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broadhead debate #4999741 03/01/14 09:00 PM
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Ok so if you've read any of my previous posts you know I'm a newbie. but i still wanna get out here and hunt soon. Ill be hunting hogs and deer with my bow. with that said lets start the debate. from what I've read it seems to be about 50/50 in fixed vs mechanical broad heads. i think I'm probably gonna go with fixed. I'm shooting 100 gr tips. really thinking the muzzy mx100, as it has a wider cut and has a long standing good reputation as being tough, second would be montec, and then if i went mechanical id go rage hypodermic. any advice would be great. issues or problems you've had in real world situations. if it helps I'm shooting about 68# and 28" draw with easton hexx 330 arrows.


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I would highly recommend Slick Trick broadheads. IMO the design is superior to the muzzy's. I've taken many deer and pigs with them and have never had a complaint. Massive blood trails and short recoveries every time.

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which model are you going with? mech? 3 blade? 4 blade? looks like they all are good heads. hard to choose one


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I use the GrizzTrick 2.


 

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yeah those look sick...


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I am relative newbie as well, just finishing my 3rd season of hardcore bow hunting. I started off with mechanical - Grim Reaper - and buried it in breast of tom turkey exactly where it aimed. When I couldn't find the downed turkey, I blamed it on mechanical blades which I figured must not have opened. Switched to Montec G5 fixed after that. Only to later learn that I should have aimed lower at the turkey.

What I have learned is that all broad heads work when you hit them where you aim. But I shot a doe last season that I did not hit well and I was using the Grim Reaper white tail. I hit her two far back. She went 15 yards and laid down. I could see the blood pooling underneath her and she died quickly. The Grim Reaper is a beast.

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Are y'all seeing on the new faster bows that mechanical is the way to go?


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I am relative newbie as well, just finishing my 3rd season of hardcore bow hunting. I started off with mechanical - Grim Reaper - and buried it in breast of tom turkey exactly where it aimed. When I couldn't find the downed turkey, I blamed it on mechanical blades which I figured must not have opened.


I will bet you a dollar against a donut hole that that Grim Reaper opened. They just do not fail. If you shoot a turkey in the breast they are not likely to die where you can find them.

The most often overlooked and one of the best cut on contact broadhead is a Grim Reaper Hades.

Both back and front edges of blade sharpened! Cuts both directions. .035" thick MAXX EDGE SS blades neck down to .020" and sharpened for maximum strength and maximum sharpness. V-notched trocar steel tip. 4-point internal blade locking system.

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I really like Magnus stingers/buzzcuts, but have found that the points roll over a tiny bit if you hit bone. I've also had one blade bend slightly/develop a wobble after hitting a deer, but you can send them back afterward and get a free replacement. Kind of a hassle, but if you buy six, you'll always have plenty to use while waiting for a replacement. Aiming at the shoulder, I easily blew through a middle aged south texas cull buck standing broadside at 20 yards.

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Oh it opened. It was my first year of bow hunting (even hunting, really) in over 25 years and I hit it exactly where I aimed. The turkey flipped at least one full time and wobbled like a drunk on Saturday night straight toward my blind. I figured he was going down any second and I farted around, texted my buddy, congratulated myself only to notice he turned before he got to my blind and was walking away. I choked on the second arrow and he went into some deep brush and I never recovered him.

So I blamed what I thought then was a perfect shot on the broad head and switched to fixed blade. But then I went back. I might need to try the Hades though.

By the way, I could have got out of my blind and clubbed that damn turkey to death. Or manually stuck him with another arrow. That was a painful lesson. Hit them in the right spot and most broad heads will do the job very effectively.

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Hartcraft Exchange,awesome product, same ferel for several differnt options of blades for turkey deer or what ever your hunting.
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Don't be cheap! If it were me and you were thinking Muzzy, buy a pack and shoot them at target before hunting. I never could get a Muzzy to fly very straight for me. Slick Trick and Montecs did very well, as did Rage.

