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Re: camp vs. official scores [Re: stxranchman] #5204376 07/17/14 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman

Should have tried to score this buck. I considered my self lucky to be under 2" on my score than what the official B&C scorer who scored it for TBGA got. You should have seen the look on his face when I showed up for him to score this. The "official" deer contest score was 5" or 6" more than mine. Deer contest scores always seem to be high IME since they have nothing but upside for having more deer for people to look at on their contest pages. Some are closer to actual scores than others also.





Damn impressive to get that close. Those blades would throw me for one heck of a loop and I would have been like that fella you mentioned earlier...sitting there for 20 minutes trying to decide which one was the browtine


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It tastes like victory!

loser8 Well then tells us about it bolt


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Re: camp vs. official scores [Re: txshntr] #5204382 07/17/14 12:04 AM
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Should have tried to score this buck. I considered my self lucky to be under 2" on my score than what the official B&C scorer who scored it for TBGA got. You should have seen the look on his face when I showed up for him to score this. The "official" deer contest score was 5" or 6" more than mine. Deer contest scores always seem to be high IME since they have nothing but upside for having more deer for people to look at on their contest pages. Some are closer to actual scores than others also.





Damn impressive to get that close. Those blades would throw me for one heck of a loop and I would have been like that fella you mentioned earlier...sitting there for 20 minutes trying to decide which one was the browtine

You would be shocked at what the score was actually.


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[quote=txshntr][quote=stxranchman]Even in the perfect world of B&C scorers where they are trained to be accurate and the same you still can get a variance in final scores. There are still some official scorers that were known for being a bit more lenient on their final scores than others.


Very true. There are some deer that have to go to a "committee" before the "official score" is entered in the books.

Should have tried to score this buck. I considered my self lucky to be under 2" on my score than what the official B&C scorer who scored it for TBGA got. You should have seen the look on his face when I showed up for him to score this. The "official" deer contest score was 5" or 6" more than mine. Deer contest scores always seem to be high IME since they have nothing but upside for having more deer for people to look at on their contest pages. Some are closer to actual scores than others also.





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If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
Re: camp vs. official scores [Re: stxranchman] #5204386 07/17/14 12:05 AM
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Should have tried to score this buck. I considered my self lucky to be under 2" on my score than what the official B&C scorer who scored it for TBGA got. You should have seen the look on his face when I showed up for him to score this. The "official" deer contest score was 5" or 6" more than mine. Deer contest scores always seem to be high IME since they have nothing but upside for having more deer for people to look at on their contest pages. Some are closer to actual scores than others also.





Damn impressive to get that close. Those blades would throw me for one heck of a loop and I would have been like that fella you mentioned earlier...sitting there for 20 minutes trying to decide which one was the browtine

You would be shocked at what the score was actually.


167"?


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Re: camp vs. official scores [Re: stxranchman] #5204392 07/17/14 12:07 AM
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It tastes like victory!

loser8 Well then tells us about it bolt


74 days....


Originally Posted By: cameron00
If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
Re: camp vs. official scores [Re: jshouse] #5204394 07/17/14 12:07 AM
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[quote=txshntr][quote=stxranchman]Even in the perfect world of B&C scorers where they are trained to be accurate and the same you still can get a variance in final scores. There are still some official scorers that were known for being a bit more lenient on their final scores than others.


Very true. There are some deer that have to go to a "committee" before the "official score" is entered in the books.

Should have tried to score this buck. I considered my self lucky to be under 2" on my score than what the official B&C scorer who scored it for TBGA got. You should have seen the look on his face when I showed up for him to score this. The "official" deer contest score was 5" or 6" more than mine. Deer contest scores always seem to be high IME since they have nothing but upside for having more deer for people to look at on their contest pages. Some are closer to actual scores than others also.





You hit'm with the truck?

He was shot with .300 RUM and he field dressed 208. Shooter did not want to have to track him so he dropped him in his tracks eating corn in the road. Then had trouble loading him by himself.


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Should have tried to score this buck. I considered my self lucky to be under 2" on my score than what the official B&C scorer who scored it for TBGA got. You should have seen the look on his face when I showed up for him to score this. The "official" deer contest score was 5" or 6" more than mine. Deer contest scores always seem to be high IME since they have nothing but upside for having more deer for people to look at on their contest pages. Some are closer to actual scores than others also.





