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Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. #5079254 04/20/14 11:59 AM
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I've got a 1,000 acre pasture available for lease this season, looking for 4-5 hunters, $1,750 each.

About 10 miles south of Graham. Each hunter gets 1 pre-selected location for feeder. Cabin available, need to bring a generator if you want electricity. Deer, hogs, turkey, & varmints.

No friends allowed, but you can bring wife/kids. No dove hunting, & no shooting non game animals (like squirrels, rabbits, etc). Hunters must run corn & protein year round.

PM me for more info......

Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5079260 04/20/14 12:09 PM
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This should go quickly in this location.

Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5079266 04/20/14 12:21 PM
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Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5079389 04/20/14 02:22 PM
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Year round lease ???

Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5079434 04/20/14 02:48 PM
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I have a group and we are looking in the area , I messaged you my contact info . Have cash in hand and I'm at Pk now . Please call

Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5079616 04/20/14 05:26 PM
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Is it open pasture land? How much timber and water is on the land?

Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5079623 04/20/14 05:32 PM
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Deal pending

Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5081450 04/21/14 09:25 PM
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Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5082932 04/22/14 08:42 PM
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Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5096013 05/01/14 06:56 PM
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Deal fell thru, so I'm putting this back up.

Please dont bother contactng me until you have a group that is ready & have the cash in hand.

This is a great value for the right guys.

Be prepared to spend $1,000-1,200 a year on corn & protein, per hunter.

This lease is NOT for you if
1). You like a bunch of hunters on your lease, driving in front of you, shooting a bunch all over
2). You like to drag a bunch of crap out to your deer lease & leave it for years, unused
3). 1/2 [censored] put out corn
4). Want to show up twice during season, but you HAVE to shoot a big deer.

Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5103635 05/07/14 10:23 PM
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Still available.

Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5115369 05/16/14 12:35 PM
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This is a great lease for the right group....

Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5115378 05/16/14 12:41 PM
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Year round access or season only

Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5115513 05/16/14 02:24 PM
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Conditional year round. I don't mind guys coming out every 3-4 weeks to fill feeders & hog hunt in the off season. But I don't want guys living on the lease.

Of course during deer season, come as much as you can.

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Is there water nearby?

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Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5132082 05/28/14 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
Conditional year round. I don't mind guys coming out every 3-4 weeks to fill feeders & hog hunt in the off season. But I don't want guys living on the lease.

Of course during deer season, come as much as you can.


Are you the owner or broker?

Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5132632 05/28/14 11:32 PM
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I have some questions:

1. As was asked earlier, are you the owner or broker? Along with this, are you on the lease or just managing it?
2. You stated a 1000 acre pasture leasing to 4-5 hunters for $1750 each. Normally you lease for $x/acre and the more folks the less each would pay. If the price doesn't change I know everyone would rather have less than more hunters, so I am curious as to why you would each have to pay $1750 if there would be five hunters when you can hunt only four and still be paying the same amount?
3. Is this a yearly renewal or is there a long term contract possible? I know if I am paying $1750 and then expected to spend another $1000+ for corn and protein then I would expect to be guaranteed more than just this year.

Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5133183 05/29/14 04:34 AM
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I am owner & lease manager.

If 4 guys want the lease, I reserve the 5th spot for myself. If a smaller group wants the entire lease, I'd consider a deal. I am not interested in leasing by the acre, as most people would pack hunters on there.

I am not opposed to long term leasing, but there are many problems associated with multi year leases. If hunters follow my rules, they are welcome back. If not, it's better to part ways.

I have specific rules, & I am a very involved owner. My leases are not for everyone. I charge a little more money, but offer more acreage per hunter. If you want a cheap lease, this isn't for you. If you don't mind paying more, to get more, & will put in more time & money, it's an awesome lease.

Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5133641 05/29/14 03:32 PM
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My point about the pricing was that most folks that lease know what they are paying per acre. Then generally you decide on how many hunters to put on it many times based on how it affects the individual membership cost. If you can add one more member and drop your individual cost by several hundred dollars each then you decide if it will affect individual safety and make a decision. Most hunters are geared towards price per acre is my point. On the long term contract, a group of five would be investing $13,750 per year for a hunting lease which in my world is a pretty hefty investment. I would expect that we would be assured more than a one year deal as long as we followed the rules, both yours and the state's, for that kind of an investment. As the land owner you're entitled to charge whatever you want and have whatever rules you want and can be assured that there is someone out there that will step up to the plate. I have seen too many instances of "brokers" charging more than the landowner requires for payment and pocketing the rest. I have also heard of folks losing their lease after a number of years because someone came by with more money or pulled the lease because a buddy or family wanted it. Also, if a group of five comes to you and you lease it to them does that mean that you will not be hunting it?

Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: Russ79] #5134038 05/29/14 07:31 PM
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If that is a pretty heavy investment, & you don't see the value of what I am offering, then it isn't going to be for that type of person.

When leasng by the acre, & allowing leasees to ascertain how many hunters, invariably they always want to add more hunters, to drive their cost down. Then, Billy Bob will decide he can add 3 more people, & he can hunt for free! Then, everybody starts bringing their friend to hunt also. Then Billy Bob decides everybody can set up a couple of more stands, then everybody is driving in front of each other & putting stand too close to each other. Then somebody gets mad at Billy Bob for putting his stand too close, & they have a fight, & Billy Bob kicks a couple of guys off. Then Billy Bob decides he can charge the new guys MORE, & he can hunt for free & put a lil money in his pocket, Then other guys figure out Billy Bob ain't paying nothing, & they are paying for the whole lease. They get mad & haul some of Billy Bobs stuff off. So he calls the Sheriff, lawsuits are threatened, asses are swore to be kicked, etc.

