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Re: Waterfowl Paradise [Re: skibum01] #4091579 03/01/13 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: skibum01
Hello everyone, I just joined the forum to lay out some facts about WPHC since this is such a hot topic. I read this forum sometimes but now I am starting to question the quality of content that is posted here.

I am not getting on here to bash folks because of their posts, but realize that you are making damaging comments about a guy that has done you no wrong. It's just not a very good way to carry yourself as a gentleman, thus you are not earning any respect from this community with the unsupported claims.

If you have had a bad experience with my club, then please tell all. Most of the he posters here have not really laid out the facts about WPHC or Mr. Cobra7 and his lawsuit against WPHC.

Lets start with a summary of my 2012-2013 hunting season:
Several groups of members showed up to some work days to help build blinds, brush, pump water, etc...all hard work from July-September. After the first few work days the contributors decreased and only a few individuals remained to help prepare for the coming season. This is common, everyone has a life outside of this demanding hobby. On the other hand, if your preparation is relaxed you must expect and equal yield of rewards/fowl harvest.

What do you know on the first day of teal season everyone in there brother in-law checks in for a blind. Where were those people when the work was taking place? I am sure they we engaging in many other pressing matters. Lots of members were wondering why they did not have a blind to hunt...because few help prepare, so few hunted. The rest of the season would be the same because very few volunteered to help even after the summer heat dissipated. The people that helped work were rewarded with good producing ponds and fun hunts making good memories, and others got the left over ponds. Is there any other way to disperse the ponds if everyone does not pull their weight? I have personally told Chris to send groups to better ponds that he selected for my group because I realized that some groups had not been on a good producing hunt. I did not have to do that, but that is just how I roll. Most of us that pursue ducks are Alpha types and want to have the very best hunt possible every time, but sometimes we need to learn that reward is also reaped from a little kindness even when it is not required.

One my second hunt of teal season Mr. Cobra7 and another small party was setup in my assigned duck blind hours before shooting time (seems like public land). I asked why they were in the blind assigned to my group and the answer revived was, "Chris did not return my calls so we just picked a blind". Shame on Chris for not returning a call saying that he did not have a blind for them to hunt, but my hunt was ruined due to the stupidity of others. The club rules clearly state that the blinds are assigned, not freely selected. We all agreed to hunt together, but myself and another were standing outside the blind b/c there were too many people. Did I rant and rave, no, I respected my fellow club member even though he was the cause of the issue. Did i complain and vent frustration to my group and Chris, yes.

The locks were changed on some leases so that people not respecting the rules could not ruin others hunts. Cobra7 still disobeyed the rules and was filmed cutting locks to access club properties after being dismissed from the club. He then filed suit after Chris did not give a refund, which the contract states that there no refunds given. Now a large group of members that feel mistreated are trying to bring legal action against a person that is guilty of running a disorganized business. Could Chris have done a better job at calling members etc, YES, but i saw very few members making an effort to ensure all work was completed on the hunting grounds so that all had a place to hunt everyday of the year.

After Cobra7 has placed a lawsuit on Chris I found out that this guys in on disability due to work related injuries. If this is true how can a guy afford to duck hunt, shoot a shotgun, and place/pickup decoys in soggy terrain. Maybe folks should ask this guy a few questions about his ethics. I know we do not want him apart of our club. In fact there are some members that are very happy with the club. I have not known Chris and WPHC for a full year, but I was happy with my experience.

