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Re: Scales
[Re: tribby01]
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01/25/13 04:27 AM
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kmon11
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I really like that setup in the link. Can seat the bullet in the case while it dumps another powder charge for you while you continue to work.
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Re: Scales
[Re: kmon11]
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01/25/13 05:01 AM
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Cornfused!
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I still use an old balance beam scale to set to my powder throw on my dillon. I also have a cheap digital scale to make sure my balance beam is accurate.
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Re: Scales
[Re: Cornfused!]
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01/25/13 06:15 AM
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ChipChipperson45
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Get the balance beam. Soooo much more accurate and consistent.
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Re: Scales
[Re: Oxxon]
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01/25/13 02:52 PM
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ChipChipperson45
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Those look really useful and convenient... but man, $250 buck is a lot of money.
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Re: Scales
[Re: ChipChipperson45]
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01/25/13 03:38 PM
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Don Dial
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For the better part of the last 50 or so yrs. I've used a balance beam scale..RCBS..When Lyman came out w/the elec Dmps w/ a powder trickler, scale, ect..I purchased one..and have been well pleased with it as long as I'm loading at least 50 cartridges or more..It has improved my groups without the work involved w/a balance beam scale and is as fast..It does have a 30 min warm up prior to use..Don
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Re: Scales
[Re: Don Dial]
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01/26/13 11:51 AM
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Humble pie
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For hunting or plinking that RCBS scale is fine. When I started looking to tighten my groups, I dialed the throw down and trickled with a beam or Gempro 350( the minimum specifications for a stand alone digital scale in my opinion). If you go to that trouble it is more practical to use a powder throw and trickle. I can probably out run your RCBS unless you have reprogramed it. Even still you can blow and go with a ergonomic powder drop with a beam/quality E-scale and trickle setup. Topic to read Beam scale discussion Tunning you Chargmester Chads tips More charmaster programing info More
Last edited by Stangfish; 01/26/13 11:54 AM.
Never had a dog fail me yet.
Only you can modify your trajectory.
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Re: Scales
[Re: Humble pie]
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01/26/13 12:35 PM
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noylj
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There are old foggies who believe that beam balances are best. They maintain the relation between the weight in the pan and the counter weight despite changes in gravity. However, electronic scales rule in the real world. Back in the mid or late '70s I bought an Ainsworth balance, the first electronic that was offered at an affordable price. It still works perfectly. Do not buy an electronic balance that is much less than $75 and be sure that it runs of A/C. A battery back-up is an excellent option. If you get a beam, you will almost certainly want to spend about the same amount of money. With a beam, do not keep the beam on the balance unless in use, do not keep the balance out in the air, keep the balance clean, be careful with the poises. Treat it carefully and keep it clean. If you buy an electronic, be sure it comes with a wind/dust shield. Always zero either and perform occasional calibrations. I always had check weights with my beam and at least once a year I plotted the reading vs. the check weights total weight and always used the check weights with a tweezer and never handled with bare fingers. They both work great and all any one, even the most COD person or 2000 yd shooter only needs +/- 0.1gn readings. I use the RCBS ChargeMaster for all my load work-ups. It, and most the others, can be fine-tuned to dispense a given weight very quickly (at the expense of speed for other weights). I have never needed to adjust mine. Since I don't load on my Dillon 1050s for speed, as I always carefully seat the bullet, it is able to dispense while I am seating a bullet. PS: I consider the Lee Safety Scale to be as good as any other reloading beam, but it is very light weight (which means you can accidentally move it and lose zero a bit easier than heavier units) and you need to get used to the vernier read-out of the weight.
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Re: Scales
[Re: noylj]
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01/26/13 01:10 PM
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Humble pie
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Good post noylj I am left with the impression that using tweasers to set the test weight is for careful <.01 grain accuracy. If .1 is close enough, no argument there, why such a degree of accuracy when it is not that critical. Please elaborate,
thanks fish
Last edited by Stangfish; 01/26/13 01:13 PM.
Never had a dog fail me yet.
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Re: Scales
[Re: Humble pie]
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01/26/13 09:49 PM
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fatboy-john
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FYI....the Frankford Arsenal digital scale sold by midway, is one of the best Ive ever owned; given this 1 caveat, you must keep fresh, good batteries in it. Do that, and you too can throw bullets like a pro.
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Re: Scales
[Re: fatboy-john]
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01/27/13 01:51 AM
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603Country
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I now use my Lyman DPS 3 to throw, trickle and weigh. I use my old PACT digital to check weigh. My RCBS 10-10 has sat, unused, for a couple of years. I love that new Lyman. So much faster and easier to use. And yes, 30 minutes to warm up, but I need to make coffee and set everything else up, so that's not a problem.
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Re: Scales
[Re: killen]
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02/03/13 08:26 PM
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Blue Wolf
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Frankford Arsenal digital scale sold by midway, is one of the best Ive ever owned. I bought 2 of them for $19.95 each from Midway on sale. I have a Redding BR powder measure with dual micrometer and I love the setup.
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