Sorry, if "Big Boys" means guys who care more about their ego than the animal they are hunting. I'll pass.

Given wind, animal reaction, shot quality, and a myriad of other variables I believe anything past 60 yards, is people just trying to show off and shows no respect or morals whatsoever.

and i feel this way about people shooting 35 yards. everyone has an opinion. gotta find your ethical shooting range i guess.
still no pics? gonna have to call bs

Of course you would but if you want a pic, look at my signature. Missouri, 27 degrees, 35 yards. My longest game shot.

Why not post your pics on the other thread instead of bashing on this one?

I wont even shoot at anything unless it so far away I got to use your site bubble for a pin

My Hero!! In reality they need to be that far away to not hear that loud freakin rest you use.

That explains a lot...how far was that Elk again?

45 yards in good weather conditions, try for 20-30 yard shots.

I bow hunt to hear them breath and be un detected, i have shot a pig quartering shot at 3FB at 45 yards but all my deer are 35 n closer, closest being about 7 yards and thats the one im most proud of. Im one to be more proud of myself that i can be undectected at 7 yards instead of hail mary i got one at 70. I have shot probably 15 animals with my bow including oryx blackbuck rams pigs and wt up to 199". I want a big audad and nilgia with my bow under 25 yards. Thats bigger than it all to me.

^^^^That's what bowhunting is about brother!^^^^

I've got a Horton Vision and I wouldn't try and push out past 40-45 even though I can stick the box at 70 with it. But don't listen to me, I missed a nice 9 back in October when he heard the string pop he picked his body up and took off like a starving cheetah.

Talk about some long distance shooting with a bow. Watch these I found on Youtube. Wonder if they are fake?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ri6U74eIvE

http://www.tusvideosdecaza.com/long-shot-hunting-alberta-mule-deer/

Ill shot at a hog as far as I think I can hit them. I limit deer to 25-30 but really 25.

To me bow hunting is about getting up close and personal, I dont need or want to shoot further than 25 yards.

On the other hand there are people who shoot better at 50 yards than I do at 30. If they can do it more power too them.

this is pure experience. if you can shoot a flying bird out of the air...well

i dunno bout the video...what do yall think?

I am really surprised at some of the answers here. Many bow hunters now a days are thinking the opposite. A deer at 70 yards doesn't hear the bow/arrow until it is too late. It seems the effective kill yardage is under 35 yards or between 60 and 100 yards. Many Elk are killed at 80 to 100 yards. All the good archers that I know think it is easier to kill a deer at 75 yards than 40 yards.

Personally I like to get then under 30 yards, I get a rush from being 10 yards from a deer without it detecting me. I don't have to kill it to get the rush. Deer just better hope I don't have a tag to fill on that day!

I would disagree with you sir. I would say "a few elk" are killed each year at longer ranges. Many are probably wounded and lost.

40 yds at a live animal is pushing it for most people, IMO. Shooting targets at 50 is not too bad but add a little deer jitters, add a little more rapid breathing and add a little horn fever, then shooting a live animal at 50 yds becomes extremely difficult. Even for seasoned hunters.

More elk are killed by percentage over 40 yards the whitetails.

We would all love to think we beat the wind, nose and the other 20 pairs of eyes and called that bad boy iinto 15 yards but thats not the reality

I understand 40 to 60 yards. He said 80 to 100. I know hunters who have shot their elk in the 40 and 45 yard range and with a kill area as large as it is on an elk you have a little more room for error but 80 to 100 I doubt seriously.

70-80 happens a lot more then you think but most who have done it aren't the ones that are going to brag about it, its not ideal, but do able depending on the situation But agree 80-100 is out there. Even on the TV shows bet the real distance gets cut down a few yards after 50yards when they tell you how far it was.

No matter what distance it is its all about the situation and animal....

Huge difference in "oh that elk is on to me and hung up at 80 on high alert and a elk at 80yards that has no idea there is any danger around and is just doing his thing.

For deer I use the Idea of half of the distance I practice. (range out to 80 yrds. For elk and African animals I will shoot a little further. As a rule of thumb it helps me knowing I can shoot further but I rarely have to. I use the same rule with my recurve as well. The reason I bow hunt is because I wanted a challenge and want to be close. I owe it to the animal to make a good shoot.

40 is my limit. I will practice to 60, but not confident in penetration and my skills under stress beyond 40.

I think an important question also depends on what Ramsey's archery setup will be.
If he only has a 26" draw length, is shooting a light arrow to try and maximize speed, is pulling 50LBS, but wants to shoot an very aggressive/large head it really changes things.

I think perhaps the best advise we could give would be to find out what Ramses setup is and give pointers on how to maximize it's potential for usage as a hunting setup; and remind him that he is the only person who should determine how far he choose to shoot at game. Choose the distances that you are most comfortable shooting and remember that you must be prepared to deal with situations that you shoot yourself into. Ignore the chatter in your ear about who can do what and focus on your abilities.

So.... What's your archery setup Ramsey?

Novice or beginner, ethical range for hunting should be based on your effective range and conditions on each particular day or scenario. This is something I feel constant re-evaluation is necessary.