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 nubbin bucks
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12/16/08 12:15 AM
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wfontjr
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i did not want to hijack the ticket thread but i have seen this in two post in the last month, nubbin bucks tagged as buck or does or vice versa, as far i understand in the outdoor annual nubbin bucks are tagged as does unless there is a hard bone thru the skin, someone correct if i have read wrong
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Re: nubbin bucks
[Re: wfontjr]
#514156
12/16/08 01:55 AM
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TXBowhunter1
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Re: nubbin bucks
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12/16/08 02:05 AM
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nubbin bucks are tagged as does unless there is a hard bone thru the skin, someone correct if i have read wrong
Correct
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Re: nubbin bucks
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12/16/08 04:20 AM
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rstewlandman
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correct....
before shooting look at head square is nubber rounded is a doe....I shot a nubber a while back and now look super close at a doe's head before shooting....
the man at the top of the mountain didn't fall up it
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Re: nubbin bucks
[Re: rstewlandman]
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12/16/08 04:23 AM
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correct....
before shooting look at head square is nubber rounded is a doe....I shot a nubber a while back and now look super close at a doe's head before shooting....
Oh nice, I hope you don't get baby deer ecoli
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Re: nubbin bucks
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12/17/08 01:46 AM
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saltbranch
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Why shoot a nubbin? Makes no sense to me.
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Re: nubbin bucks
[Re: saltbranch]
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12/17/08 02:46 AM
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ya know BIL it was one of the best tasting deer I ever ate...that said i beat myself up over it pretty good....but man if it wasnt excellent! I think I had the baby deer ecoli last week....  they dont have one to truly explain what the baby deer ecoli feels like...(needs both ends)
the man at the top of the mountain didn't fall up it
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Re: nubbin bucks
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12/17/08 06:36 PM
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Why shoot a nubbin? Makes no sense to me.
Sometimes like if it's a long distance shot ot he's mixed in with a bunch of other deer, you might think it's a doe, until you walk up to it. It's happened on our lease a few times.
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Re: nubbin bucks
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12/17/08 06:51 PM
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OK, I do not understand this...
Isn't a deers' sex determined by its genitals?
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Re: nubbin bucks
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#514164
12/17/08 06:54 PM
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TXBowhunter1
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OK, I do not understand this...
Isn't a deers' sex determined by its genitals?
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Re: nubbin bucks
[Re: TXBowhunter1]
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12/17/08 06:59 PM
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I feed Indian Corn, the deer really seem to like it and stay at the feeder longer......and longer....!
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Re: nubbin bucks
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12/17/08 07:04 PM
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You have buck and buck or "antlerless" and "antlerless" only deer tags on your license. Keykey word is antlerless......antlerless is defines as the antlers are not hardened and protruding through the skin. Kinda sounds to me like the actual sex doesn't play into it other than the word buck. IMO
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Re: nubbin bucks
[Re: Curly]
#514167
12/17/08 07:07 PM
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Re: nubbin bucks
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12/17/08 07:25 PM
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Curly
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Re: nubbin bucks
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12/17/08 07:32 PM
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Hmmm....
If I was hunting and I shot what used to be a 10 point buck but he completely lost both antlers in a fight, I can tag it as a doe? I don't think so...
My tags say "Buck" and "Antlerless"
I may be wrong but the way I interpret the rules is
Buck = a deer that's got balls, whether it has antlers or not.
Antlerless = a deer that does not have balls.
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Re: nubbin bucks
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#514170
12/17/08 07:39 PM
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Curly
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Then maybe it should say "ball-less" LOL
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Re: nubbin bucks
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12/17/08 07:40 PM
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Why doesn't it just say doe instead of antlerless then???? Hmmm
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Re: nubbin bucks
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12/17/08 07:52 PM
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I don't know, but can you answer this question? Quote:
If I was hunting and I shot what used to be a 10 point buck but he completely lost both antlers in a fight, I can tag it as a doe?
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Re: nubbin bucks
[Re: Tx_Phantom]
#514173
12/17/08 07:59 PM
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I can answer it but it might be wrong, haha........if there's proof that the antlers were once protruding through the skin, if it was once a 10 point then I'm sure no skin would be over the antler holes, then I myself would tag it as a buck. How would you know it used to be a 10 point? If you saw the antlers break off in the fight, wouldn't you just not shoot it and avoid the confusion? JMO.....
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Re: nubbin bucks
[Re: Tx_Phantom]
#514174
12/17/08 08:00 PM
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page 64 of the Outdoor Annual:
"A "buck deer" is a deer with a hardened antler protruding through the skin. A "spike buck deer" is a BUCK with no antler having more than one point. ALL OTHER DEER ARE ANTLERLESS DEER"
Note that it doesn't say anything about what sex the deer is. Gonads or no-gonads, doesn't mean a thing vis-a-vis's the TPW.
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Re: nubbin bucks
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#514175
12/17/08 08:56 PM
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Tx_Phantom
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Quote:
page 64 of the Outdoor Annual:
"A "buck deer" is a deer with a hardened antler protruding through the skin. A "spike buck deer" is a BUCK with no antler having more than one point. ALL OTHER DEER ARE ANTLERLESS DEER"
Note that it doesn't say anything about what sex the deer is. Gonads or no-gonads, doesn't mean a thing vis-a-vis's the TPW.
Thank you! I was looking for that and i did not have my annual handy...
These laws need revision - the subjectiveness will allow you to interpret them in many different ways.
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Re: nubbin bucks
[Re: Tx_Phantom]
#514176
12/17/08 09:25 PM
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either it has a horn protruding through the skin or it don't....no interpretation needed.
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Re: nubbin bucks
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#514177
12/17/08 09:37 PM
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This is really extreme I know but it does leave the door open to shooting a buck, removing it's antlers and being able to say it had none when you shot it. Anyway, I think I'm done with this topic. I got a buck this year and his antlers were way out of his skin.... 
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Re: nubbin bucks
[Re: Curly]
#514178
12/17/08 09:39 PM
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It seems pretty obvious to me. It either has antlers, or not. But when in doubt, call the Game Warden.
Thats the thing about life, nobody gets out alive.
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Re: nubbin bucks
[Re: Curly]
#514179
12/17/08 09:42 PM
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that would fall back to the proof of sex. Proff of sex must accompany the meat until its final processing place (in so many words)
I would suggest if you blow a deers head off, be sure and leave some sort of proof of sex with the deer...
If it even looks like a person tried and removed then skull cap to hide if it has horns...you better not have a antlerless tag on the deer...
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