I do have an I-Phone camera attachment for my ACOG behind the FLIR T-75 through which I could take photos/videos of 4X, 8X, and 16X through the entire unit so you would be seeing what I actually am seeing, but I do not have an attachment for the Elcan, it has a larger diameter ocular lens than the ACOG does.

Hey y'all

I'd like to mount whatever Thermal Optic I would need to do a 1,000 yard HOG!! WOOHOOO!

Serious, my current 260AI with a 140 gr. 6.5mm starting out at 3,067fps only needs 23.8MOA to get to 1,000 yards!

Velocity remaining= 1,633 fps

K.E. remaining = 830 ft/lbs

btw...I am really enjoying this thread. SERIOUS!

[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d0nBwN31z-U[/video]

One Happy Camper's FLIR Thermal Collection!

Hey THF'ers -

I just want to say that what you are reading in this thread shouldn't be taken lightly.

The original poster builds professional rifles that provide users with long range shooting capability.

The weapon sights being discussed are manufactured to exacting tolerances to support the capability of long distance shooting and/or they are military grade sights which have a proven track record.

As for the shooter - one of the key variables in the equation and the primary decider of where to shoot and what is deemed safe.

I hope that readers of this thread will comprehend that shooting live animals at extreme distance can be a sensitive subject for some hunters, day or night, and it isn't my intent to encourage or discourage any hunter from what they feel is their personal ability to make clean and ethical kills. Respect for the animal and respect amongst hunters are fundamental principals of hunting and shooting sports so lets not turn this thread into a platform for judgment or chiding of others rather lets maintain focus on the topic at hand which is long range hunting setups built to carry out a very specific purpose in qualified hands.

With that said I truly believe that Skypup and ArchersParadox know what they are doing and they are using, or intend to use, the appropriate equipment to demonstrate that long range hunting at night is possible. Goodluck gentlemen in your quest to bag a hog at the distances mentioned!!!

As for the casual observer(s), myself included!

I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH, be safe and do your homework via aerial maps to check areas beyond and adjacent to your targets and hunting areas if you intend to use or test equipment at long range at night.

Like you hear the pros say all the time, it is probably best if "YOU DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME".

HTXH

Sky pup, you have a mega-jealousy inducing set of NV equipment there! Don't wanna know how much all that cost (and don't say it was free either ).

HTxH, you are spot on with your last post. Even though I can see something doesn't mean I could or should try to shoot it. Bad scenario of wounding an animal can turn to a worst case scenario of throwing lead way down range and hitting something far worse than an animal.

I too would love to see what kind of detail is visible through the ocular when mag'd up real high with these scopes. Are we talking ability to count hairs on a hog at 800 yards or are we talking the ability to see a heat signature that is aist certainly a hog at 800? Enjoying this thread and what technology is out there

I was out on the powerline grade out back tonight hanging out in the middle of a huge thunderstorm after dark with lightning and heavy rain in massive quantities...water gauge had 4 inches when I pulled back up to the log cabin.

Spotted a sounder group while sitting in the UTV watching the FLIR M-324 HD LCD inside the cockpit about 3/4 mile down the road rooting.

Turned on the engine and the Larson Electronics Red Led blaster headlamp and slowly made it down to the third telephone pole from the hogs, poles are 120 yards apart, so about 325-350 yards.

It was about 85*, 110% humidity, teaming rain and when I turned on the T-75 it looked like I was sitting right on top of them!

First 7.62mm 130 grain Barnes TSX shot killed this sow and then I hit two more, it was raining so hard that I only had time to pick up the sow and bring her back with me, will go out and get the other two tomorrow morning.

Both thermals worked excellent in the rain, not a problem as the hogs all stood out like a sore thumb. Also turned on the miniDVR to video tape the hogs going down so will work on that later....

