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 Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it? *DELETED*
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10/16/08 01:47 PM
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/16/08 01:51 PM
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Wood Ducks allday long is not realy that good since you can only shoot 2 a day. I would ask the guide what kind of #'s he is seeing of other ducks also. And I would also take the name of the lake off here it is frowned upon when you post a lake name on the open forum. 
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/16/08 02:37 PM
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any guide in East Texas should be able to put you on wood ducks any day of the week, ask him about other duck numbers
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/16/08 04:49 PM
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Caddo Lake? Texas or Oklahoma, 
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
[Re: BMowatt]
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10/17/08 01:44 AM
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I thought that was the purpose of forums... How are we as hunters supposed to find out how good the hunting is in different areas if we can't ask each other and be specific? I guess I don't understand the logic of not discussing a particular lake. I have discussed and seen many others discuss specific ranches and public lands. If I'm missing something here, somebody please inform me. Is this the general opinion of everybody on the forum?
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
[Re: JR]
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10/17/08 02:00 AM
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I thought that was the purpose of forums... How are we as hunters supposed to find out how good the hunting is in different areas if we can't ask each other and be specific? I guess I don't understand the logic of not discussing a particular lake. I have discussed and seen many others discuss specific ranches and public lands. If I'm missing something here, somebody please inform me. Is this the general opinion of everybody on the forum?
Just the migratory section. Let me explain so you will understand.
Say you find a good spot on a public lake and someone comes on here asking if it is a good lake to hunt and you answer yes.
Next weekend you go to this spot you scouted and found by driving and waking around and watching for birds only to find a group of guys sitting there and now your screwed. You ask how did yall find out about this area and they say someone posted it on the net so we came out and waited for gunfire and went to where most of it came from. thats how we knew it was a good area to hunt. Kinda suxs for you cause now cyber scouters took your spot you found just cause you said that lake was a good one to hunt by NAME. That is how cyber scouting works let someone else spend all the time looking for the good spots and then we will wait and see where the shots come from.
Kinda understand now? 
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/17/08 02:36 AM
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Thats how it is, nobody wants to see the name of the lake they hunt on here on the internet for all to see. If you want to know how good the hunting is on a lake, get out there and scout it.
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/17/08 03:37 AM
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Is this the general opinion of everybody on the forum?
No, ABSOLUTELY NOT!
I have enough confidence in my scouting and hunting ability that I do not consider anyone naming the lakes I hunt on a problem. Hang around and as always, you will see hunting reports and pictures of my hunts often with general area or lakes named. There are exceptions, mostly if the hunt was do to with information shared from another, a very small hunting area, or if I was someones guest. Most of the regulars that disagree with me have eventually come to "agree to disagree" with me. Some that strongly disagree with me, I have shared hunts with, and had no problems. Even TexasHeat and I who used to debate it to death, have made peace.
No matter how I feel, I am not going to try and sway you to one side or the other. There is no right or wrong answer. You are your own man, do what YOU feel is best and ignor those that disagree.
The family that has spatterdock, I have not met personally, but I have talked to them on the phone on more than one occassion and they seem like very nice people. I get the impression they know the lake intimately.
Your best bet for finding hunting conditions is going to be the manager for Caddo WMA which covers over 8000 acres of the lake. I got some help from her two years ago and found her extremly friendly and helpful. You should be able to get contact info on the TPWD site.
Good Luck if you go,
John
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/17/08 03:46 AM
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When i started spraying giant salvina on caddo billy showed me around he knows this lake like his own hand if i wanted to hunt caddo thats who id go with for sure.
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/17/08 04:30 AM
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I thought that was the purpose of forums... How are we as hunters supposed to find out how good the hunting is in different areas if we can't ask each other and be specific? I guess I don't understand the logic of not discussing a particular lake. I have discussed and seen many others discuss specific ranches and public lands. If I'm missing something here, somebody please inform me. Is this the general opinion of everybody on the forum?
