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 Re: Assault gun ban
[Re: TXQuailHunter]
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01/15/13 02:28 PM
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Texas Dan
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Noticed on the news this am that New York is about to pass a law that will only make online sales of AR's illegal. I can live with that.
"When the debate is lost, insults become the tool of the loser."
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Re: Assault gun ban
[Re: Texas Dan]
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01/15/13 02:48 PM
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one73maro
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From everything I have read this is how I understand the executive order to work. If I have misinterpreted something here could someone chime in here and correct me. Obama can only use an executive to change an existing law. In those states that already have a high capacity magazine ban he can use an executive order to reduce that mag capacity. He cannot use an executive order to create a new law and pass it on his own. The new law would have to go up for a vote in Congress.
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Re: Assault gun ban
[Re: one73maro]
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01/15/13 03:07 PM
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Texas Dan, you need to re-read the 'new' NY law. It's goes waaaaay beyond that...
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Re: Assault gun ban
[Re: Texas Dan]
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01/15/13 03:32 PM
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Dan, that is called incrementalism. This is how the socialist accomplish everything they do, little by little.
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Re: Assault gun ban
[Re: Texas Dan]
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01/15/13 03:47 PM
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Noticed on the news this am that New York is about to pass a law that will only make online sales of AR's illegal. I can live with that. No. We shouldn't give one inch because next time they will take a foot.
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Re: Assault gun ban
[Re: Choctaw]
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01/15/13 04:37 PM
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LopacFF
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I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around why I'm not hearing very many republican politician speaking up about this. Is the republican party in shambles? Only group I hear raising hell about it is the NRA. Do the dems own the airwaves and most general publication? I think the coverage of this scares me more than the talk of a ban its self.
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Re: Assault gun ban
[Re: Texas Dan]
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01/15/13 04:41 PM
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Noticed on the news this am that New York is about to pass a law that will only make online sales of AR's illegal. I can live with that. Details of the bill that passed the NY Senate last night: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Gun...-186794151.html
- Under current state law, assault weapons are defined by having two "military rifle" features, such as folding stock, muzzle flash suppressor or bayonet mount. The proposal would reduce that to one feature, including the popular pistol grip. The language specifically targeted the military-style rifle used in the Newtown shootings.
- Current owners of those guns will have to register them.
- Private sales of assault weapons to someone other than an immediate family would be subject to a background check through a dealer. New Yorkers also would be barred from buying assault weapons over the Internet, and failing to safely store a weapon could lead to a misdemeanor charge.
- Ammunition magazines would be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10, and current owners of higher-capacity magazines would have a year to sell them out of state. An owner caught at home with eight or more bullets in a magazine could face a misdemeanor charge.
- Stores that sell ammunition will have to register with the state, run background checks on buyers of bullets and keep an electronic database of bullet sales.
- A therapist who believes a mental health patient made a credible threat to use a gun illegally would be required to report it to a mental health director who would have to notify the state. A patient's gun could be taken away.
- Increases sentences for gun crimes including the shooting of a first responder that Cuomo called the "Webster provision." Last month in Webster, two firefighters were killed after responding to a fire set by the shooter, who eventually killed himself.
- Mandates a police registry of assault weapons, grandfathering in assault weapons already in private hands.
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Re: Assault gun ban
[Re: JS3704]
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01/15/13 04:50 PM
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NY as a state is well within their rights to do this. I don't agree with any of it, but it is the correct way to implement law because anyone who don't like it can move to another state.
If the federal government does it, then it's a problem.
This cannot be fixed at the voting booth.. Wake Up You Morons!
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Re: Assault gun ban
[Re: Mike W]
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01/15/13 05:02 PM
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NY has lost their minds but we already knew that.
It's the federal controls that are coming later today that are worrisome.
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Re: Assault gun ban
[Re: Texas Dan]
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01/15/13 07:37 PM
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Noticed on the news this am that New York is about to pass a law that will only make online sales of AR's illegal. I can live with that. There is nothing different about a purchase made online or in a brick & mortar store. It has to be transferred though an FFL. You have to do paperwork. You have to pass NICS check. But maybe I'm missing something. How do you justify it?
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Re: Assault gun ban
[Re: Texas Dan]
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01/15/13 07:48 PM
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Noticed on the news this am that New York is about to pass a law that will only make online sales of AR's illegal. I can live with that. If theres one thing I respect about unions is that they dont concede anything they dont have to. They band together, they dont seperate themselves from weak and allow the weak to be picked off. Saul Alinsky says to isloate the weak and kill it, then find the next target. In other words, anything lost today will have even more consequences tomorrow. So if you like your bolt action firearms, you better protect the semi-automatics.
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Re: Assault gun ban
[Re: Friction]
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01/15/13 07:54 PM
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I thought we had the right to bear arms.....not the right to bear arms under restrictions every other tuesday that can only be this color that can only shoot a few bullets at a time that only fire people safe bullets that have trakers in them that have you face and address posted on the web that have....wait were did all the rights go... 
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Re: Assault gun ban
[Re: Mike W]
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01/15/13 08:12 PM
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JS3704
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NY as a state is well within their rights to do this. I don't agree with any of it, but it is the correct way to implement law because anyone who don't like it can move to another state.
If the federal government does it, then it's a problem. I agree in principle, but I believe NY typically has a 3-day waiting period between bills being introduced and voted on in order to give citizens subjects the time to comment on it. The governor called a special session in this case yesterday and wouldn't let the NY Senate leave until it had been passed last night. Said he "didn't want to allow panic-buying to set in and increase the number of assault weapons already on the street" or something to that effect.
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Re: Assault gun ban
[Re: Texas Dan]
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01/15/13 09:53 PM
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Noticed on the news this am that New York is about to pass a law that will only make online sales of AR's illegal. I can live with that. The only reason I could really live with that is because I supoort states' rights and I don't live in NY. Here's what I can live with... http://radio.woai.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=119078&article=10700507The bill is being pushed by Steve Toth of the Woodlands. He was on the radio this morning and seemed to give the bill an 80-85% chance of passing.
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Re: Assault gun ban
[Re: GriffGruff78]
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01/16/13 02:55 AM
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Background check on purchase of ammo? Disturbing...
I go to Bone Daddy's for the burgers....yeah, that's why.
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Re: Assault gun ban
[Re: GriffGruff78]
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01/16/13 03:23 AM
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Noticed on the news this am that New York is about to pass a law that will only make online sales of AR's illegal. I can live with that. The only reason I could really live with that is because I supoort states' rights and I don't live in NY. Here's what I can live with... http://radio.woai.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=119078&article=10700507The bill is being pushed by Steve Toth of the Woodlands. He was on the radio this morning and seemed to give the bill an 80-85% chance of passing. concur completely. States rights above all else, and God Bless Texas!
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