Here are a couple of representative low res snap shots from the FLIR T-75 thermal from 300+ yards out, I am seeing this at 6X through the ocular:

Here is the video from the three hog shoot out, unfortunately the video connection died the second I pulled the trigger, but you can see the FLIR T-75 thermal response at 300 plus yards up until then at 1X, 2X, and 4X in the pouring down rain at 84*F, remember, I am seeing what you see in the video at 6X through the Elcan ocular:

http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/FLIR%20T75/T75%20Sow/T75%20Sow.mp4

12MB MP4 file so will play on Mac, IPad, or PC...

Some wild boar hogs with the FLIRONE at night:

The FLIR one colorization of pink on pigs somehow makes me really hunger for BACON!

COPY THAT!

After 26 years of reloading, I reckon I have figured a thing or 2! One thing is for certain to go from a 1/2MOA rifle to a 1/4MOA rifle is strictly in the consistency of your reloads.....AND several fastidious steps are necessary, NO, it's not for everyone, and most people probably can not shoot any better nor judge the wind within 1/2MOA.

But, the challenges are there...and if y'all do your homework can be accomplished!

Excellent post ArchersParadox!

Thank 'ya!

The cases are numbered with a sharpie represent 0.001" of an inch.

I seat all of my bullets in a 2 step process using a micrometer seating die.

I seat the bullets "long", that is the COL cartridge overall length is 0.009" too long.

On the average the variance of the bullet's ogive [that's the curved radius for lack of more technical terms!] can vary the COL by as much as 0.005"

So, once I have seated all of the bullets the first time, I use a bullet comparator gauge and measure with my calipers each bullet's COL.

Segregate them....as you can see they typically fall into your standard "bell curve" sorta like test scores!!

Then for the final seat, I just adjust my micrometer seating die to the desired 0.001" readings...

Honestly these reloads are intended for our Ohio groundhogs....kill zone is about a 4" circle and shots can range out to 1,000 yards!

Now my Hog reloads...only have to be MOH [minute of Hog]..lol

and at ranges less than 100 yards at night!

However, I would take up the challenge for a long range thermal hog kill..heck yeah!!! in a heartbeat!!

Hey fellas..newbie mistake here...I didn't realize y'all had a reloading sub forum!!

I really wish it was not August with 100% humidity and 85+F temps at night so I could get some excellent video our of this powerful FLIR T-75 thermal long range scope.

I shot two hogs on the powerline with the SIG 716 7.62mm @ 250 yards and175 yards the night before last about 11PM.

In this video the long range one is already Lights Out while the closer one I shoot here is digging and rooting out a 3'X5' hole oblivious to me about to pull the trigger on him in the dark drizzling humid hot rainy night.

It is an MP4 video about 54MB so will work on Mac, IPad, or PC, I am seeing whatever you see in the video @ 6X though an Elcan scope:


http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Visi...0Hog%20Kill.mp4

Enjoy!

Thom -

Good video, time to help us out with what we are seeing on the base image without zoom activated.

LR: Native magnification is optimized for FOV to compliment Rifle Combat Optic (RCO)

So based on the video the hog in the near field of view is 175 yards, spaced almost to the next post is the 250 yard (dead hog). So if the posts are approx. spaced 75 yards apart, as you watch the video it gives the appearance that you are positioned at the 100 yard post BUT that is the deception of Long Range Clip-ons, isn't it.

The T-75 is not a 1x optic, but I don't find a native magnification specification, what would be your guess?

Also if your posts are spaced 75 yards apart that is going to be 7 ish more posts down the powerline there for the 800 yard killshot. That'll be a wee-tiny spec on the video out file when you take a shot on the 800 yard hog. Can you situate a monocular at 50 yards away from the bait site to capture the impact on target, not only would it be effen-cool but it would give a good indication of delay to impact.

If you can pull this off by end of September I might name my next Boy - Skypup

It is difficult to produce good thermal images during the humid summer nights, the powerline poles are approximately 125 yards apart ( I laser ranged them with a Leopold laser range finder and found them to vary between 118 and 135 yards apart).