I am not interested in any drama from any low rent hunters. I decide how may hunters, what they pay, & what they can shoot, & what all they can do on my place. If there is a problem, I handle it directly with the hunters. anybody breaking any rules has to pack their stuff & be gone in 24 hrs.

How many leases on here have 1 hunter on less than 100 acres? Most, because somebody is trying to squeeze the last bit of money out of it. There is a lease in here for 21 acres! How may deer do you think that 21 acres supports? Other recent leases included hunters on less than 80 acres each. Sounds pretty friggin dangerous to me! What kind of a deer herd will they have? Pretty poor opportunity I say, but hey, it's cheap!

So if cheap is what matters to you, or saving a few hundred dollars, this ain't for you. If 5 guys wantit, then no, will not not hunt it, as I have other stands in other pastures.

My problem with multi-year leases is, do the hunters pay all up front? If not, why would I commit to something when they have no skin in the game? What if they choose not to pay the next year, what am I gonna do, go to court? Of course not, I ain't got time for that. I've never kicked anybody off, that didn't follow my instructions. That would be something that the hunters would have to trust, as I have to trust that they will do what is right on my place.

Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: maximus_flavius] #5134139 05/29/14 08:46 PM
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First off, if you set up the proper guidelines, none of that BS that you say would happen will happen. First, you (as the land owner) can say that I have X number of acres to lease for this amount with no more than X number members allowed. Then the proposed leader of the group can get with his people and they can decide to go with the max number of hunters you allow or each pay a little more for less hunters. I do that with my leases every time I lose a member- ask the others if they want to replace the lost member or suck up the difference. You have a rule about guests and what they can and can't kill- most leases only allow one legal limit per member and it doesn't matter who kills it, the member or his wife or kid or buddy. Then, you set up how far apart your stands have to be from each other...with GPS and aerial photos it isn't difficult to do this. Now, as far as # acres/hunter, topography and foliage can help determine that. I have leases that you couldn't shoot someone 200 yards from you if you wanted to and I have hunted places that you better have 500-600 acres apiece, or more. I am not advocating "packing" a lease with hunters- I am just saying that the patent statement that you have to have x number of acres per person doesn't take into effect all factors. I have a couple of leases that all of the members of each lease haven't even met some of the other members because they are never there hunting at the same time. And I don't see how you think that $13,000+ a year is no skin in the game. This kind of money isn't something they choose to do (the protein and corn part)- you mandate it, so yes I would expect to know that I will have it as long as I either want it or have a contract for. Let the leader of the group fill a spot if someone drops off but he should know that you expect full payment when it is due even if he has to pay the difference. I have been running leases for a number of years now and have never had a problem filling a spot. I had one spot on one of my leases open that I posted on another hunting site and within five minutes after I hit the post button my phone was ringing.

Re: Need 4-5 hunters on 1,000 acres, $1,750 each. [Re: Russ79] #5134194 05/29/14 09:17 PM
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Your methods are great if they work for you. I have my own way of doing things.

You mentioned buddies are welcome to shoot deer on your leases. That has never worked out for me. Somebody's buddy might shoot a big buck, then the other members are pissed. Also, I just flat out don't want peoples buddies on the place. They can go get their own lease. Allowing buddies has ruined more hunting groups than anything else on my properties.

I know topography & vegetation play a role in how safe it may be to hunt, but I not comfortable with people 40-50 acres away shooting in my direction, under any circumstance. The last thing I want is somebody getting shot, just so guys save a few hundred bucks.

The fact is, $13,000 invested by 5 guys is not that much for deer hunting. That's under $3,000 each, & they are getting use of millions of dollars worth of assets. X # of hunters per acre is indicative of hunting pressure & safety. Would you feel better on a lease where you have 200 acre (or more per man), or 80 acres per hunter where guys can bring their friends?

I appreciate your insight, but I will continue to use my way.



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Your way is fine- it's your place. You can make the rule that no guests period or immediate family only. I have news for you...unless you designate how far apart the stands are it doesn't matter if each member has 50 acres or 500 acres each if two members decide they want their stands on the boundary between them. I guess if their stands are back to back and no window on the back of their stands then that would work. I know that Graham is a good area, but really, the use of millions of dollars worth of assets? They are paying a trespass fee (which is what a hunting lease basically is) to you to hunt deer that God put on this earth that a few happen to be on your property or are passing thru. It sounds to me like you are trying to set up a trophy lease at others expense. Obviously you are in a higher tax bracket than me if you think that $3000 per person per year is no big expense.

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I guess we'll just have to disagree about $3,000 being much of an expense for deer hunting.

I have several hunters who spent $5-7,000 their first year, buying nice stands & feeders. I have a few also that spent over $20,000, buying really nice stands, nice feeders, travel trailer, Polaris, storage container, etc. Not to mention all the time & gas money they spend. They get a great deal I think. They ain't gotta worry about anybody else hunting their area, or shooting towards them, or some a-hole putting up a stand next to them. They know they can keep their lease for years, as long as they do their part.
They don't mind paying a little more, & getting a nicer lease. That's the type I'm looking for. YMMV.

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It's simple. It's his land and his rules. Like them and join the lease or move on.

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