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Re: Dumbest thing ever!!! [Re: JakeJJ] #4979933 02/18/14 03:55 PM
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if you shot 1 over the limit could you claim that as a mistake bird?


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Originally Posted By: garrett
if you shot 1 over the limit could you claim that as a mistake bird?


Now that is probably more common during teal season. They can fly in such tight groups it's easy to scotch double or quadruple...

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mistake bird? lol

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Originally Posted By: Featherduster
mistake bird? lol


I like the idea myself clap


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I agree this is ignorant. One of the important parts of Duck hunting is being able to ID birds. If you cannot do it you should not be hunting solo.

To bad we are not able to bag a "mistake" Yankee, the country would be a lot better off.


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Re: Dumbest thing ever!!! [Re: JakeJJ] #4980067 02/18/14 05:08 PM
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not sure that murdering a Yankee is the same as shooting an extra duck


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Originally Posted By: Yassir Sanchez

To bad we are not able to bag a "mistake" Yankee, the country would be a lot better off.


That escalated quickly.


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Lol. Duckbill that was funny!

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The dude up top has already taken lots of bone before this deer, both mule and whitetail.
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Originally Posted By: Yassir Sanchez
I agree this is ignorant. One of the important parts of Duck hunting is being able to ID birds. If you cannot do it you should not be hunting solo.

To bad we are not able to bag a "mistake" Yankee, the country would be a lot better off.


Hell, you are from north texas. You're a damn yankee to me. Better watch your back this teal season. aim

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Originally Posted By: Trout-killer
Originally Posted By: Yassir Sanchez
I agree this is ignorant. One of the important parts of Duck hunting is being able to ID birds. If you cannot do it you should not be hunting solo.

To bad we are not able to bag a "mistake" Yankee, the country would be a lot better off.


Hell, you're from north texas. You're a damn yankee to me. Better watch your back this teal season. aim


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Re: Dumbest thing ever!!! [Re: JakeJJ] #4980280 02/18/14 07:40 PM
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This idea of a mistake bird is a really bad idea and I can tell you why. A few days ago someone told me that a recent article online from the Houston newspaper about snipe hunting had made an identification mistake by using a picture of a Dowitcher captioned as a Snipe. When I did a google search for it, the top results was not that article but instead was some long threads from a couple of bird watching forums. The common response from individuals was that they had no problem with hunting, they know that hunters pay for many of the refuges, but felt if a bird was so difficult for hunters to identify that the wrong birds are often being shot, that it should not be allowed to be hunted.

So say we are allowed a "mistake" bird. Then the surveys are done both in the normal snail mail channels and on exit surveys from public hunts. It is going to show all these hunters shooting a bird by mistake. We know it is really a "bonus" bird to us and most hunters are going to take advantage of that, but that is not how the anti hunters are going to spin it and that is not how those bird watchers on the fence are going to see it. You will see the media report with some shocking report on the AP how hunters shot X amount of such and such birds by mistake last year and spin it to figure in that it must also have some "degree of error" for protected non game birds as well that must be getting killed related to the number of legal birds taken due to mistakes of identity. We would be cutting our own throats on this one. It would be better to add to the limit "and one of which can be a Wood Duck, Tree Duck, Mallard, Shoveler or some such wording. Instead of making hunters look like idiots, just call it what it is, an additional resident bird allowed in the limit, not a mistake bird.

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Originally Posted By: Sniper John
This idea of a mistake bird is a really bad idea and I can tell you why. A few days ago someone told me that a recent article online from the Houston newspaper about snipe hunting had made an identification mistake by using a picture of a Dowitcher captioned as a Snipe. When I did a google search for it, the top results was not that article but instead was some long threads from a couple of bird watching forums. The common response from individuals was that they had no problem with hunting, they know that hunters pay for many of the refuges, but felt if a bird was so difficult for hunters to identify that the wrong birds are often being shot, that it should not be allowed to be hunted.

So say we are allowed a "mistake" bird. Then the surveys are done both in the normal snail mail channels and on exit surveys from public hunts. It is going to show all these hunters shooting a bird by mistake. We know it is really a "bonus" bird to us and most hunters are going to take advantage of that, but that is not how the anti hunters are going to spin it and that is not how those bird watchers on the fence are going to see it. You will see the media report with some shocking report on the AP how hunters shot X amount of such and such birds by mistake last year and spin it to figure in that it must also have some "degree of error" for protected non game birds as well that must be getting killed related to the number of legal birds taken due to mistakes of identity. We would be cutting our own throats on this one. It would be better to add to the limit "and one of which can be a Wood Duck, Tree Duck, Mallard, Shoveler or some such wording. Instead of making hunters look like idiots, just call it what it is, an additional resident bird allowed in the limit, not a mistake bird.

