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 Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
[Re: redchevy]
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05/16/13 08:22 PM
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So the question is, If there were no high fence ranches now, would hunters be killing numerous 170+bc bucks? Would the antler score still be about the same, say in S. Texas, as it was in the 50's and 60's?
I recall that the odds of taking a 200"bc trophy back then was one per 50,000. Has that ratio improved because of High fence ranches?
So how do hunters feel about having a better opportunity to get a BIG ONE even on a High Fence ranch or would they be just as happy with a little average one on a low fence ranch, just because it is conceived as more fair, WHY?
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
[Re: redchevy]
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05/16/13 08:27 PM
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If I spend dollars to sit on the first row on the 50 yards line, or in a suite, is the game any less enjoyable than sitting in the end zone?
Have fun and be blessed. No. But with HF it is not the same game.More akin to WWE than the NFL as a more appropriate analogy IMO. Yeah because those Hi fence deer are all waiting in line to jump on a plain an fly to Hawaii.. They aint going anywhere anyway ...if that were the case it's about the dumbest waste of money that a landowner would ever consider. Everyone cares too much about what their neighbors are shooting to be the case.
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
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05/16/13 08:51 PM
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So the question is, If there were no high fence ranches now, would hunters be killing numerous 170+bc bucks? Would the antler score still be about the same, say in S. Texas, as it was in the 50's and 60's?
I recall that the odds of taking a 200"bc trophy back then was one per 50,000. Has that ratio improved because of High fence ranches?
So how do hunters feel about having a better opportunity to get a BIG ONE even on a High Fence ranch or would they be just as happy with a little average one on a low fence ranch, just because it is conceived as more fair, WHY? Well lets see back in he 50' and 60's deer were decimated by as I am told by over hunting and screw worm. There was no supplemental feeding and something I frequently herd my grandfather say was the one with the spots are tenderer. You cant compare the two times.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
[Re: cameron00]
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05/16/13 09:29 PM
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I think we can all agree that HF hunting is better because you get bigger and better deer and that people that don't like HF hunting only have that opinion because they're bitter and petty and can't afford to hunt a HF?
Surely we can all agree on that, right men? I don't see anything work arguing there... Lol! No we can't agree on your first statement. It's one of the dumber ones in this thread.
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
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05/16/13 09:32 PM
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I am considering a steer hunt this year. Looking for grass fed and then maybe a couple of months of feed, no hormones or drugs though. More of a custom finishing feed job. Want it to be released from the pen though before the stalk. I gotcha covered what quality you want...standard, choice, prime? Well prime of course. Not interested in an exotic like a Wagyu though.  For the right price ill put you on a wild angus... 100% kill opportunity
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
[Re: Texas Hunting Guide 2010]
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05/16/13 09:34 PM
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So the question is, If there were no high fence ranches now, would hunters be killing numerous 170+bc bucks? Would the antler score still be about the same, say in S. Texas, as it was in the 50's and 60's?
I recall that the odds of taking a 200"bc trophy back then was one per 50,000. Has that ratio improved because of High fence ranches?
So how do hunters feel about having a better opportunity to get a BIG ONE even on a High Fence ranch or would they be just as happy with a little average one on a low fence ranch, just because it is conceived as more fair, WHY? Good Lord can you not read? Because one is hunting and one is shooting animals in a pen. Is it all about size of antlers to you HF guys? Is fair chase not a consideration in hunting anymore?Crap just buy a mount at an estate sale and hang it on the wall then.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
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05/16/13 09:37 PM
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I think we can all agree that HF hunting is better because you get bigger and better deer and that people that don't like HF hunting only have that opinion because they're bitter and petty and can't afford to hunt a HF?
Surely we can all agree on that, right men? I don't see anything work arguing there... Lol! No we can't agree on your first statement. It's one of the dumber ones in this thread. And the statements that follow the first are just as dumb. HF hunting does nothing for me. I'll take a free range 160 over any HF buck any day of the week. If you offered me a free HF I'd take it. if a big 200+ walks out with tag in his ear... DRT! I'm just saying my preference is quality, mature, low fence bucks.
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
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05/16/13 09:40 PM
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
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05/16/13 09:43 PM
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I am considering a steer hunt this year. Looking for grass fed and then maybe a couple of months of feed, no hormones or drugs though. More of a custom finishing feed job. Want it to be released from the pen though before the stalk. I gotcha covered what quality you want...standard, choice, prime? Well prime of course. Not interested in an exotic like a Wagyu though. For the right price ill put you on a wild angus... 100% kill opportunity Where was this one on the tastiest exotic topic? Sounds great to me!
