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12/10/13 02:42 PM
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tdwchoctaw
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My Dad has a Rem 243 that when he went to load one of the shells went into the barrel and we can't get it out, bolt want grag it and it want fire either?! And yes we checked to make sure it was the cal bullet too. Why would it do that?!
Tammie The Lord is my Sheppard 
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12/10/13 02:46 PM
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The bullet is jammed into the rifling or the headspacing of the shoulder of the brass is too long for the chamber. Pull the bolt out, get a one piece cleaning rod, put the butt of the rifle on the floor, cleaning rod in the muzzle and drop it. Eye protection, and don't have any body part over the muzzle. Inspect the bullet for rifling marks when it comes out.
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12/10/13 02:48 PM
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Is he shooting reloads? Brass may have expanded from reloading it too many times.
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12/10/13 02:49 PM
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Sounds like it's the wrong casing for that caliber. Did you try other shells from the same box?
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12/10/13 02:55 PM
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The bullet is jammed into the rifling or the headspacing of the shoulder of the brass is too long for the chamber. Pull the bolt out, get a one piece cleaning rod, put the butt of the rifle on the floor, cleaning rod in the muzzle and drop it. Eye protection, and don't have any body part over the muzzle. Inspect the bullet for rifling marks when it comes out. It is the same bullets that he has used for a long time and no they are not reloads. And I was wondering why it would that because it is not a reload... thanks
Tammie The Lord is my Sheppard
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12/10/13 02:57 PM
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Sounds like it's the wrong casing for that caliber. Did you try other shells from the same box? we checked to make sure it was the correct cal. and no we have not got it out to the barrel yet...just wanted to know why it would do that and it is not a reload.
Tammie The Lord is my Sheppard
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12/10/13 02:58 PM
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Is he shooting reloads? Brass may have expanded from reloading it too many times. No sir not a reload, thanks
Tammie The Lord is my Sheppard
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12/10/13 03:08 PM
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factory reject  it happens, i got rjected from the factory once. be safe. 
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12/10/13 03:12 PM
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The bullet is jammed into the rifling or the headspacing of the shoulder of the brass is too long for the chamber. Pull the bolt out, get a one piece cleaning rod, put the butt of the rifle on the floor, cleaning rod in the muzzle and drop it. Eye protection, and don't have any body part over the muzzle. Inspect the bullet for rifling marks when it comes out. ^this^ i have had it happen with two different brands of bullets while breaking the gun in. All guns are not made exactly the same, head spacing could be alittle off and the brand of bullet you have may have changed there factory spec and your gun was at the top end of that spec.
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12/10/13 03:55 PM
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How clean is The gun. could there be some rust or oil buildup in the chamber causing the case to stick? Any corrosion on the case?
Not firing in cold weather can be caused by old oil gumming up in the bolt causing the firing in not to have enough force to set off the primer. I have seen that in cold conditions, and is why dry silicon lube is in rifles I use for hunting in cold weather.
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12/10/13 08:59 PM
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50 lashes if you don't own a good, one piece cleaning rod.
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12/10/13 09:03 PM
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How clean is The gun. could there be some rust or oil buildup in the chamber causing the case to stick? Any corrosion on the case?
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12/10/13 09:22 PM
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One thing I haven't seen mentioned here. You mentioned it wouldn't fire, so I'm assuming that you got the bolt closed? If not, read below. If you got it closed, then forget the rest below.  Is the gun a 98 Mauser or Mauser style action... like a Winchester Model 70? You can't short-stroke a Mauser action. That is, you can't drop a round in the chamber and close the bolt. The extractor wont go up over the rim, and you'll just be hammering the round into the chamber with the extractor. Then you have to punch it out with a rod. These types of rifles have to be loaded from the magazine so that when the round comes up out of the mag, it comes up inside the extractor.
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12/10/13 09:53 PM
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One thing I haven't seen mentioned here. You mentioned it wouldn't fire, so I'm assuming that you got the bolt closed? If not, read below. If you got it closed, then forget the rest below. Is the gun a 98 Mauser or Mauser style action... like a Winchester Model 70? You can't short-stroke a Mauser action. That is, you can't drop a round in the chamber and close the bolt. The extractor wont go up over the rim, and you'll just be hammering the round into the chamber with the extractor. Then you have to punch it out with a rod. These types of rifles have to be loaded from the magazine so that when the round comes up out of the mag, it comes up inside the extractor. It is a Rem modle 700 243 and i tried several times to fire it and the firing pin did not mark, and that is correct the extractor will not go over the rim. When I get home I will do like has been suggested in a previous post to get a cleaning rod and push it out... Thanks for the info. and suggestions.
Tammie The Lord is my Sheppard
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12/10/13 10:23 PM
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If you don't want to take a chance of messing up your cleaning rod, pick up a length of brass rod or a wooden dowel(hardwood if possible) from the hardware store. Also, put a rag or towel in the action to catch the round when it exits the chamber. I have heard of a guy knocking one out and having it explode when the primer landed on the extractor hook. My prefered method is to put a shop rag in the action and then use a rubber-tipped blowgun and air pressure to pop it out of the chamber.
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12/10/13 10:38 PM
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Quit trying to fire a gun with a lodged bullet in the chamber (it not firing could be your guardian angel keeping you from blowing your face off) and remove it like it has been suggested.
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12/10/13 10:40 PM
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How clean is The gun. could there be some rust or oil buildup in the chamber causing the case to stick? Any corrosion on the case?
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