I depends on what your definition of “General” is. Is 50% general? Fact of the matter is, 50% of this forum feels lake names should not be posted on the forum, where 40% think it's ok, and 10% really don’t care. The poll below shows this, those that select 1 to 3 think it is ok to name lakes, those that select 4 to 9 think you should not, and those that select 10 don’t care.
http://www.texashuntingforum.com/ubbthre...c=1&fpart=1
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/17/08 12:46 PM
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Wow another lake naming debate. Thank God that means the season must be near. So one more time with my way of thinking. If you want to name the lake you hunt, give GPS cordinates ect. then great. If you hunt with me and tell one person where we were hunting it will be the last time we hunt together, be it my spot or yours. I say I won't hunt your spot after I found out you named one of my spots because I don't hunt with the kind of person who would name a spot when taken as a guest by another. I consider those people thieves. You might as well be a Wal-Mart shoplifter because I rate those two the same. BTW I hate Wal-Mart shoplifters. I am absolutely apposed to the naming of locations. If you need help to get started then call me on the telephone, PM me or write me a letter. I can tell you how to find good duck hunting spots. I REPEAT---I AM A DUCK HUNTER AND I DO HELP OTHERS. Your not going to get a specific location but I will tell you what to look for and how to do your research before spending any money on fuel. I can teach you how to narrow your search so your results will be productive. If you try to bypass the work and ask me where to hunt this is what you will receive   
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
[Re: wal1809]
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10/17/08 02:09 PM
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Wow another lake naming debate. Thank God that means the season must be near. So one more time with my way of thinking. If you want to name the lake you hunt, give GPS cordinates ect. then great. If you hunt with me and tell one person where we were hunting it will be the last time we hunt together, be it my spot or yours. I say I won't hunt your spot after I found out you named one of my spots because I don't hunt with the kind of person who would name a spot when taken as a guest by another. I consider those people thieves. You might as well be a Wal-Mart shoplifter because I rate those two the same. BTW I hate Wal-Mart shoplifters.
I am absolutely apposed to the naming of locations. If you need help to get started then call me on the telephone, PM me or write me a letter. I can tell you how to find good duck hunting spots. I REPEAT---I AM A DUCK HUNTER AND I DO HELP OTHERS. Your not going to get a specific location but I will tell you what to look for and how to do your research before spending any money on fuel. I can teach you how to narrow your search so your results will be productive. If you try to bypass the work and ask me where to hunt this is what you will receive
Now, I believe this is the sentiment of MOST people!
I don't mind helping others as well...PM me or whatever....j
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/17/08 02:35 PM
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I think the best way is to have a few friends who each take a different area to scout and compare notes privately so that the group can go where they think the best opportunity will be.
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/17/08 03:55 PM
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/17/08 04:41 PM
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What is funny is the name of a lake will spawn all these "spot" and "gps" posts. The lake that spawned us to bully the guy and hijack his post is Caddo at over 26,000 acres, not including the 8000 WMA. To compare, the footprint of Carrollton is only 23,000 acres. That is not a "spot" sir in the general definition of a hunting spot, unless your hunting with a howitzer. Another lake that I keep no secret that I hunt, is Texoma at 75,000 acres, not including at least another 30,000 acres of WMA's, Wetland units, River, and, NWRs on it's boundaries. Texoma is smaller in footprint than Arlington, the third largest city in DFW. That is not a "spot" sir, unless your hunting with Tomahawk missles. For "you" to think that, and be angry because of, that hunters are going to converge on my spot, because I were to post that I took you to on a hunt to "Texoma" or "Caddo", is  . Trust me, everyone in Texas knows these Lakes exist. Everyone knows how to use a search engine. Go to Google and type in "Texoma Hunting". #1 is the corps hunting map. No offense meant, it is just I have hunted public waters all over Texas for 30 years, when the internet came, nothing has changed for me that would not have changed without internet forums. The only thing that I see that has changed, is that before the internet, non waterfowl hunters used to talk of duck hunting as the "gentleman's" sport. Now other hunters I meet who do not duck hunt, call duck hunters "arrogant". Not my opinion, just something I have noticed from campfire talk.
