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 Good enough red dot
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04/24/13 02:38 PM
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Korean Redneck
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I have, essentially, a 9mm carbine. It has a full mono rail and I feel a good red dot system will be the best option. I'm fairly certain I prefer the Aimpoint type and not the Eotech type. The problem is I can't really afford either. So what is a good alternative to the Aimpoint? I'm willing to pay up to an absolute max of $200 for the red dot and mounting system. I know you have to pay some money in order to aovoid getting carp like ncstar. After all, it has to hadle a moderate amoutn of recoil. Here are the 2 front runners from what I've found looking around, but I don't have any experience with either. Honestly, i don't have much experience with red dots in general. http://swfa.com/Vortex-StrikeFire-Red-Dot-Sights-C1462.aspxhttp://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Optics-TRS-32-Riflescope-Tactical/dp/B00ABP3XNUI think I'm leaniong one way biut I want to know what other peopl's thoughts are. Any thoughts, experiences or opinions are appreciated.
Last edited by Korean Redneck; 04/24/13 04:14 PM.
I'm a dude who likes long barrels!
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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04/24/13 02:47 PM
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I've picked up two used UltraDots from Ebay. Once's in decent condition, the other is more beat up. But they both work perfectly. I think UltraDot is the class of the field in the niche you describe.
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Re: Good enoh red dot
[Re: Korean Redneck]
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04/24/13 02:54 PM
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I bought a Vortex strikefire for my Mini-14 and have been very happy with it. It came with high rings for mounting on an AR platform. On the Mini, this made it difficult to get a good cheek weld. It worked okay...but I didn't like how it felt.
I bought a low ring from vortex to replace the high ring and that made a world of difference. Holds zero, clear sight picture. The red dot is a little large for any distance/precision shooting but for defensive use and fast target acquisition inside of 50 yds it is just about perfect.
I've used an aimpoint on my service M-4 and don't really see any benefit for the large price difference. Plus, the vortex comes with flip up lense caps and a magnifier. I don't really care for the magnifier but it serves its purpose well enough.
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened." Winston Churchill
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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04/24/13 03:27 PM
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They have a Bushnell at Wal-mart that looks like an Acog.$179. I have not used one but thought about trying it.
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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04/24/13 08:29 PM
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I've never heard of Ultradot. What kind of rifle do you have it on?
I'm a dude who likes long barrels!
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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04/24/13 08:33 PM
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Get you a $ 40 fake eotech on ebay made in china! My buddy has one. Looks like the real deal!
However looks good from far...and far from good!
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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04/25/13 01:51 AM
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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04/25/13 03:17 PM
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Last edited by ccoker; 04/25/13 03:18 PM.
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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04/25/13 05:24 PM
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You need to be looking at Primary Arms
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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04/25/13 05:39 PM
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I got an Ultradot on a mini 14 tactical....great for hogs, just over 100$ for mine and well worth it, got it thru Midway USA.
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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04/25/13 10:00 PM
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Check out the Bushnell TRS-25. VERY good quality & priced well under $200.00 with mount.
www.deltaoutdoorsman.com -- Assault & Tactical backpacks & shooting gear! Eberlestock packs, First Aid, SHTF / Bug Out Bags, Pulsar Night Vision, Brute Coolers, etc. ceylon@deltaoutdoorsman.com. (901)334-6808
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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04/25/13 10:45 PM
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Did you read the comments under that article? 
Upon us all, upon us all, a little rain must fall
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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04/26/13 12:48 AM
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Yeah
They are responding to the contest in my signature below!
Whoever comes up with the most ludicrous testimonial wins a Redfield Counterstrike!
Just a fun contest we are running with Leupold.
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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04/26/13 02:28 AM
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I've got an NCStar scope I use for pig hunting on my AR. I've taken it on and off several times (two scopes for two loads) and it always returns to zero. I bounces around in the truck, sits across my lap bouncing around on the ATV and I've knocked the gun over a couple of times banging the scope around. It's held up. Surprised me, but it's still there and pointing straight.
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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04/26/13 01:26 PM
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Upon us all, upon us all, a little rain must fall
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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05/05/13 03:35 PM
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do any of these work like the E.O. Tech?? where dot dosnt have to be centered??
Originally Posted By: cody
...give it to a homeless guy...he won't mind the stiffness
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Re: Good enoh red dot
[Re: Redneck Messiah]
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05/05/13 03:55 PM
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do any of these work like the E.O. Tech?? where dot dosnt have to be centered?? Could be wrong but i dont think so. Except the Bushnell version of Eotech
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Re: Good enoh red dot
[Re: Redneck Messiah]
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05/06/13 01:19 PM
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missingAK
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do any of these work like the E.O. Tech?? where dot dosnt have to be centered?? The Vortex strikefire does. Wherever the red dot is the bullet goes. Doesn't have to be centered in the scope.
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened." Winston Churchill
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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05/06/13 02:54 PM
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x2 on the Primary Arms red dot. Best for the price and reliability. I have beat mine to all hell and it keeps on kicking. 
Last edited by GDusek84; 05/06/13 07:09 PM.
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Re: Good enoh red dot
[Re: missingAK]
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05/08/13 12:23 AM
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do any of these work like the E.O. Tech?? where dot dosnt have to be centered?? The Vortex strikefire does. Wherever the red dot is the bullet goes. Doesn't have to be centered in the scope. Is the Vortex SPARC the same as well??
Originally Posted By: cody
...give it to a homeless guy...he won't mind the stiffness
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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05/08/13 03:13 AM
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missingAK
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do any of these work like the E.O. Tech?? where dot dosnt have to be centered?? The Vortex strikefire does. Wherever the red dot is the bullet goes. Doesn't have to be centered in the scope. Is the Vortex SPARC the same as well?? Don't know. Never looked at one.
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened." Winston Churchill
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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05/08/13 06:01 PM
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Have a Vortex Strikefire and am happy with it.
Check with Skylar and SWFA for a good deal.
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Re: Good enoh red dot
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05/11/13 12:11 AM
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x2 on the Primary Arms red dot. Best for the price and reliability. I have beat mine to all hell and it keeps on kicking. I'm using one on my AR as well. It was reasonably priced and accurate enough for what I wanted it to do.
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