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Big Tough Boar. #5170072 06/24/14 01:47 AM
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Re: Big Tough Boar. [Re: Texaslawman] #5170087 06/24/14 01:59 AM
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That was a big boar ! Ya find him ??


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No he made it 60 yards into the trees we could smell his piss strong but it was to thick for even the thermals. Everyone had to leave the next morning so we did not go look. Hes dead with those two hits it just sucks we couldn't weigh him.


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Re: Big Tough Boar. [Re: Texaslawman] #5170146 06/24/14 02:22 AM
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Did the 300 blackout shooter get a shot off and then malfunction or didn't even get a shot out?

That pig was running so fast he became momentarily airborne a couple times.

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Originally Posted By: HuntTXhogs
Did the 300 blackout shooter get a shot off and then malfunction or didn't even get a shot out?

That pig was running so fast he became momentarily airborne a couple times.


No the blackout shooter never fired a shot. He was lucky he had a squib subsonic round the bullet was stuck far enough back that the next round would not chamber. For the airborne part I attribute that to his wounds. But he was one of the fastest hogs I have ever seen.


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Re: Big Tough Boar. [Re: Texaslawman] #5170232 06/24/14 02:59 AM
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That's exactly why I got rid of my blackout. Always problems and I don't care what anyone says it will not punch through shoulders on big pigs.

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He got lucky it would not chamber.
Maybe I should have typed you all got lucky.
May have had a mag with live rounds go off.
My buddy has never had a problem with his 300blk,but I have made all the rounds he has fired sub and supers.
When 308 pills are more common I am building a 300blk upper to play with.


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Originally Posted By: 25-06
That's exactly why I got rid of my blackout. Always problems and I don't care what anyone says it will not punch through shoulders on big pigs.


Ditto!!
Very poor round for bigger pigs.
Work OK on under 100 pounders.
Should be a hint when the 110gr VMax's just expand instead of explode like the varmint round they are ment to be due to anemic speed.
Moved on to 6.8 and 458 SoCom....they don't run far when hit with those.

And yeah, that looked like a big stinker!


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Re: Big Tough Boar. [Re: Texaslawman] #5170677 06/24/14 02:35 PM
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This was not the blackouts fault it was bad factory ammo. I do like my 6.8 better but I've knocked them down with the blackout.


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Re: Big Tough Boar. [Re: Texaslawman] #5172163 06/25/14 03:35 AM
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I've shot 50 in the past year with my 300 Blackout. Barnes bullets and max powder loads kill whatever you shoot at.


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Originally Posted By: Beckett
I've shot 50 in the past year with my 300 Blackout. Barnes bullets and max powder loads kill whatever you shoot at.


The 300blk with the ttsx barnes 130gr and near max loads have worked very well.

So far everything shot has died in the field.


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Re: Big Tough Boar. [Re: Texaslawman] #5173880 06/26/14 03:00 AM
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That's good to hear. I just purchase some of the Barnes 110 gr ttsx bullets for the 300 blk out build I am working on. Hope they work out.


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I know the Barnes work ok in the 6.8 but the 120sst is by far the best hog killing bullet in that caliber I have found. I want to try the 125sst in my blackout.


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Re: Big Tough Boar. [Re: 25-06] #5175123 06/26/14 08:57 PM
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That's exactly why I got rid of my blackout. Always problems and I don't care what anyone says it will not punch through shoulders on big pigs.
I just quoted what I said. Then we got a real gem from beckett saying he has killed 50 one year. Kills everything you point it at.

Now beckett your saying u killed 50 big pigs last year with the blackout?

I can tell you from experience that I have and did kill pigs with it. But was not impressed to say the least. Had Barnes' loom like fmjs and sst not expand rapidly. I knew this because I recovered the bullets from very large pigs that died with my bullets in them. But most of the time had to be shot with another caliber to anchor them.

I had two 300 Bo uppers had feeding, jamming issues with both. That's why I say they were always headaches....to me..

I want to hear about these 50 large boars shot through the shoulder and your bullet performance.

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300 BO just doesn't have enough steam.

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25-06 is throwin down the gauntlet! I never said "large boars" and I never said "shot through the shoulder" BUT.......all the large boars I shot through the shoulder did die.

The problem with a 300 Blackout is it only shoots a 110 grain bullet at 2400 to 2500 fps. At this speed, a regular Barnes or SST like you were using will not expand. That is why you recovered bullets that looked like FMJ and you had poor performance from the caliber.

I use the Barnes 110 TAC-TX bullets which are specifically designed to expand reliably at the slower speed of the 300 Blackout. I shoot pigs in the head, in the neck and in the shoulder with these expanding projectiles and the pigs die. Head and neck shots fall DRT and shoulder shots may fall DRT or they may run 50 yards before dying. Dead is Dead.