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/17/08 06:00 PM
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I made no secret that I hunted Lake Lewisville and Ray BoB exclusively last year before the split. Sometimes it was good, other times it really sucked. I concede that while I have posted the names of lakes in the past, I probably won't this year. Hunting at Ray Roberts after the split became unbearable last year. Way too many sky blastin' Donkey's who show up 10 min b4 legal and set up right on top of you and all the while wailing on a kazoo that would give any duck a migraine headache. I am not sure if my bad experience was the result of lake naming, but even if it only ruined one hunt for me- that is one too many. I will tell ya what region of Texas I hunt, North Texas and soon to be East Texas. If you want to come along sometime send me a PM.
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/17/08 07:09 PM
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And your view should be respected, no matter if you post the name of Lewisville, north Texas, or nothing at all. As southern gentlemen, we should be able to agree to disagree if we have different thoughts on this. Sure there should be some etiquette with times such as when the name of the lake is related to hunting with someone else or due to their help and they wish it to remain secret. Even I hunt one "lake" in Texas that I did not know I could hunt. That is until a forum member told me about it. I have never mentioned that lake by name in a post on this forum even though I personally think it no harm if I did. But Lake Lewisville and Texoma that I have been hunting off and on for 30 years, or Ray Bob where I was the only hunter representative at the ribbon cutting ceremony. I will unless it was a hunt where I was a guest, or similar situation. Public hunting means it is also public information. There are no secrets that these Lakes exist. All you have to do is type in "Caddo Lake Hunting" and you will find out many times more information than you would from any post mentioning a lake name on this forum. The guide service mentioned comes up number 3. Caddo WMA number 1. And OMG!, a gay hunting club Caddo lake hunting website about 6th. Do be careful JR, those Bayous can have a "Deliverance" look about them. Now a guy asking what kinds of ducks are on Caddo, who is going to hunt with a guide who advertises hunts on Caddo. That gentleman is doing no one any harm and using his post to start this is the worst post example I have seen yet to use as a springboard to start the annual lake naming debate that I enjoy so much.
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/17/08 07:20 PM
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can we at least agree to not name what part of the lake or access points we used to gain access to our spots? I know lakes will continue to be named as it continues to get closer to and throughout the season, but in my opinion the specifics should be left out.
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/17/08 07:33 PM
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That I think we have all been pretty much in near 100% agreement on that. We just like to debate it as if there are actual posts like that. That is why these "spot" arguements are so silly. It rarely if ever happens on this forum. But if your worried about someone finding out that Caddo Lake exists, you got a long fight against you. Just try and convince TPWD to remove all publications and websites that mention hunting or hunting regulations at Caddo WMA so you can have it all to yourself. They will think your crazy. But then in a world of crazy people, a sane person must seem crazy. 
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/17/08 07:55 PM
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But John, there have been actual posts like that. People get specific and tell the exact places they hunted, that would be ok if it was "their" spot only, but other people hunt there too. For example, earlier this year I had been hunting hogs in an awsome spot on public land that I found by taking the time to find it and the gas to get there. One friday night when I was getting my stuff ready for the next mornings hunt, I logged into the forum and lo and behold, some one had posted pics of a hog along with the lake name and the exact access point I had been hunting. It wasn't cool. You are right that everyone has access to the knowledge that hunting is allowed on these lakes, but whats wrong with letting people find their spots themselves instead of telling them exactly where to go ? Everyone knows that hunting pressure, especially during waterfowl season can ruin a spot, or a hunt. I don't know about you but I like there to be more birds than people in the places I hunt, especially when I spend the time to find the places I hunt and get up so early to be there. Now I firmly believe that we should be courteous of others who hunt the same areas on public landm but lets not tell the whole world the exact locations where we hunt.
