You win, I have no idea how we darn near killed them to extinction with blk powder and open sights

If you have to shoot over 400 hell 300 fact is its probably because you want to, including the one I shot this year because it was getting hot and didn't want to make a mile circle.

I have both and will say that the 708 is more versatile for chasing big game.
243 is fine for game up to deer size but I would go 708 for more versatility if larger game might be a possibility.

You said it.

Yelp I said it, I'll say it again when I pick up my stinky goat from taxi in a few months too.

The elk meat I ate tonight was delicious.

Lol, lol, funny and some what well played except I only hunt elk with stick and string, I'm not into the just shooting elk, if I can't call them in close I don't want them

So apples and oranges, but do enjoy your elk.

Most elk does taste good

I wonder why the preference? There likely isn't much difference with on game performance between the two.

You ever hunt an Eland?

The 140 is a better all-around bullet for plains game.

Eland is a big animal, and on my list for my next trip, along with Cape and Leopard.

Thats pretty cool. Looks like a spine shot. Boom. . . . . . animal folds.

That would be some pretty darn fun hunting!

Bobo why does everyone always have to agree with you to be right?

I can't see it making any difference with a Barnes bullet. If it were a cup and core type bullet I could come more to understanding.

There is really no valid argument to this. It's just fact.

You get above .243 caliber and stay 400 and under for deer sized game-caliber choice just becomes personal preference.

I am sure deeper penetration, however either leaves two holes in my mind. The only animal larger she will harvest larger than the zebra she has already taken will be the eland, unless she cons me into the giraffe. . With the tougher plains game and the size of he Eland I can see the 140's having an advantage.

My thought? Pretty poor hunters if can't get closer than 688 to a cow elk. Especially using a .243. Just another "Hey y'all, watch this!" video. Wonder how many they wounded?

The point was that a .243 is a viable cartridge in long range situations...The rest is lost to you...

They don't, but don't shun a caliber because you soley think you need a high BC bullet to kill an animal thats not exactly a heavy weight or armor plated. Now if he wants to go shoot pronghorn at ultra long distance then ya pick another caliber, another scope and another rifle configuration.

You don't have to be a long range hunter to hunt antelope, is my point

Nothing is lost on me. Just because someone kills an animal at with a certain caliber does not make it a "viable cartridge" for that application. A .243 is not a viable cartridge for an elk at 688 yards. It should not be used for such an application. Period.

Quick Google check shows 45 inches of drop and 850 foot pounds of energy with 100 grain bullet at 500 yards. No telling how much that falls off at 688. Ridiculous.

In my mind truly anything much over three yards on animal is an unnecessary shot, great to shoot long range, ethically as a hunter 688 yard shots I have to question. If you want to shoot 688 yards find a non living target just my thoughts on long range shooting.

No idea how many holes in my mind, but I'm pretty sure it's shot.

Basically mine too. But in fairness I have to leave room in discussion for the 2% skilled/disciplined enough to do it with the proper caliber and equipment.

Problem is: every Tom,Dick, and Harry thinks they are in that 2%.

The .243 for elk at 688 is so ridiculous it does not merit discussion. Yet many will discuss it.

I can understand it to a certain extent if the terrain offers no way to approach. Even under those circumstances the shooter should be well prepared for the type of shot.

All if that thought typically goes out the window if it is pig's or coyotes though.

Looks to me like that video was made as a advertisement for Greybull......and every time that video gets posted somewhere their company name is right there for everyone to check out.