Well said


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Could be the best thing that ever happened to those early spoonies.


that's funny

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Originally Posted By: Sniper John
We know it is really a "bonus" bird to us and most hunters are going to take advantage of that, but that is not how the anti hunters are going to spin it and that is not how those bird watchers on the fence are going to see it. It would be better to add to the limit "and one of which can be a Wood Duck, Tree Duck, Mallard, Shoveler or some such wording. Instead of making hunters look like idiots, just call it what it is, an additional resident bird allowed in the limit, not a mistake bird.

I would bet money this is how it will be worded in the rule book. Just because a magazine article called it a mistake bird for the purpose of their article doesnt mean the law book will read that way.

And Ill say it again, an extra 9-14 days during september just means 9-14 days less during the regular season. It will not hurt anything except making people here jealous we cant shoot one big duck during teal season. I know I would love to shoot that one wood duck that always seems to taunt me by fling too close knowing I cant bust his a$$ yet.


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I like spoonie, his humor is dryer than my duck lease.
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Originally Posted By: ishootspoonies
Originally Posted By: Sniper John
We know it is really a "bonus" bird to us and most hunters are going to take advantage of that, but that is not how the anti hunters are going to spin it and that is not how those bird watchers on the fence are going to see it. It would be better to add to the limit "and one of which can be a Wood Duck, Tree Duck, Mallard, Shoveler or some such wording. Instead of making hunters look like idiots, just call it what it is, an additional resident bird allowed in the limit, not a mistake bird.

I would bet money this is how it will be worded in the rule book. Just because a magazine article called it a mistake bird for the purpose of their article doesnt mean the law book will read that way.

And Ill say it again, an extra 9-14 days during september just means 9-14 days less during the regular season. It will not hurt anything except making people here jealous we cant shoot one big duck during teal season. I know I would love to shoot that one wood duck that always seems to taunt me by fling too close knowing I cant bust his a$$ yet.



I have seen you shoot at wood ducks. you cant seem to hit them during regular season. grin


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Maybe we could get a mistake deer soon too

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Ummm it was a joke about being able to shoot a "mistake Yankee". Lighten up people.


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Originally Posted By: Double-R
Originally Posted By: ishootspoonies
Originally Posted By: Sniper John
We know it is really a "bonus" bird to us and most hunters are going to take advantage of that, but that is not how the anti hunters are going to spin it and that is not how those bird watchers on the fence are going to see it. It would be better to add to the limit "and one of which can be a Wood Duck, Tree Duck, Mallard, Shoveler or some such wording. Instead of making hunters look like idiots, just call it what it is, an additional resident bird allowed in the limit, not a mistake bird.

I would bet money this is how it will be worded in the rule book. Just because a magazine article called it a mistake bird for the purpose of their article doesnt mean the law book will read that way.

And Ill say it again, an extra 9-14 days during september just means 9-14 days less during the regular season. It will not hurt anything except making people here jealous we cant shoot one big duck during teal season. I know I would love to shoot that one wood duck that always seems to taunt me by fling too close knowing I cant bust his a$$ yet.



I have seen you shoot at wood ducks. you cant seem to hit them during regular season. grin


Its because he doesn't pattern his gun...or lead his birds...or hunts a white lab...or uses a dog vest...or pattern his gun...

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Teal season north of I10 is a waste of days that we could have added on to our big duck season


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Originally Posted By: Trout-killer
Originally Posted By: Double-R
Originally Posted By: ishootspoonies
Originally Posted By: Sniper John
We know it is really a "bonus" bird to us and most hunters are going to take advantage of that, but that is not how the anti hunters are going to spin it and that is not how those bird watchers on the fence are going to see it. It would be better to add to the limit "and one of which can be a Wood Duck, Tree Duck, Mallard, Shoveler or some such wording. Instead of making hunters look like idiots, just call it what it is, an additional resident bird allowed in the limit, not a mistake bird.