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/17/08 08:28 PM
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That is just the way it is bro in todays internet age. You can't change it on the other forums unless JP wants to make a rule otherwise and enforce it. But from things JP has posted about it in the past, I don't think your going to see that happen anytime soon. Other forums are even more open than the Texas Hunting Forum. Google up the two texas public bowhunting related forums on the net and you would be amazed at the detailed info they post. And it is why I kinda say posting just the name (nothing more) of a large hunting area within a post is not going to harm anything in most cases because it is no secret to anyone with a computer that it exists. Due to todays public information internet age that is, not this forum.
But my statement was directed to posts on the migratory forum. Again, there have been few, if ever posts related to actual spots. That is with Spot being defined as this cove, that ramp, the west arm of a lake, etc. The few times there has been it was either a very green person to the internet and many of those were probably trolls too. This click bites harder on the hook than any forum I have ever been part of on the internet. Or a thin skinned disgruntled poster that is doing it out of spite when they took offense to the replys that always come from those perched in wait to pounce on every post that names a lake. But really, nameing a "spot" on the migratory forum beyond the name of a lake, just rarely happens here.
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/17/08 09:27 PM
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/17/08 10:25 PM
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That is just the way it is bro in todays internet age. But really, nameing a "spot" on the migratory forum beyond the name of a lake, just rarely happens here.
Some other forums in their infancy shared or talked about spots and each forum had a "click" of buddies. They learned the hard way back then, now there are more lurkers on lots of waterfowl forums and the attitude about naming lakes has seemed to spread across most waterfowl forums. Bring in Google Earth, get the name of a lake from a forum, if you know anything about ducks you will go west or north on most lakes or look for the major feeder rivers and creeks on a map. One visit to said lake and even if you don't kill a duck, you get to hear the shots, after the hunters leave, you go to that spot and find exactly where they were and now you are that much closer to the good areas. Next step is to get there the next morning at 1:00AM and "potlick" your "new" spot. "Cyber" and "Boom" scouting is a way of life now, you have to learn to live with it or change your gameplan. All public hunting land in Texas is available to any hunter, some work hard to find good spots and be successful, some are lazy and rely on information obtained via the net. With the information available today, nothing is sacred, I duck hunt alone or with 1 other on public now cause even if we are on the best spot, the "boom" scouters only hear a few shots and we I don't attract near the attention that a 4 to 6 man group does. I also have a lease for ducks, but I still love the challenge of hunting public. With the wrong attitude you will always be miserable hunting public ducks close to DFW, if you take that same attitude up a notch you could end up getting hurt or hurting someone else, all over a spot to hunt ducks. That's my yearly rant/feedback on this topic, I'll add more of my 2 cents next year! 
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Re: Caddo Lake Duck hunting. How is it?
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10/17/08 10:39 PM
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Honestly people are not learning that there are lakes near them from internet forums. They are found from looking at a map, because they live there, or from an internet search engine. Type in Dallas Texas Lakes in Google. Number one is this. http://www.town-mall.net/community/texas_lakes.html Spots on those lakes are not learned from this forum. Recent years history of posts on this forum just don't back up that accusation. There is so much information on the internet about each of those lakes and their individual hunting rules that anything that has ever been posted here is miniscule. Much of what we are encountering is population changes. Take Denton County which includes Lakes known to have lots of public hunters these days. 1980 143,126 1990 273,775 2000 432,976 2006 582,200 2007 599,350 Each new generation adds more and more hunters. The internet did not spawn them. Area growth did. And to think those 600,000 plus people in Denton county do not know that Lake Lewisville, or Ray Roberts exists until they read about it on some internet forum just does not make sense. Now we do know urbanization is one reason for hunter decline overall, but in an area where the population has increased many fold, you will see a concentration of hunters due to the fact that most hunters choose what lake to hunt due to driving distance. Again, not because they read the name of the lake on an internet forum. Most people have limited time and money. Meaning Denton County Duck hunters typically hunt Denton County Lakes because it is near them.
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