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been doing a lot of research online. seems like the best mechanicals as far as the way they open and so called reliability and durability is swhackers and grim reapers.of the two id say i like the reaper a lot more just on a design aspect. as far as fixed broad heads i like muzzy mx3 and g5 montec cs. both seem great and have different pros. as early as the reaper seems to be, why would you want the fixed? i guess I'm saying, lets say I'm on a deer hunt and see some hogs after the hunt. would that be when i want to use the fixed or would the mech be the way to go?


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I love Montecs. I use them a lot. I really like the Slick Tricks too. I havent used them as much but I know that are a legit broadhead.

I have used Rage, had issues. Rage Xtreme, had issues. Now, I have been talking to a Sales Rep and he swears by the Rage Hypodermics. He isnt the 1st good thing that I have heard about them.

I used soem Grim Reapers this past year. Their motto of "Watch em fall" holds true. Everything I shot, never took a step...even deer. Massive entry and exit wounds with blood everywhere.

Im not one who religously sticks to one BH. I really like trying out different BH's but my go to heads are Montecs and now GR's.


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so what occasions would you use one over the other?


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I used soem Grim Reapers this past year. Their motto of "Watch em fall" holds true. Everything I shot, never took a step...even deer. Massive entry and exit wounds with blood everywhere.


That is for sure.





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Originally Posted By: freonfreak82
been doing a lot of research online. seems like the best mechanicals as far as the way they open and so called reliability and durability is swhackers and grim reapers.of the two id say i like the reaper a lot more just on a design aspect. as far as fixed broad heads i like muzzy mx3 and g5 montec cs. both seem great and have different pros. as early as the reaper seems to be, why would you want the fixed? i guess I'm saying, lets say I'm on a deer hunt and see some hogs after the hunt. would that be when i want to use the fixed or would the mech be the way to go?


I don't like changing arrows out during the hunt. Be it deer, pig or any other animal I plan on shooting, all will be shot with what I have loaded. What you use for deer will, or should, be good for pig and vice versus. Doing research is a good thing, BUT sometimes people get so wrapped up they loae sight of what really needs to be done. Don't let somebody's "research" dictate what you need.

Perfect example: All week I get VOTE FOR ME OR VOTE FOR THEM ads. One Party sent me a voter's suggestion to carry into polling place to "help" casting my vote. Well, a few days later I get another from same Party but different group and wouldn't you know, there were differences LoL.

BH company A says this about their heads, while BH company 2 says this, and each pay hunters from TV to use their products and talk about how its the best thing since sliced cheese.

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Originally Posted By: freonfreak82
so what occasions would you use one over the other?

It depends where I am hunting and what I am hunting. If I am in KS hunting WT, then it's Montecs. If I am here in CenTX hunting WT then it's Rage or Reapers. Sometimes I like just twisting a new head on just to see the hole it makes.

They should all work fine as long as they are sharp and you place them in the correct spot.


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I shot Thunderheads for years, then switch to Muzzys, Probably me but I could never get them to group the way I wanted. I now shoot Slick Tricks and I'm real happy with them.

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i really like the reapers and think the whitetail special is probably what I'm going with. i did see in one of my searches though that there were reaper hog heads, obviously for hogs lol. they seemed like they were shorter and stockier possibly stronger. but nothing on the reaper website about em.

Foxtrot-- why would you use fixed in Kansas and mechanical here? just asking as I'm a newb


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KS(and other MidWestern deer) have larger bodies. I want as much penetration as possible on those tanks up there!


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gotcha, figured that was the reasoning.


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I am a fixed blade only person. When I release an arrow, I know that a Slick Trick standard broadhead will have a 1" diameter cut. I don't have to hope that a mechanical will open as designed. Nothing against mechanicals, it is just one less thing that I have to worry about.

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Biggest advantage to mechanicals is less apparent bow tuning issues.

When it comes to penetration, that's broad head design, more cutting surface less penetration. With that said there is a point where it doesn't matter. With todays bows and their high rate of ke transfer and speed I think it less relevant (especially on whitetails ).

They both have their place.


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