I would bet money this is how it will be worded in the rule book. Just because a magazine article called it a mistake bird for the purpose of their article doesnt mean the law book will read that way.

And Ill say it again, an extra 9-14 days during september just means 9-14 days less during the regular season. It will not hurt anything except making people here jealous we cant shoot one big duck during teal season. I know I would love to shoot that one wood duck that always seems to taunt me by fling too close knowing I cant bust his a$$ yet.



I have seen you shoot at wood ducks. you cant seem to hit them during regular season. grin


Its because he doesn't pattern his gun...or lead his birds...or hunts a white lab...or uses a dog vest...or pattern his gun...

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Originally Posted By: Jeff Elder
Teal season north of I10 is a waste of days that we could have added on to our big duck season

I had an awesome teal season last year on public land here in north texas. just seemed to be lucky considering everyone elses bad luck, Isnt there a law that keeps us from hunting into February due to the mating habits???


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Originally Posted By: Merican duck hunter
Isnt there a law that keeps us from hunting into February due to the mating habits???


IDK, but there is an unwritten law that keeps me from mating before February due to hunting habits...


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Teal season north of I10 is a waste of days that we could have added on to our big duck season

I had an awesome teal season last year on public land here in north texas. just seemed to be lucky considering everyone elses bad luck, Isnt there a law that keeps us from hunting into February due to the mating habits???


Yes there is a law. Migratory bird act of 1918, and yes some years north TX is good for Teal, but year in year out south TX is better. I would rather have no Teal and no split in the north zone, but that will never happen just like the bonus bird will not happen here.


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Originally Posted By: Jeff Elder
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Teal season north of I10 is a waste of days that we could have added on to our big duck season

I had an awesome teal season last year on public land here in north texas. just seemed to be lucky considering everyone elses bad luck, Isnt there a law that keeps us from hunting into February due to the mating habits???


Yes there is a law. Migratory bird act of 1918, and yes some years north TX is good for Teal, but year in year out south TX is better. I would rather have no Teal and no split in the north zone, but that will never happen just like the bonus bird will not happen here.

Im not debating whether south texas is better or not because without a doubt it is for teal. But I do kinda enjoy the split. Then again I don't do it for a living like you and the other guides on here so I can see how yall would like those extra 10 days or whatever during the split.


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Originally Posted By: Jeff Elder
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Teal season north of I10 is a waste of days that we could have added on to our big duck season

I had an awesome teal season last year on public land here in north texas. just seemed to be lucky considering everyone elses bad luck, Isnt there a law that keeps us from hunting into February due to the mating habits???


Yes there is a law. Migratory bird act of 1918, and yes some years north TX is good for Teal, but year in year out south TX is better. I would rather have no Teal and no split in the north zone, but that will never happen just like the bonus bird will not happen here.



Jeff, Migratory Bird Treaty Act doesn't prevent us from hunting later, but it does give the Secretary of the Interior the authority to tell us when we can

"pursue, hunt, take, capture, kill, attempt to take, capture or kill, possess, offer for sale, sell, offer to purchase, purchase, deliver for shipment, ship, cause to be shipped, deliver for transportation, transport, cause to be transported, carry, or cause to be carried by any means whatever, receive for shipment, transportation or carriage, or export, at any time, or in any manner, any migratory bird, included in the terms of this Convention . . . for the protection of migratory birds . . . or any part, nest, or egg of any such bird." (16 U.S.C. 703)

Then (as I'm sure you know) the feds set the framework for each flyway every year, and send that out to the states. This year the framework for the Central Flyway looked like this,

"Ducks, Mergansers, and Coots

Outside Dates: Between the Saturday nearest September 24 (September 21) and the last Sunday in January (January 26).
Hunting Seasons

High Plains Mallard Management Unit (roughly defined as that portion of the Central Flyway which lies west of the 100th meridian): 97 days. The last 23 days must run consecutively and may start no earlier than the Saturday nearest December 10 (December 7).Show citation box
Remainder of the Central Flyway: 74 days."






Long story short, it is a regulation, not a law, and can be changed at the whim of the Secretary, or whatever committee that he delegates to. They do allow duck hunting into February, and Arkansas takes advantage of it for the youth season. The youth season is allowed to be two days within 14 days of the beginning or end of season, and AR puts it at the end.

These regulations can be changed, many are changed every year based on biological data, and some are changed after a lot of complaining (the September teal limit that changed this year is a great example).


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