The FLIR T-75 has 1X as unity if I was using it as a Standalone Thermal Weapon Scope, it also has 2X and 4X digital magnifications, so as a StandAlone Thermal Weapon Scope it functions at 1X, 2X, and 4X.

As a Clip-On thermal weapon scope in front of my Elcan Specter DR 1.5-6X-42mm scope it functions as either 1.5X, 3.0X, 6.0X, 12.0X, and 24.0X.

I have no problems detecting, seeing, IDing, and targeting a hog @ 600 yards at night in the thick soupy summer nights, I am certain I will have ZERO problems detecting and seeing, IDing and targeting a hog at 800 yards during the cooler nights of fall, winter, and spring with the FLIR T-75 Long Range Thermal Weapon Scope.

Okay so I figured wrong, see that is where these threads are educational, I assumed with the front lens that the T-75 has (looks like a magnified lens) that native magnification would be more than 1x.

Because the video you posted is off the video out port it doesn't have any zoom unless you engage it and then it shows on the bottom of the video.

So that said, then you were shooting from the next post in series on the power line ?

Also did you hit the post with your first shot at 1:44 seconds?

I was teaching a novice how to shot the 7.62mm with the FLIR T-75 on top of it, we were laying down on top of a stand built into the top of his pickup truck, the rifle was on my Harris bipod rest and I was trying to teach him how to use the FLIR after I demonstrated how easy it was for me to shoot the first hog out 250 yards myself.

He did not know what he was doing at all, I had to set the rifle up for him, he did not even know where the safety was? He is a deep sea charter boat captain and had never used a thermal rifle scope before and did not know what he was doing, I had to talk him through the entire process.

His first suppressed shot missed the hog and I told him to hold the center cross-hair dot on his shoulder as I have this rifle zeroed in at 200 yards.

It has a Geissele trigger that is about 1 pound pull and he accidentally squeezed off to soon when he first touched the trigger.

I told him NOT to touch the trigger until he was prepared to shoot.

After telling him to aim at upper shoulder, he did, and bullet penetrated upper shoulder DRT with massive destruction from the 3,000 fps 130 grain Barnes TSX handload......

We had a severe thunderstorm last night from 5-8:30PM that dumped two inches of rain with lots and lots of lightning and thunder right on top of us.

Went out in the UTV to sit on the power line road about 9PM as it was still raining moderately and everything was muddied out on the road out there.

Was sitting in the rain reading a book story on my I Phone with the FLIR M-324 pointed down the power line giving me a good view in the rain of a couple of hundred yards in the mono-thermal environment. Mosquitoes were extremely thick and without the ThermaCell on there is no way I could have just parked there.

Still some occasional lightning here and there and moderate to drizzling rain the entire time with gusts of wind get me wet at times. Just sate quietly reading with the FLIR covering the open area on the power line.

About 10PM I look up at the HD LCD monitor and could see what appeared to be a loaner boar hog down rooting in the open about 250 yards down the line.

Turned on the FLIR T-75 Long Range Thermal scope and sure enough, it was a big boar! Turned on the video and got everything going while sitting in the drivers seat with the SIG 716 7.62mm pointed out over the steering wheel.

Took one suppressed shot and WHACK, you could hear the 7.62mm 130 grain 3,000fps slug hit him like a ton of bricks, he collapsed and did a 180* turn to head for the woods but apparently was suffering from severe spinal CNS problems as he could not stand and only crawl. Shot again and missed while he was low to the ground crawling, shot again and hit him WHACK, he was not going anywhere.

Drove down to him and got out and was surprised to see how large this loner boar hog was, intact with nutz, he was a real fighter and had two noticeable wounds on his body, his shield was over an inch thick from all the fights he had been in.

Was able to get him home and dressed out over 225 pounds of meat!

Thermal video turned out real good too for being shot in pouring down rain, will work on that this weekend....the FLIR T-75 is a superb Long Rang Thermal Night Scope!