I don't know if this is old news or not but I just saw it yesterday morning while at the range. They have these posted all over the place so folks know an increase is coming.

I bet they lost quite a bit of business on the rifle range to the court-imposed .30 cal restriction.
Me and a friend would shoot out there twice a month developing loads but have only been once this year due to that restriction.
This and the shortage of ammo may have taken somewhat of a toll.
Then there is recouping the cost of the berm work.

A price increase was inevitable but still isn't bad if you spend a few hours there. Cheap admission for 2-3 hours entertainment IMO.

If they lose the caliber restriction, I'll continue to go there. If not, I won't.

I haven't been there in a while... are they still restricted to less than .30 cal?

WTH... I attend the sister range here in Leander (admittedly I'm going to Best of the West more these days). Wonder if that means they'll have a rate increase down here too? What's the deal on the 30 cal restriction in Garland? I hadn't heard anything about it. Not a huge shocker... even Best of the West is limited to 338 or less. Still sucks though.

There is a housing development about a mile downrange from the firing line. A couple of houses were hit with bullets a year ago, and they blame the range. Once guy even claims he was hit in the back with a .22lr round, and it had enough force to to penetrate.

I call BS, and bet that the rounds that hit the houses were fired from the creek area or someone in the dump shooting illegally. When the news story first ran, one of the news stations even showed a piece of brass lying in the neighborhood. Never seen a gun that throws brass a mile!

I'm not saying either way. But I have seen first hand the lack of responsibilty Garland shows with shooters. I have seen twice on seperate occasions shooters send rounds down range over the berm. One group of shooters had an AR-15 with NO sights on the gun standing and firing the rifle all over the place. Rounds were impacting the ground 50 yards in front, and some were going over the berm. I tried to stop them, and they emptied another mag. I had to go find a range officer (go find one, not flag him down) to tell them what was going on. They kicked them out. I have been muzzle cleared at the pistol bays twice, and threated to kick some dudes a$$ if he did it again. They run a very poor range, and I will not go there again.

Also, they did the trajectory data on the rounds that that hit the houses and the guy. It was in line and within reach of the range. Seeing it first hand, there's no BS here.

The .30 cal restriction is here to stay on that range.

While I was there yesterday I noticed that they've changed and reconfigured the rifle range. If you're facing the targets, they've taken about 10 lanes on the far left (closest to the shotgun range) and have converted them to pistol. That section isn't open yet but it's no surprise since the pistol range down on the far right side is generally the most congested.

They've also reconfigured the remaining rifle lanes with almost half of them having 50 yard targets (they're on the left closest to the new pistol range) and the rest at 100 yards like before. I think there are still a couple of 50/100 yard combo lanes left as well. They've also constructed proximity blinders (plywood on posts) on the rifle range near the shooting benches to only allow visibility of the targets and berm area down range. Though not impossible, you'd really have to work at overshooting the berm now or just be completely incompetent around firearms and start poking holes in the plywood.

The range officers are still as laid back as usual. In my humble opinion this is their greatest weakness and is such an easy one to fix. They need trained Range Safety Officers with a professional and proactive posture on the range. I'm not saying they need a bulldog drill instructor out there but they do need to tighten up a bit. What is there today is more like a good ol' boy club that will react to something if you complain. You have to look out for you and yours while you're there (which I do anyway at whatever range I'm at).

I did see them get VERY excited when during one of the cease fire times the range officer did a bench inspection and found a guy with steel case FMJ in his magazine. They called out the cavalry on that and all three employees waited for him to pack his stuff and they escorted him off of the property. It was obvious in their reaction that the range is one stray bullet incident away from getting shut down.

I'll still shoot there as long as they're open because it is very convenient for me. Most of my shooting is with rifle calibers under .30 anyway and the pistol range is still good to go. Works for me.

It may be within line and within reach, but what about the dump that sits in between? From my understanding, the dump sits at a higher elevation and the rounds would have travel through the dump to get to the houses.