As for the jamming / reliability issues with your uppers, I can only guess at the cause. I have a CMMG and a Noveske in 300 Blackout and neither gun jams. I try to stay with reputable manufacturers that will stand behind their product if there is a problem. Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't.

Oh yea.......my 300 Blackouts have also killed about 30 raccoons, 3 possoms, and 1/2 dozen porcupines in the last two years. Pretty much splits them in half.

I also use the caliber to cull deer on the family ranch and bet its accounted for 20 does and small bucks in the last couple of years also. Can't remember loosing anything due to poor expansion, penetration or a jammed upper.


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Cool video!

Waiting on all the .223 experts to come on and give you heck though since all their hogs are DRT with bullets half the size y'all were using. smile


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It's a silly arguement. A larger bullet going faster is going to kill pigs better. So why doesn't everybody use a 300 Winchester Magnum to shoot hogs and deer with?

The truth is, a 222 Mag, 223, 22-250, 300 Blackout will kill them fine. The proof is in Hog Rush's videos. He makes well placed shots with 223 FMJ's in the neck and they die in plenty of time for good video.


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Yep you got to have a special bullet and rifle to kill a hog! bang

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Nice video. It does deflate me a bit since I just ordered a Weatherby Vanguard Hog Reaper in .308...I also ordered the Flir 35mm Thermal to put on top. I was hoping it would be a good 100 yard and under hog killing machine. I guess I better make sure I hit them in the neck or noggin!

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Originally Posted By: Beckett
It's a silly arguement. A larger bullet going faster is going to kill pigs better. So why doesn't everybody use a 300 Winchester Magnum to shoot hogs and deer with?

The truth is, a 222 Mag, 223, 22-250, 300 Blackout will kill them fine. The proof is in Hog Rush's videos. He makes well placed shots with 223 FMJ's in the neck and they die in plenty of time for good video.



In the case of the hog in this video the .308 was a gut shot, the 6.8 was most likely a high shoulder shot since he stepped forward as I fired. I am 100% confident he is dead I could smell him when I was at the woods edge but I was not going through all those thorns at night for a stinky old dead hog. Hogs are tough sometimes they just dont go down.

Also I have killed hogs with a .22 lr, and had plenty run off from a good hit with a 405gr bullet from a 45/70 does that make the .22 better no. In my opinion 222/.223 are weak for hogs. The blackout is a little better, the 6.8 is better than that, and then the .308 is better than all of them. Shot placement is always key but the larger calibers and better bullets give you more leeway. Like the video I posted up two weeks ago where I hit the 290 pound boar in the [censored] and spun him around. A .223 he would have never stopped. You ask why isn't everyone shooting 300 win mags well there is a balance with everything that's why I choose the 6.8spc. I can get the 6.8 in a ar platform and it has the recoil of the .223 but with 80% the knockdown of the .308

So long story short yes a 5.56/.223 will kill hogs but shot placement is way more critical. Why limit yourself If you are able to use better options like the blackout, 6.8, .308 then do so. If .223 is all you have well then it is your only option.


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Originally Posted By: Pittstate
Nice video. It does deflate me a bit since I just ordered a Weatherby Vanguard Hog Reaper in .308...I also ordered the Flir 35mm Thermal to put on top. I was hoping it would be a good 100 yard and under hog killing machine. I guess I better make sure I hit them in the neck or noggin!


Your .308 will be fine Shoot them center neck right in front of the shoulders crease this way if they move like this one did you will hit either the noggin or break the shoulders. I've killed hundreds of hogs with the 6.8 which has 20% less power. This was a combination of bad shot placement and a very large hog.



This is where I aim. If I hit my mark it snaps the neck and they are DRT. If the hog moves as I shoot it either hits him in the head or breaks the shoulder. Now on larger boars the spine is dead center of the neck most of the time even if you hit high it will still snap the spine with larger calibers, but with smaller calibers it wont do much if you hit that meat. Here is an example of a 220 boar how far down the spine is. Use the ear hole as a reference shoot right on the front crease of the shoulder in line with the ear.

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Great illustrations!


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That shot placement is exactly where I shoot my trophy boars. It saves the skull for a nice euro mount. I have killed several big hogs with my .243 that way. I use the .223 and 30-06 sometimes as well. When using the .223, I only shoot them in the noggin. Never had one take more than a step when I hit them in the noggin. I was hoping the .308 would be a nice in between round that would take them down in case I miss by a few inches (wind drift/hog moves/etc) or when shooting through thin brush. The .243 tends to deflect very each when even hitting corn stalks. I like the 30-30 (or 35 Rem) ballistics, but dislike their range.

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