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Snares
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02/21/14 02:38 PM
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BrianS
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Ok I have had good luck so far.. I have snared everything from pig, beaver and even a buzzard.. No I don't have pics of that but wish I did.. I have been watching trails where coyotes are traveling.. My snares are getting knocked down and last night I had a coyote snared and it chewed through the 3/32 cable.. Am I correct in thinking that my loop size is likely the issue for these coyotes?
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Re: Snares
[Re: BrianS]
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02/21/14 05:02 PM
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MAYBE!! Without seeing your set-up all I can say is could be a lot of things. If they're being knocked down they're set properly. If a coyote chewed through, probably need to switch to the 7x7 cable. There are snares set in fences across the state, they take out a lot of critters, but if they were set properly they would take so many more. Go to some of the trapping websites, find a couple of instructional books on snaring, it will help.
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Re: Snares
[Re: BrianS]
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02/21/14 05:04 PM
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Navasot
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Yes.. you need to make it smaller... catch them right and they will not be able to chew anything and be choked out within minutes
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Re: Snares
[Re: BrianS]
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02/21/14 05:04 PM
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Oops! Maybe I need to get a instructional book on typing and grammar! That should read; If they're getting knocked down, they're NOT set properly.
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Re: Snares
[Re: BrianS]
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02/21/14 05:07 PM
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Navasot
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I always get a very thin piece of wire and make an S in it... then hang the loop on the bottom strand of fence and it will not get knocked down... even if they go to the side of it the wire will make it go back level... even though its tough snaring spots that big
Last edited by Navasot; 02/21/14 05:08 PM.
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Re: Snares
[Re: BrianS]
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02/21/14 05:16 PM
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BrianS
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Re: Snares
[Re: Navasot]
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02/21/14 05:24 PM
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Txcatman1
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Yes.. you need to make it smaller... catch them right and they will not be able to chew anything and be choked out within minutes How can say make it smaller without knowing how big his loop is. Fences and trails are totally different. The issue is weather or not the snare is "loaded" or not. I make all my own snares an they fire like a rocket. 8-10 in loop on fence crawl unders and 12-14 in loop on trails about a foot of the ground for yotes. If the snare is not supported correctly and loaded then you will have knock downs and hip catches resulting in chew outs. Get that swan neck in your loop and they'll be choked out waitin for you next time. Look on YouTube how to load a snare and go from there. On a 12 in loop the snare should fire and bounce of your wrist when you put your hand in it, that's when you got a good one
Texas fur and skull buyer Greg Novak Gnovakswa@gmail.com 361-793-6706
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Re: Snares
[Re: BrianS]
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02/21/14 08:53 PM
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colt45-90
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I wouldn't admit to the buzzard part
hold on Newt, we got a runaway
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Re: Snares
[Re: Txcatman1]
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02/21/14 09:39 PM
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Navasot
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Yes.. you need to make it smaller... catch them right and they will not be able to chew anything and be choked out within minutes How can say make it smaller without knowing how big his loop is. Fences and trails are totally different. The issue is weather or not the snare is "loaded" or not. I make all my own snares an they fire like a rocket. 8-10 in loop on fence crawl unders and 12-14 in loop on trails about a foot of the ground for yotes. If the snare is not supported correctly and loaded then you will have knock downs and hip catches resulting in chew outs. Get that swan neck in your loop and they'll be choked out waitin for you next time. Look on YouTube how to load a snare and go from there. On a 12 in loop the snare should fire and bounce of your wrist when you put your hand in it, that's when you got a good one If it going around the sholders id say the loop was to big... Iv always used cheap snares also there has to be decent pressure for them to close. Those good ones sound nice
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Re: Snares
[Re: BrianS]
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02/22/14 12:03 AM
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Txcatman1
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The loop can be huge, I get almost 100% neck catches on my snares due to how fast the snare fires. Some trappers up north use 14 -16 in loops in power snares and those actually are spring loaded and are awesome and very deadly. Your support has to be strong, your wire on the fence might work but it sounds like the snare can move and you don't want that. I use a wooden stake with number 9 wire attached to it then on your snare you have a small piece of tubing that the wire goes in and holds your snare in place. Just like a wammie. With the stake set up like that you can put snares anywhere, trails, 2 tracks, fences etc. with a strong snare support and a snare that actually springs close when encountered is how you consistently neck catch animals. Having a slow reacting snare is how they get an arm through, and yes you are right though the loop might be a little large but my loops spring from 14 in to 3 when something goes through it. It's all how you put the memory in the cable when forming the loop. The "swan neck" at the end of the snare is the most important part. If you get that part down you will be amazed at how fast they fire and how much your catch % will rise
Texas fur and skull buyer Greg Novak Gnovakswa@gmail.com 361-793-6706
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Re: Snares
[Re: BrianS]
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02/22/14 02:42 PM
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Navasot
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Lol yeah mine had no springs only a cinch on them... I got to were id anchor from a tpost and wire it to the fence so it didn't touch the ground but a little pressure would pull it off. I also got to were I would set up small twigs in the ground that would keep it from spinning either way... did what I could with $1.25 snares lol
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Re: Snares
[Re: BrianS]
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02/22/14 04:44 PM
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Txcatman1
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Yah mine cost about $1.50 to make to. The way you put some memory in the snare is to hammer a nail into a 2x4 and work that snare around the nail, paying attention to keep the snare in good shape, and putting a l shaped curve in the loop at the tail end. That's called the swan neck, navasot if you look it up on YouTube it will show you how to make it in the wire. It makes the snare sit on a fine point while it's puts resistance on itself so that when you put your finger on it, it fires, like actually the whole loop springs shut just by having the memory in the wire an that back pressure on the snare to make it close fast. And I anchor to the t post as while but the support is critical to the setup as well. If your snare is solid and you funnel everything to your loop, nothing can slide by it, the snare should not move what so ever. Not saying that your doing anything wrong bud but I think you can significantly raise your catch % by changing a few things.
Texas fur and skull buyer Greg Novak Gnovakswa@gmail.com 361-793-6706
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Re: Snares
[Re: BrianS]
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02/22/14 04:49 PM
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Navasot
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Cool ill check that out! Thanks for the info man
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