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AR not used in Newtown
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01/19/13 01:55 PM
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All the focus of the tragedy has been he used an AR-15. Apparently not so. http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
[Re: Bar-D]
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01/19/13 02:24 PM
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Hard to believe that the liberal media actually reported this!
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
[Re: Gunsmoke1528]
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01/19/13 02:34 PM
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Well they reported it, but notice the date. That was before the story was changed to meet the agenda. MSN was not the only network to report the long guns were left in the car.
Now it is like that long gun left in the car is the only weapon that was used.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
[Re: Gunsmoke1528]
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01/19/13 02:36 PM
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Man I hope that's true, how will the gun grabbers explain that? Blame it on the lying news media?
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
[Re: Gunsmoke1528]
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01/19/13 02:36 PM
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That was aired on the 15th of december. That's when "information was still coming in, much of it contradictory". The media outlets have since reached a consensus which supports their agenda. So as far as the news, the president, and the teeming hordes of sheeple are concerned, the primary weapon at Sandy Hook WAS an AR15. The actual facts are irrelevant at this point.
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
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01/19/13 03:01 PM
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how the hell did i miss this!? how was this glossed over so badly?! why the hell is bobo trying to ban ARs now? such fn morons!
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
[Re: 36 South]
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01/19/13 06:22 PM
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Nothing adds up about the entire shooting ... as of now we have endless contradictions and stories. More than one shooter and video of the police dragging another guy out of the woods, two pistols, four pistols, AR no AR, all the gun shot wound caused by the "long arm" none by the side arms, rifle in the trunk, shotgun in the trunk. Facebook pages to mourn the loss set up two days before the incident occurred..... it's so muddled between the media and internet hacks you don't know what the heck to believe.
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
[Re: 10ring]
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01/19/13 06:45 PM
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Nothing adds up about the entire shooting ... as of now we have endless contradictions and stories. More than one shooter and video of the police dragging another guy out of the woods, two pistols, four pistols, AR no AR, all the gun shot wound caused by the "long arm" none by the side arms, rifle in the trunk, shotgun in the trunk. Facebook pages to mourn the loss set up two days before the incident occurred..... it's so muddled between the media and internet hacks you don't know what the heck to believe. 80lbs , mentally challenged ,loaded with 50 lbs of gear shot himself a entrance (because a new security system was just installed so he shot his way in or some one buzzed in a guy dressed in black wielding guns)in to the building and shot 26 people and left no witnesses.
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
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01/19/13 06:58 PM
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Nothing adds up about the entire shooting ... as of now we have endless contradictions and stories. More than one shooter and video of the police dragging another guy out of the woods, two pistols, four pistols, AR no AR, all the gun shot wound caused by the "long arm" none by the side arms, rifle in the trunk, shotgun in the trunk. Facebook pages to mourn the loss set up two days before the incident occurred..... it's so muddled between the media and internet hacks you don't know what the heck to believe. Kinda hard to know what the truth is, aye.
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
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01/19/13 08:05 PM
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Even I'm curious as to what is going on. A little girl that was supposedly shot and killed did a Photo Op with the President himself after the shooting.
This whole thing is odd and bizarre.
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
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01/19/13 08:55 PM
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i want to know how some 20 year old mental case is that good of a shot?? I like to think im a good shot or that i can atleast take care of business if i need to and i shoot all the time. Still could not shoot like that because im not a professional shooter if you know what i mean. stuff is nuts these days, media controls nearly everything.
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
[Re: Bar-D]
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01/20/13 12:38 PM
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It’s time to get over it. That report is OLD news dated December 15th that NBC apologized for and retracted by the end of that day. Since the press conference that day all reports have been that the “long weapon” — the Bushmaster — was used to kill the 26 people in the school, confirmed again yesterday for all those who have a hard time with the facts: ** UPDATE ** STATE POLICE IDENTIFY WEAPONS USED IN SANDY HOOK INVESTIGATION; INVESTIGATION CONTINUES In previous press conferences, the Connecticut State Police clearly identified all of the weapons seized from the crime scene at Sandy Hook Elementary School. To eliminate any confusion or misinformation, we will again describe and identify the weapons seized at the school crime scene. Seized inside the school: #1. Bushmaster .223 caliber— model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round clips #2. Glock 10 mm handgun #3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun Seized from suspect’s car in parking lot: #4. Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun (seized from car in parking lot) This case remains under investigation. Lt. J. Paul Vance http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284&A=4226
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
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01/20/13 02:53 PM
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It’s time to get over it. That report is OLD news dated December 15th that NBC apologized for and retracted by the end of that day. Since the press conference that day all reports have been that the “long weapon” — the Bushmaster — was used to kill the 26 people in the school, confirmed again yesterday for all those who have a hard time with the facts: ** UPDATE ** STATE POLICE IDENTIFY WEAPONS USED IN SANDY HOOK INVESTIGATION; INVESTIGATION CONTINUES In previous press conferences, the Connecticut State Police clearly identified all of the weapons seized from the crime scene at Sandy Hook Elementary School. To eliminate any confusion or misinformation, we will again describe and identify the weapons seized at the school crime scene. Seized inside the school: #1. Bushmaster .223 caliber— model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round clips #2. Glock 10 mm handgun #3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun Seized from suspect’s car in parking lot: #4. Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun (seized from car in parking lot) This case remains under investigation. Lt. J. Paul Vance http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284&A=4226 I don't have a hard time with the facts, simply the first I had heard about it. I don't watch NBC news.