Lets jump to a new topic on Chris canceling the San Antonio Delta Waterfowl Chapter donated hunt. Dave which I think is the San Antonio DW chapter president blasted Chris on this and several other forums for canceling the "donated" hunt. I know for a fact that this hunt was never canceled. Chris told Dave he had a hunt date planned. The auction winner of the hunt called Chris one month in advance and on a daily basis asking what location the hunt would take place. Chris's reply was I will let you know the day before the hunt due to bird movements. The person not happy with Chris's reasons and cried to DW and the hunt was refunded. Later that day Dave called Chris for an explanation and Chris laid it out, the action winner was not happy about how I setup the hunt , but he can still schedule the hunt and I will let him know the location the day before. Then Dave when ranting on about how he had a bad season on the WPHC grounds. This was 100% the fault of the hunter. Chris sent this guy to great ponds, but I believe a lack of hunting knowledge on Dave's part is why he produced few birds. I personally have killed good birds on the same ground he hunted, and I am no pro that's for sure. This guy Dave has also sat at the camp watching football all day while others prepared meals for that night. Dave's group ate our food that members paid for, then did make offers to help clean dishes. They could have at least gone scout their hunting locations. Chris had to sit on the phone at 11pm or 4am guiding this group and many others to blinds because they will not put in the time to prepare. Some people just do not deserve to be apart of the great sport of hunting.

To address the water issues on the WPHC grounds:
Yes there were water issues and farmers that did not cut rice until well into the season. The LCRA shut down water flow due to the drought. Its not a good thing but out of the control of Chris. I "one one the few that worked every weekend" was put on a dry hole once because a levee ruptured. Did Chris know about this before he sent us there? I would hope not because karma is not good. The rest of the season I was invited on great goose hunts and did well with the ducks, but lets face it this year really sucked compared to some past seasons.

Chris Slemp provides a place where I can afford to hunt on the Texas prairie, unlike many other over priced leases or outfits (but that is just supply and demand). The members of the club that show up and contribute always have a great time and we look forward to next year. If you are a like minded group or individual that does not mind a little perpetration before the season starts, give Chris a call and he will be happy to show you around the area. And by the way Mr. David Pruitt is a great guy, folks should not bash on people that you do not know.

If you have a problem with Chris, go to his house and talk to the guy. Those who smear others on a forum is unlikely to confront him in person, just saying you cowards. If you need to speak with a club member directly send me a PM and we can arrange a discussion in person. We are getting ready for the 2013-2014 season by prepping the dove fields and building blinds. You should come out if interested in the club. Otherwise keep your nonfactual comments off the forum, have a little respect for yourself. Karma is real.

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Re: Waterfowl Paradise [Re: Quack boy1] #4091594 03/01/13 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: skibum01
Hello everyone, I just joined the forum to lay out some facts about WPHC since this is such a hot topic. I read this forum sometimes but now I am starting to question the quality of content that is posted here.

I am not getting on here to bash folks because of their posts, but realize that you are making damaging comments about a guy that has done you no wrong. It's just not a very good way to carry yourself as a gentleman, thus you are not earning any respect from this community with the unsupported claims.

If you have had a bad experience with my club, then please tell all. Most of the he posters here have not really laid out the facts about WPHC or Mr. Cobra7 and his lawsuit against WPHC.

Lets start with a summary of my 2012-2013 hunting season:
Several groups of members showed up to some work days to help build blinds, brush, pump water, etc...all hard work from July-September. After the first few work days the contributors decreased and only a few individuals remained to help prepare for the coming season. This is common, everyone has a life outside of this demanding hobby. On the other hand, if your preparation is relaxed you must expect and equal yield of rewards/fowl harvest.

What do you know on the first day of teal season everyone in there brother in-law checks in for a blind. Where were those people when the work was taking place? I am sure they we engaging in many other pressing matters. Lots of members were wondering why they did not have a blind to hunt...because few help prepare, so few hunted. The rest of the season would be the same because very few volunteered to help even after the summer heat dissipated. The people that helped work were rewarded with good producing ponds and fun hunts making good memories, and others got the left over ponds. Is there any other way to disperse the ponds if everyone does not pull their weight? I have personally told Chris to send groups to better ponds that he selected for my group because I realized that some groups had not been on a good producing hunt. I did not have to do that, but that is just how I roll. Most of us that pursue ducks are Alpha types and want to have the very best hunt possible every time, but sometimes we need to learn that reward is also reaped from a little kindness even when it is not required.