Damn impressive to get that close. Those blades would throw me for one heck of a loop and I would have been like that fella you mentioned earlier...sitting there for 20 minutes trying to decide which one was the browtine

You would be shocked at what the score was actually.


167"?

That was his NET NT. His gross was a whole lot more.


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Re: camp vs. official scores [Re: jshouse] #5204398 07/17/14 12:09 AM
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It tastes like victory!

loser8 Well then tells us about it bolt


74 days....

70 days till he goes Poof for another season bolt


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That was his NET NT. His gross was a whole lot more.


Then you are right, I would be shocked.


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It tastes like victory!

loser8 Well then tells us about it bolt


74 days....

70 days till he goes Poof for another season bolt


No, no...remember, jshouse has his magic feed that this buck loves!!!

Oh wait, he tried that last year too, didn't he peep


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Re: camp vs. official scores [Re: txshntr] #5204402 07/17/14 12:11 AM
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That was his NET NT. His gross was a whole lot more.


Then you are right, I would be shocked.

189 and change gross NT. His side to side symmetry on net typical really pulled him down. I was over 187 on my gross score.


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That was his NET NT. His gross was a whole lot more.


Then you are right, I would be shocked.

189 and change gross NT. His side to side symmetry on net typical really pulled him down. I was over 187 on my gross score.


Ah...that is another point that is typically missed between "camp score" and "official score." On a NT, most people just measure everything and that's the score. I have also seen people give net scores by measuring everything and then deducting any odd points and the difference between sides, instead of measuring the typical frame and deducting from there.

My "camp scores" are counted as gross and basically, if they grow it, I count it grin Guess I am guilty of what the OP was saying grin


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Nets are for fishing.

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That is one fine deer....I would be happy to ask for help loading him

Re: camp vs. official scores [Re: ChrisB] #5204438 07/17/14 12:30 AM
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Who cares about a score?


evidently most people do, that's all you hear about. of course it does make you cool to not care. smile

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Official scores from official scorers can vary as well......


I guess for all the big awards they do panel scores.

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And each on the panel could still be off on score.

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That was his NET NT. His gross was a whole lot more.


Then you are right, I would be shocked.

189 and change gross NT. His side to side symmetry on net typical really pulled him down. I was over 187 on my gross score.


Ah...that is another point that is typically missed between "camp score" and "official score." On a NT, most people just measure everything and that's the score. I have also seen people give net scores by measuring everything and then deducting any odd points and the difference between sides, instead of measuring the typical frame and deducting from there.

My "camp scores" are counted as gross and basically, if they grow it, I count it grin Guess I am guilty of what the OP was saying grin

Yep I have seen some high gross typical bucks with a kicker or two that net way to high when you see some major side to side symmetry deductions. Every time they add up the gross then add in the NT points then deducted the side to side and then deduct the NT for a net typical score.


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And each on the panel could still be off on score.

Take the 2 big East Texas NT from 2012 that were scored and then rescored. The bucks scores changed each time IIRC with one or both being bigger than the original scores.


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Many contest scores are really high. I have seen camp scores in both directions.

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Many contest scores are really high. I have seen camp scores in both directions.


Yep, especially on 8 pointers and the 3 mass measurements.


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Many contest scores are really high. I have seen camp scores in both directions.


Yep, especially on 8 pointers and the 3 mass measurements.

Watched a TV hunting show where the hosts killed a really nice 8 point and one of them said that it was sad that 8 points only get 3 mass measurements per side and they did not edit it for the show. hammer


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Many contest scores are really high. I have seen camp scores in both directions.


Yep, especially on 8 pointers and the 3 mass measurements.

Watched a TV hunting show where the hosts killed a really nice 8 point and one of them said that it was sad that 8 points only get 3 mass measurements per side and they did not edit it for the show. hammer


That's just sad bang


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I didn't know that either, from B&C...

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Do elk and deer always get four circumference measurements? What about eight-pointers? What about twelve-pointers?

Yes, elk and deer trophies ALWAYS get four circumferences. In the case of an eight-point whitetail, the G-4 is missing. Instead of looking for the smallest location between the G-3 and the G-4, the measurement is taken at the halfway point between the G-3 and the tip of the main beam. Similarly, on a mule deer with no G-3, the H-3 circumference measurement would be taken at a point halfway between where the G-2 measurement begins and the end of the G-2. For deer and elk, no matter how many normal points it has, four circumferences per side will always be the exact number of circumference measurements.

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