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
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01/20/13 03:25 PM
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Even I'm curious as to what is going on. A little girl that was supposedly shot and killed did a Photo Op with the President himself after the shooting.
This whole thing is odd and bizarre. That was the little girls sister.
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
[Re: HWY_MAN]
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01/20/13 04:26 PM
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It’s time to get over it. That report is OLD news dated December 15th that NBC apologized for and retracted by the end of that day. Since the press conference that day all reports have been that the “long weapon” — the Bushmaster — was used to kill the 26 people in the school, confirmed again yesterday for all those who have a hard time with the facts: ** UPDATE ** STATE POLICE IDENTIFY WEAPONS USED IN SANDY HOOK INVESTIGATION; INVESTIGATION CONTINUES In previous press conferences, the Connecticut State Police clearly identified all of the weapons seized from the crime scene at Sandy Hook Elementary School. To eliminate any confusion or misinformation, we will again describe and identify the weapons seized at the school crime scene. Seized inside the school: #1. Bushmaster .223 caliber— model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round clips #2. Glock 10 mm handgun #3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun Seized from suspect’s car in parking lot: #4. Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun (seized from car in parking lot) This case remains under investigation. Lt. J. Paul Vance http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284&A=4226 nothing here i need to get over. that was the first i had heard that. i spent all night trying to validate it and couldn't but i never saw a retraction. i do agree though that the conspiracy theories kicking up are over the top. i aint in that camp
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
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01/20/13 05:12 PM
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There are loose ends. Fine. There always are. Often it is due to competitive news folks wanting to be the first to break a story, I get that. However, when PR firms go into management mode - to move opinion in order to not let a good crisis go to waste- I get disgusted and concerned.
The term "conspiracy theory" was a hatched by such people in the 1930's when the very American practice of questioning everything was still strong. Hell my Father demanded I questioned things that did not make sense to me, called it critical thinking. No harm thinking. However, if the conclusion drawn has no meaningful utility...or its impractical, or deemed domestic terrorism, lol, yeah, do yourself a favor- just file it.
Bottom line, more often than not it is just evil, sick or over medicated people doing evil sick things. To combat this, we have arms and the responsibility of defending ourselves..period.
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
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01/20/13 05:16 PM
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There's a lot that's attributable to the immediate confusion. I'm still looking for an explanation for several tribute webpages being online before the shooting though.
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
[Re: psychsurf]
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01/20/13 06:02 PM
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Edjk
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Ask any hacker, real or otherwise - a date stamp can be modified. Not easy, but doable.
Enter plausibility & plausible denial: These diminish the answers practical utility to the debate and wastes time better spent defending our position with irrefutable facts.
In my opinion, some questions are better left alone or they just might consume you...
Truth is simple while over time lies often compound under their own weight. Then the weapon of ridicule can be deployed, lefties really hate that. I on the other hand like having a good time laughing at their idiocy.
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
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01/20/13 06:24 PM
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wastes time better spent defending our position with irrefutable facts.
Couldn't agree more!
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
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01/20/13 11:39 PM
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I'm a little courious as to why this woman chose the tactical type weapons that she chose. 10mm is not your normal caliber for a hand gun not to mention a Siaga 12GA and an AR. All of these belonged to this guy's mother, not his father or brother.
There just seems to be something unusual about this collection or is it just me? I think there was also body armor involved?
My wife and I have body armor that we wear when we are on or near the Mex/Ariz border. We have been shot at by smugglers before. But why would someone from Conn. need body armor?
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
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01/21/13 12:27 AM
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Shhhhhh! Mustn't ask such questions. You might be labeled a racist -LOL. Big picture or the big "know it all" thinkers and control freaks might cast insults, pejoratives, etc your way LOL....awesome insight.
Eyes and ears open....
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
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01/21/13 12:37 AM
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Shhhhhh! Mustn't ask such questions. You might be labeled a racist -LOL. Big picture or the big "know it all" thinkers and control freaks might cast insults, pejoratives, etc your way LOL....awesome insight.
Eyes and ears open....
do you wear an aluminum foil hat so the aliens can't read your mind?
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
[Re: TXHogger]
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01/21/13 01:09 AM
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Funny! And I agree with you. RRRRRRRR!!!! Lion Boy - Attack!!!
Your meds are a'caliing stinky britches LOL! LMFAO....
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Re: AR not used in Newtown
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01/21/13 01:11 AM
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Funny! And I agree with you. RRRRRRRR!!!! Lion Boy - Attack!!!
Your meds are a'caliing stinky britches LOL! LMFAO.... yep, you have lost your mind...
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