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Where did they go?
#4974053
02/14/14 06:49 PM
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JHOG
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I'm hearing from a lot of hunters that there has been a drastic drop or dent in the hog population over the last several months. People not seeing as many on game cameras all over the state. Save some for me when I get down there ok guys/gals. 
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Re: Where did they go?
[Re: JHOG]
#4974282
02/14/14 08:46 PM
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rustedspurs4
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I'm still seeing quite a few up here. Just my neck of the woods though. Pigs travel a lot, give em time, they'll be back around.
“There are two spiritual dangers in not owning a farm. One is the danger of supposing that breakfast comes from the grocery, and the other that heat comes from the furnace.” Aldo Leopold.
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Re: Where did they go?
[Re: JHOG]
#4974314
02/14/14 09:13 PM
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redchevy
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We always see fewer during/after gun season is over.
I attribute it too most people don't feed year round so there are more food sources available that spreads them out. Also there are much more hunters in the field and they get shot more often when they show themselves so they stay low for a while. I have no concern that they have gone anywhere or that hunting season has had much affect on the population.
They will be back in force.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Where did they go?
[Re: JHOG]
#4974519
02/14/14 11:21 PM
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Double Naught Spy
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Hogs are quite mobile and will move away from pressure. Don't be fooled into believing that the hog population had dropped.
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Re: Where did they go?
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02/15/14 01:13 AM
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Franklin517
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Re: Where did they go?
[Re: JHOG]
#4974723
02/15/14 01:52 AM
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Wilhunt
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They are most likely feeding at night.
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Re: Where did they go?
[Re: JHOG]
#4974777
02/15/14 02:20 AM
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panther89
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Hogs are always moving from food source to food source, after deer season usually no one feeds. And hogs spread out in looking for food and water. But give them time they will be back. Just need to be their when they do come back
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Re: Where did they go?
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#4974817
02/15/14 02:36 AM
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Revoman
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I've only seen one hog out and none at my feeder. They will be back. Heck of an acorn crop east of us so I'm thinking they may be there. Neighbors have been flying their ranches putting a whammy on them too. Helicopter was flying again yesterday.
Call'm an Kill'm
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Re: Where did they go?
[Re: JHOG]
#4974858
02/15/14 02:59 AM
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JThoele
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I don't buy any of this "you can't dent the hog population" propaganda. Hunters, trappers, and land owners "waging a war" on hogs have them dwindling in numbers. This isn't an observed localized trend in lack of activity on a single game cam and feeder, I have access to hunt hogs by both ownership and or permission of thousands of acres across various regions of the state and in Oklahoma. They just aren't there like 2 years ago. Even on large properties with ample food and water supply and low hunting pressure. To this I often hear the argument, "they have cyclic territory patterns" or "they must have moved next door", but neighbors and fellow property owners in the same region, county are in agreeance of seeing a decline in hog activity. Many land owner's are saying mission accomplished, but I am very disapointed to see them go. If you are blessed to be on property swarming with pigs and think I am crazy, kudos to you, but I fear for a bleak future for feral hog populations overall.
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Re: Where did they go?
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#4974869
02/15/14 03:04 AM
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Shawheel
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I think property owners and farmers would be thrilled if this was true, but I'm not so sure.
I hump the wild to take it all in, there is no bag limit on happiness. -Ted Nugent
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Re: Where did they go?
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#4974902
02/15/14 03:24 AM
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Chris001
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Their could be some truth to this decline in the hog population........Im no scientist and sure dont study the movement of hogs, BUT fish do get over fished in certain areas and you see a decline in a certain species of fish. I know, fish and hogs......Just using fish as an example. Hogs open season 24/7, its got to be haveing an impact on them. thats just my 2 centavos!!! I hope its not true cause i sure love to hunt the little critters......when i can find them.
Chris
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Re: Where did they go?
[Re: Chris001]
#4974935
02/15/14 03:45 AM
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dfwroadkill
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EVERYTHING considered, we see less hogs now than we did a couple of years ago. I almost never see them during the day anymore. Not making a statement either way, just what I have observed.
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Re: Where did they go?
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#4974990
02/15/14 04:19 AM
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altez
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Saw about 4 groups last weekend, probably a total of 100+ hogs mostly at night though.
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Re: Where did they go?