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
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05/16/13 09:45 PM
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I'll take a free range 160 over any HF buck any day of the week. well dagum, me too! anyone know where i could find one?
If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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05/16/13 09:49 PM
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WOW. I'm a Green horn to this forum. I have hunted all over the world. Sad to hear the fighting and better than thou attitudes over LF vs HF. Man I hope Bowhunters vs Rifle hunters don't feel the same toward each other. If so the hunting industry is in trouble.
Lucky 7 Exotic Ranch located in Eden, Tx. Well managed self sustaining herds roaming our 3,000 acre ranch. First Class Lodging, Ranch style meals and qualified guides. 30+ species.
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
[Re: LuckyHunter]
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05/16/13 09:52 PM
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WOW. I'm a Green horn to this forum. I have hunted all over the world. Sad to hear the fighting and better than thou attitudes over LF vs HF. Man I hope Bowhunters vs Rifle hunters don't feel the same toward each other. If so the hunting industry is in trouble. You aint seen nothing yet!!  Better put your man panties on.
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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05/16/13 09:53 PM
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So the question is, If there were no high fence ranches now, would hunters be killing numerous 170+bc bucks? Would the antler score still be about the same, say in S. Texas, as it was in the 50's and 60's?
I recall that the odds of taking a 200"bc trophy back then was one per 50,000. Has that ratio improved because of High fence ranches?
So how do hunters feel about having a better opportunity to get a BIG ONE even on a High Fence ranch or would they be just as happy with a little average one on a low fence ranch, just because it is conceived as more fair, WHY? Good Lord can you not read? Because one is hunting and one is shooting animals in a pen. Is it all about size of antlers to you HF guys? Is fair chase not a consideration in hunting anymore?Crap just buy a mount at an estate sale and hang it on the wall then. Do all the guys bashing HF hunt feeders if so not a helluva lot of difference wait at feeder shoot deer I don't hunt wt in HF as matter fact I have only shot one HF critter but for the exotics I have no real issue with it and I really could care less how anyone hunts if they enjoy it and keep the tradition alive I really couldn't give a damn how they choose to do it.
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
[Re: jshouse]
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05/16/13 09:53 PM
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I'll take a free range 160 over any HF buck any day of the week. well dagum, me too! anyone know where i could find one? Probably @ your feeder this year in July-Sept...until he goes on vacation until march.
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
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WOW. I'm a Green horn to this forum. I have hunted all over the world. Sad to hear the fighting and better than thou attitudes over LF vs HF. Man I hope Bowhunters vs Rifle hunters don't feel the same toward each other. If so the hunting industry is in trouble. You aint seen nothing yet!! Better put your man panties on.  For sure!
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
[Re: BMD]
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05/16/13 09:54 PM
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WOW. I'm a Green horn to this forum. I have hunted all over the world. Sad to hear the fighting and better than thou attitudes over LF vs HF. Man I hope Bowhunters vs Rifle hunters don't feel the same toward each other. If so the hunting industry is in trouble. You aint seen nothing yet!! Better put your man panties on. For sure! 
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
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05/16/13 09:58 PM
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
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LF is only harder because it's more difficult to manage the lease hunter.
Lucky 7 Exotic Ranch located in Eden, Tx. Well managed self sustaining herds roaming our 3,000 acre ranch. First Class Lodging, Ranch style meals and qualified guides. 30+ species.
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
[Re: LuckyHunter]
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05/16/13 09:59 PM
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We are doomed...
Folks around here argue over ethical shots on pigs.
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
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Haven't had a "dogs crossing fence and scaring deer" threads in a while.
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
[Re: Rustler]
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We are doomed...
Folks around here argue over ethical shots on pigs. And magic bullets don't forget the magic bullets
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
[Re: BMD]
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05/16/13 10:00 PM
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This poor old dead horse must be a Zombie. You just can't kill it. I know of HF ranches where most that bad mouth them would get lost and probably sh*t themselves to death crying for momma before they could find their way out. Most that are bad mouthing HF were probably born on pavement and have never even hunted LF without a guide.
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
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05/16/13 10:01 PM
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We are doomed...
Folks around here argue over ethical shots on pigs. No such thing as an ethical shot on pigs...they're just shots whether in the rooter or tooter
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
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LF is only harder because it's more difficult to manage the lease hunter.
Yep that is 90% of it for sure! We have great guys and good property and 150's or better go down every year
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Re: HIGH FENCE HUNTING or Low Fence Hunting / which is better
[Re: BMD]
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We are doomed...
Folks around here argue over ethical shots on pigs. And magic bullets don't forget the magic bullets ++++++++++++++++++P++++++++++++
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