There was no evidence that the rounds came from the range. If there was, I doubt the range would be operating today.

As far as safety, everyone on the range is responsible. You should have called for a cease fire and sent a runner for the RSO (although I agree that there should have been watching the range). You should have also reported the muzzle sweeping to a RSO so that could be remedied. However, being muzzle swept on a pistol range is not specific to Garland only...have seen it on many ranges. Many indoor ranges have a solid barrier in between each shooting position, so you don't even see that the guy next to you is sweeping you.

That place is a s... hole! Quit going there years ago after being swept numerous times with firearms. Range Officers are an F'n joke as well! Now a member of GPGC...could not be happier.

What does it mean to be muzzle cleared?

I'm pretty sure it means to have the gun pointed at you. I've always heard it called covering.

That's what a lot of guys gripes with shoulder holsters are, because of the dynamics of the way the holster is setup regardless of how you draw it, if there is someone behind you, you will be pointing your gun at them (covering them) at some point in your draw.

My guess is it is the same as being muzzle sweeped. Basicly some one swings the gun and the muzzle is pointed at you in the process.

Well that is exactly what I was trying to say LOL just couldn't get the words to mash correctly.

More and more, I hear stuff that makes me appreciate my LSG/range. I'm lucky to be a few blocks from such a nice place.

I like going to the Tac Pro Shooting Range. It is an hour long drive but I like the location and the facilities.

From what I understand, Eagle Peak is having a price increase as well.

So where is a decent place in Dallas Ft Worth to shoot 30 caliber rifles? Ideally I'd like to find a place that let's me shoot FMJ as a I have a LOT of that ammo laying around. Shooting SP/HP ammunition on a rifle range is just a waste of serious $$ for me.

Check out this site. It's a great reference for gun ranges in the DFW area, and lists all the places you can shoot FMJ:

http://gibsonoutpost.angelfire.com/

The price increase doesn't bother me because I'll never be back. The place is too crowded, safety is suspect and the .30 caliber restriction sucks. To top it off some of their range officers are jerks.

The past couple of times I have been there, it hasn't been crowded, probably because of the restrictions and lack of ammo availability.

I hear people say that their RO's are jerks, but I have never had an issue with them. For example, my son likes to shoot his M&P 15-22. Well, he had a brain fart and started to just do a mag dump...I let him do that sometimes when we are out at the lease. Needless to say, I had him stop and clear the firearm and I was all over his butt. The RO came down, saw that I was correcting the situation, gave me a thumbs up, and never said a word to me or my son.

Another time I was shooting an old Winchester pump action .22lr that wouldn't feed. One of the guys who was familiar with that particular firearm helped me troubleshoot it.

RO was inspecting ammo on my buddies bench to insure there was no FMJ. My buddy asked him to please replace the ammo in the same order it was removed because he was doing load development. RO went off telling my buddy he could look at any ammo he wanted and then the kicked my buddy off the range and revoked his range privileges. I won't say my buddy was an angel in the end, but was nothing less than respectful to start. The RO was way out of line and should have never escalated the issue like he did. Anyone that reloads knows that load development needs to be precise, so someone moving ammo around can screw up your work.

can't for the life of me figure why any person
would build or buy a house within any
proximity of a gun range, or airport, or
racetrack, etc. then complain about noise
or dangerous conditions, etc.
i knew someone who built a new house close
to the devil's bowl and did nothing but complain
about the noisy racecars and guns going off
at the range.

makes me think of the folks that buy 2 acres
out in the sticks then boo-hoo about the
manure smell and the road dust.

Buffalo Creek is a good place to shoot if your out in Van Zandt County east of Canton on Hwy 64, $50. membership. 300 yard rifle, handgun, Trap, 5-Stand and in process of putting in skeet.

Sure am glad we've got 80 acres of family land to shoot on. Sure it's an hour away, so I don't go as much as I'd like. But it's free, and I don't to worry about some yahoo going all tony Montoya.