[Re: JHOG]
#4975015
02/15/14 04:42 AM
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JThoele
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I fear in a few generations that feral hogs (as well as many other wildlife species) will "go the way of the buffalo", so to say, if harvest practices aren't more conservatively managed. I know hogs pose such a huge debate with many a landowner ready to say good riddance and welcome their extinction if possible, but as others have mentioned, I will be very saddened if my kid's only experience hog hunting through the faded photos and campfire hand-me-down tales of the "good old days" killing them dozens at a time. Sound far fetched to some, but it is exactly how the old timers lament on the vanishing of the east and central Texas quail population.
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Re: Where did they go?
[Re: JThoele]
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02/15/14 05:32 AM
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TreeBass
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I don't buy any of this "you can't dent the hog population" propaganda. Hunters, trappers, and land owners "waging a war" on hogs have them dwindling in numbers. This isn't an observed localized trend in lack of activity on a single game cam and feeder, I have access to hunt hogs by both ownership and or permission of thousands of acres across various regions of the state and in Oklahoma. They just aren't there like 2 years ago. Even on large properties with ample food and water supply and low hunting pressure. To this I often hear the argument, "they have cyclic territory patterns" or "they must have moved next door", but neighbors and fellow property owners in the same region, county are in agreeance of seeing a decline in hog activity. Many land owner's are saying mission accomplished, but I am very disapointed to see them go. If you are blessed to be on property swarming with pigs and think I am crazy, kudos to you, but I fear for a bleak future for feral hog populations overall. I disagree. In 2010-2011 I had so many hogs during daylight that my stand was dubbed the "hog stand", to the point I had issues driving or walking out of my area. 2011-2012 I saw very few during the day, and only two shot opportunities, but the neighbors a few miles down the road (who never had hogs until now) complained they were overrun by hogs. 2012-2013 I had several opportunities with hogs, groups up to 30 seen, and several harvested. They move, they breed like rats, they are there, but you just can't see em 
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Re: Where did they go?
[Re: JThoele]
#4975160
02/15/14 12:38 PM
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Double Naught Spy
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I don't buy any of this "you can't dent the hog population" propaganda. Hunters, trappers, and land owners "waging a war" on hogs have them dwindling in numbers. This isn't an observed localized trend in lack of activity on a single game cam and feeder, I have access to hunt hogs by both ownership and or permission of thousands of acres across various regions of the state and in Oklahoma. They just aren't there like 2 years ago. Even on large properties with ample food and water supply and low hunting pressure. To this I often hear the argument, "they have cyclic territory patterns" or "they must have moved next door", but neighbors and fellow property owners in the same region, county are in agreeance of seeing a decline in hog activity. Many land owner's are saying mission accomplished, but I am very disapointed to see them go. If you are blessed to be on property swarming with pigs and think I am crazy, kudos to you, but I fear for a bleak future for feral hog populations overall. Dwindling like the rat population? LOL. I have seen more roadkilled hogs in the last year than I have seen in the previous 10 years is going to my hunting places. I also killed more hogs last year than in the previous 5 years, combined. Ebb and flow, crash and rebound of r-selected populations such as rabbits, rats, hogs, etc. isn't uncommon. In some areas, it can be patterned and modeled and even predicted. Anybody saying "mission accomplished" is a fool.
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Re: Where did they go?
[Re: JHOG]
#4975223
02/15/14 01:53 PM
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Revoman
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You lay off the hogs one year and the explosion will happen all over again. Hogs are kind of like coyotes, they are survivalist. You can't kill them all and they will eat anything. I miss seeing and shooting so many hogs like last year but I also know the damage they do. Bring out the whirlly birds and lets go shootin. 
Call'm an Kill'm
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Re: Where did they go?
[Re: Revoman]
#4975456
02/15/14 04:19 PM
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Inpursuit
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On my place here in the Hill Country they tend to come and go depending on temperature and the availability of water. When it is hot they move out but the San Saba river bottoms will be crawling. We breath a sigh of relief but just as soon as rain comes or cooler temps return so do they. They really are a problem for farmers and ranchers. There is nothing like driving a tractor across your field and dropping a front wheel off into a hole they have caused. Baling Sudan can be quite interesting after they have tilled your field. I was driving by a neighbors place one evening and the ground looked like it was crawling with ants they were so thick but I hadn't seen any for a few weeks. They did come back.
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Re: Where did they go?
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#4976191
02/16/14 03:23 AM
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Beckett
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Plenty around Bonham. Shot more in last 3 months than in the two years prior.