One my second hunt of teal season Mr. Cobra7 and another small party was setup in my assigned duck blind hours before shooting time (seems like public land). I asked why they were in the blind assigned to my group and the answer revived was, "Chris did not return my calls so we just picked a blind". Shame on Chris for not returning a call saying that he did not have a blind for them to hunt, but my hunt was ruined due to the stupidity of others. The club rules clearly state that the blinds are assigned, not freely selected. We all agreed to hunt together, but myself and another were standing outside the blind b/c there were too many people. Did I rant and rave, no, I respected my fellow club member even though he was the cause of the issue. Did i complain and vent frustration to my group and Chris, yes.

The locks were changed on some leases so that people not respecting the rules could not ruin others hunts. Cobra7 still disobeyed the rules and was filmed cutting locks to access club properties after being dismissed from the club. He then filed suit after Chris did not give a refund, which the contract states that there no refunds given. Now a large group of members that feel mistreated are trying to bring legal action against a person that is guilty of running a disorganized business. Could Chris have done a better job at calling members etc, YES, but i saw very few members making an effort to ensure all work was completed on the hunting grounds so that all had a place to hunt everyday of the year.

After Cobra7 has placed a lawsuit on Chris I found out that this guys in on disability due to work related injuries. If this is true how can a guy afford to duck hunt, shoot a shotgun, and place/pickup decoys in soggy terrain. Maybe folks should ask this guy a few questions about his ethics. I know we do not want him apart of our club. In fact there are some members that are very happy with the club. I have not known Chris and WPHC for a full year, but I was happy with my experience.

Lets jump to a new topic on Chris canceling the San Antonio Delta Waterfowl Chapter donated hunt. Dave which I think is the San Antonio DW chapter president blasted Chris on this and several other forums for canceling the "donated" hunt. I know for a fact that this hunt was never canceled. Chris told Dave he had a hunt date planned. The auction winner of the hunt called Chris one month in advance and on a daily basis asking what location the hunt would take place. Chris's reply was I will let you know the day before the hunt due to bird movements. The person not happy with Chris's reasons and cried to DW and the hunt was refunded. Later that day Dave called Chris for an explanation and Chris laid it out, the action winner was not happy about how I setup the hunt , but he can still schedule the hunt and I will let him know the location the day before. Then Dave when ranting on about how he had a bad season on the WPHC grounds. This was 100% the fault of the hunter. Chris sent this guy to great ponds, but I believe a lack of hunting knowledge on Dave's part is why he produced few birds. I personally have killed good birds on the same ground he hunted, and I am no pro that's for sure. This guy Dave has also sat at the camp watching football all day while others prepared meals for that night. Dave's group ate our food that members paid for, then did make offers to help clean dishes. They could have at least gone scout their hunting locations. Chris had to sit on the phone at 11pm or 4am guiding this group and many others to blinds because they will not put in the time to prepare. Some people just do not deserve to be apart of the great sport of hunting.

To address the water issues on the WPHC grounds:
Yes there were water issues and farmers that did not cut rice until well into the season. The LCRA shut down water flow due to the drought. Its not a good thing but out of the control of Chris. I "one one the few that worked every weekend" was put on a dry hole once because a levee ruptured. Did Chris know about this before he sent us there? I would hope not because karma is not good. The rest of the season I was invited on great goose hunts and did well with the ducks, but lets face it this year really sucked compared to some past seasons.

Chris Slemp provides a place where I can afford to hunt on the Texas prairie, unlike many other over priced leases or outfits (but that is just supply and demand). The members of the club that show up and contribute always have a great time and we look forward to next year. If you are a like minded group or individual that does not mind a little perpetration before the season starts, give Chris a call and he will be happy to show you around the area. And by the way Mr. David Pruitt is a great guy, folks should not bash on people that you do not know.

If you have a problem with Chris, go to his house and talk to the guy. Those who smear others on a forum is unlikely to confront him in person, just saying you cowards. If you need to speak with a club member directly send me a PM and we can arrange a discussion in person. We are getting ready for the 2013-2014 season by prepping the dove fields and building blinds. You should come out if interested in the club. Otherwise keep your nonfactual comments off the forum, have a little respect for yourself. Karma is real.