Also, lots of hogs moving into West Texas around Eldorado (1 Hour South of San Angelo.) Never had them before and they started showing up heavy about a year ago. Very adaptable little critters.
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Re: Where did they go?
[Re: JHOG]
#4976280
02/16/14 04:52 AM
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Hard_ware
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They can be gotten rid of? Well none of the one I have killed have come back to life.
Now will they ever come back? you bet they will
When will they come back? depends how many miles you have cleared them out of and what food/shelter sources they have to hold up on before they move back to your property
How long will they stay? hopefully forever in my heart as they make great BBQ But the bullets I shoot seem to get rid of them faster then they can reproduce, the ones that get away are the problem so don't let them get away.
This year looks bleaker then last year's few hogs for the 1000's of acres I have access to. But given time and safe haven they will reproduce and rebound in fields far away and make the journey back to the killing fields I have permission to hunt.
As night hunting equipment is cheaper and cheaper more hogs will fall, hopefully no more accidents at night. This will be bad for night hunters if laws are changed to protect the stupid's like always. The stupid gene is alive and well and laws will be passed to protect it.
Hogs are a cash crop for some and problems for others, so a balance will happen in the future as more successful night hunters do the deed.
Hopefully those that don't want them can get with those that can get rid of them and a yin-yang will be achieved.
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Re: Where did they go?
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#4976471
02/16/14 02:11 PM
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1860.colt
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keep your head held high & your powder dry 
i'm postaddic
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Re: Where did they go?
[Re: JThoele]
#4976476
02/16/14 02:13 PM
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colt45-90
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I don't buy any of this "you can't dent the hog population" propaganda. Hunters, trappers, and land owners "waging a war" on hogs have them dwindling in numbers. This isn't an observed localized trend in lack of activity on a single game cam and feeder, I have access to hunt hogs by both ownership and or permission of thousands of acres across various regions of the state and in Oklahoma. They just aren't there like 2 years ago. Even on large properties with ample food and water supply and low hunting pressure. To this I often hear the argument, "they have cyclic territory patterns" or "they must have moved next door", but neighbors and fellow property owners in the same region, county are in agreeance of seeing a decline in hog activity. Many land owner's are saying mission accomplished, but I am very disapointed to see them go. If you are blessed to be on property swarming with pigs and think I am crazy, kudos to you, but I fear for a bleak future for feral hog populations overall. pardon the pun...hogwash
hold on Newt, we got a runaway
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Re: Where did they go?
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02/16/14 02:58 PM
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Vern1
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Here in CenTex, we got a good bit of undergrowth due to some rain in Oct-Dec - FINALLY! They don't have to come out in the open where we can see them as there is plenty of food in the woods and thickets and low brush provides good cover. The ground is soft so they can root around easier while under cover. The ground is damp so small showers will make lots of mudholes to lay up in.
I know the pigs are out there as I see tracks, sign and hear them from time to time. There has been exactly 1 pig on my game cameras that visited each one of my feeders on one night in the last two weeks.
Therefore, they must not be here because I haven't seen them......um..yeah! They just hide as good as they need to in order to survive....
Last edited by Vern1; 02/16/14 03:00 PM.
Cheers, Vern1 Texans since The Old 300 in 1824 NRA Lifetime Member
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Re: Where did they go?
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02/16/14 03:20 PM
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1860.colt
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 hog hunten has changed since the dark-ages whin i began, yha, with all these fancy new toys, hogs dont stand a chance. while they have lurned to adapt, attacking under the cover of darkness, night vission & thermo have made a dent. on the big scale of ranches & farming the eye in the sky has helped in their demis. the hogs are held up in the thick & hard ta reach areas were man refuses ta go, & the hog doggers step up ta the challange  me i'm postaddic 
i'm postaddic
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Re: Where did they go?
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#4976578
02/16/14 03:28 PM
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HuntTXhogs
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The hog drought continues on my place out in Stephens Co.
Checked 3 game cams and no sign. Hunted two locations last night and no sign.
This makes going on 4 months with no sightings.
Can somebody post a picture of what a hog looks like???
I fear I may need to change my forum name to "Would Like to HuntTXhogs"
As I described previously elsewhere, looking at the 2014 THF hog kill thread as a baseline, it would appear numbers are down...
I have a plethora of night hunting devices now and limited/reduced opportunities to use it - - - unfortunately the raccoons do not pose such a challenge and therefore I wait to see how the rest of the year plays out.
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