Good Day








...........shut up


He said I'm not here to bash anyone and downing us like he's a saint then starts bashing cobra7 what a prick get off the forum slemp!


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Re: Waterfowl Paradise [Re: skibum01] #4091698 03/01/13 02:16 PM
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It's just not a very good way to carry yourself as a gentleman, thus you are not earning any respect from this community with the unsupported claims.




I for one would like to thank you for speaking for the entire community.


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Re: Waterfowl Paradise [Re: Trout-killer] #4091724 03/01/13 02:29 PM
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I agree with some of your claims. If a service was denied and no service was received and any point during the season, terms of the contract were broken and the provider is in default. Chris has a responsibility to make this right is a free membership the following year or provide a full refund. If Chris Slemp cannot agree with the claim, then a lawsuit should be filed.

This type of issue happens in everyday business and we are not stating any new information here. The court system will workout the issues and life will go on.

Educating people about bad businessmen/businesses is necessary and I hope that WPHC learns something from this, but some of you on here really act like children. I guess some folks never grow up.

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Okay so now I am really confused, in your first post you agree with everything that Chris did, but in your second post you agree that legal action should be taken.


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Re: Waterfowl Paradise [Re: Beretta] #4091796 03/01/13 02:58 PM
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Ski bum, you have no credibility here. You're first post on this forum was defending a person/business that has had numerous complaints from numerous people. You said yourself that you haven't known slemp for a full year yet. I'd be careful to bat for a guy that would ruin your reputation. One complaint about a business, sure, it happens. Several..?

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If I'm paying a few grand to duck hunt, I better have a place to hunt on opening day whether I came out for work day or not.


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I like spoonie, his humor is dryer than my duck lease.
Re: Waterfowl Paradise [Re: txbowhunt7] #4091840 03/01/13 03:19 PM
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For one, I helped build blinds and helped build the fence around the "lodge" as much as I could due to my disability. And on the day the gate was broken into I was on a day hunt with another outfitter. You really need to get your story together.

Re: Waterfowl Paradise [Re: skibum01] #4091901 03/01/13 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: skibum01
I agree with some of your claims. If a service was denied and no service was received and any point during the season, terms of the contract were broken and the provider is in default. Chris has a responsibility to make this right is a free membership the following year or provide a full refund. If Chris Slemp cannot agree with the claim, then a lawsuit should be filed.

This type of issue happens in everyday business and we are not stating any new information here. The court system will workout the issues and life will go on.

Educating people about bad businessmen/businesses is necessary and I hope that WPHC learns something from this, but some of you on here really act like children. I guess some folks never grow up.


Was it stated in the agreement that the club members had to pitch in and help build blinds..etc?

And as far as the delta hunt you cant just tell someone thats trying to plan around this hunt that ill call you a day ahead and let you know.... who has that kinda free time to drop everything and go...

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Re: Waterfowl Paradise [Re: john paul] #4091961 03/01/13 04:07 PM
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If everyone and their brother in law paid for a lease they better have a place to hunt on opening day of teal or otherwise regardless of if they helped build blinds or not. Thats a weak arguement for not calling folks back or giving them a place to hunt that THEY PAID FOR.I have stayed out of this but I cant let that ignorant statement go without comment. Your buddy Slemp had also called out other leases in his giant run on sentence with nothing but lies about how they had no water and so on and so on which was all bs.Chris used to be a nice kid. Not sure what has happened to him but Im guessing that thinking you will become rich in the hunting bussiness has something to do with it. He most likely over sold leases to try and make money and got his tit caught in the ringer.


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Re: Waterfowl Paradise [Re: Ramball36] #4091980 03/01/13 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: Ramball36
I would've figured that 3 grand should substitute this 'putting hard work days in' that you speak of, didn't read anywhere on your site that it costs xx amount of money plus xx amount of work days to be in the club but hey I'm not all that bright. Glad to see you guys admitting to screwing guys over bc they couldn't make it out to work like everyone else. Also happy that y'all hired out someone to type a rebuttal, it was nice to see all the cool punctuation and big words like 'thus' and 'gentleman'...you only messed up once on the 'if you don't mind a little perpetration' part, I don't think that means what you think I means...

Good Day Gov'ner!


From where I sit and being a party with no dog in this hunt, it would appear that he did indeed use the "perpetration" correctly.

It looks to me like this bunch of turkeys "perpetrated" a whole bunch of scummy and low class acts on people who paid good money for a place to hunt only to find out later that they were supposed to not only pay but also "sing for their supper". Not to even mention taking money and not even providing a place to hunt among other things.

Oh they "perpetrated" alright.

But I think he got one thing right, Kharma is a beiotch. Someone is going to eventually have to pay the piper, in this life or the next. But make no mistake someone is going to pay for their sins.


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Stick to the bunny slopes skibum....you're not helping your boy's situation

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Originally Posted By: Yassir Sanchez
Originally Posted By: Ramball36

Oh they "perpetrated" alright.



Sounds to me it was more like penetrated than perpetrated.

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Originally Posted By: Ramball36

Oh they "perpetrated" alright.



Sounds to me it was more like penetrated than perpetrated.

... Or maybe menstruated.


Originally Posted By: RoosterCogburn13
I like spoonie, his humor is dryer than my duck lease.
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Hope this lasts all day. So far it has been the only thing to get me through this Friday morning. Keeping my fingers crossed it makes it to at least 4pm.

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Now this is what I call cheap entertainment. Kind of like going shopping at Wal Mart.


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Re: Waterfowl Paradise [Re: drakedoctor] #4092496 03/01/13 07:47 PM
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You guys are still talking about this crap? How many threads and posts have been spent on this? A wise man once told Garrett who then told me when speaking of outfitters...."They're all a bunch of crooks". And now that you have read it on the internet...well it's true.

I've had good experiences with just about all the guides and outfitters I've ever used. Of course I'm also better looking and have better luck than just about everyone on here.


Originally Posted By: wal1809
Dear Lord please bullwhip me for saying this but I agree, Marcstar is in the lead. Please nobody use this as a quote!!!
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Ok, so a bunch of lazy hunters bought a "turnkey" hunt lease for $3k and got screwed by a con that makes up the rules as he goes. Now that makes sense. You girls go hash it out in court, lol...way to handle your business ladies! ROFLMAO

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I don't pay outfitters to hunt. Outfitters pay me.

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wow, the first time on the prairie where if you don't contribute to work days you DONT GET TO HUNT!!!! LMAO, what a great business practice.

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So someone on disability is not allowed to enjoy a hobby and the outdoors...? confused2...So you are saying since you worked more than others, you were rewarded by getting your phone calls returned by the slempmeister, and having the "good" blinds to hunt.? Did the "rules" specifically say you had to work "x" number of days..?Thats a place I want to be a part of.....

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Originally Posted By: Marcstar
You guys are still talking about this crap? How many threads and posts have been spent on this? A wise man once told Garrett who then told me when speaking of outfitters...."They're all a bunch of crooks". And now that you have read it on the internet...well it's true.

I've had good experiences with just about all the guides and outfitters I've ever used. Of course I'm also better looking and have better luck than just about everyone on here.
how many threads are you going to post on Marc?


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Originally Posted By: Marcstar
You guys are still talking about this crap? How many threads and posts have been spent on this? A wise man once told Garrett who then told me when speaking of outfitters...."They're all a bunch of crooks". And now that you have read it on the internet...well it's true.

I've had good experiences with just about all the guides and outfitters I've ever used. Of course I'm also better looking and have better luck than just about everyone on here.
how many threads are you going to post on Marc?
...Hay..."just about" is the key word in the comments....

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I'm waiting to see Marc's comeback. popcorn

In the meantime. I don't have these problems b/c... and I'll quote myself.

Originally Posted By: gacman
I don't pay outfitters to hunt. Outfitters pay me.

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