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Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: captcrunch227] #3935183 01/09/13 11:25 PM
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He put Biden in charge of it because Biden is a moron. When he gets nothing done he can blame republicans and Biden . Anything will be minimal. This is panic, pure panic.

Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: killemall] #3935192 01/09/13 11:28 PM
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Why I never got my CHL...I did not want my name on a list that is for all practical purposes public record once submitted. I'm no attornery, but it scared me.

Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: BAS] #3935220 01/09/13 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: BAS
Why I never got my CHL...I did not want my name on a list that is for all practical purposes public record once submitted. I'm no attornery, but it scared me.


That's why I never renewed..... up


Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: BAS] #3935323 01/10/13 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: BAS
Why I never got my CHL...I did not want my name on a list that is for all practical purposes public record once submitted. I'm no attornery, but it scared me.


The 2ND Amendment gave us that right, why should we spend our money getting it back by getting a CHL. up


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Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: Western] #3935398 01/10/13 12:20 AM
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Executive Action means that Obama is going to attempt to bans guns all by himself.

And here is how he is going to probably do it.

Text from the 1934 National Firearms Act

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(b) Machinegun. -- The term "machinegun" means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person.


By REALLY REALLY reaching .... or can be readily restored to shoot .... can be used and made to apply to all semiautomatic weapons. After all, it only takes less than 100 grams of metal to turn a semiauto into a machinegun [using liberal logic]

And THAT is how I think he is going to do it. All semi's registered under the NFA as machineguns using an EO to further define the regulatory environment we already operate under.


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Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: centurion2000] #3935403 01/10/13 12:21 AM
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Now the really funny part is that will send the NFA darn near straight to the Supreme Court for a ruling.


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Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: BAS] #3935457 01/10/13 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: BAS
Why I never got my CHL...I did not want my name on a list that is for all practical purposes public record once submitted. I'm no attornery, but it scared me.


Okay so I just took the course and the teach said that someone could ask and submit the info needed to see if someone was a chl holder. The person who submitted would receive the others persons name and address and that was it. THEN the government would send the chl holder the name and address of the person doing the checking.


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Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: beaucfus] #3935745 01/10/13 01:29 AM
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I own many guns, try and come take them! At some point it will be time to make a stand. I am willing to die for my beliefs and rights, are you? They can only do what we allow them to do, with 29+ million guns sold in just 2012 I think we are a well armed militia. Exactly what are forefathers knew we would need to be. But we can't hide from it, hoping it will all go away. your voice needs to be heard and felt now more than ever. Contact your representative

Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: captcrunch227] #3936313 01/10/13 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted By: captcrunch227
Why is everyone panicking on what Biden said? The guy is a Fruit Loop and his position is probably the least powerful one in the entire government. He's the crazy uncle we all have. This panic buying stuff is just stupid. That's what's driving up prices, fear. Instead of buying every ar piece on the market how about you join the NRA? Sharing your opinion on a public forum won't prevent the legislation from passing joining the NRA will. Rant over.

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Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: cephus] #3936364 01/10/13 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted By: cephus
fed agent: "Mr. Cehpus, it shows on my list that you own guns. I will need you to produce them and hand them in"

Mr. Cehpus: " I sold all mine to the THF members."

I'm going to start practicing my poker face now....



You mean TFF members, right?


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Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: syncerus] #3936377 01/10/13 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: syncerus
Incidentally, attempting to subvert the Bill of Rights is a violation of his oath of office.


Sooo When did that stop him????

Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: Mfloski] #3936390 01/10/13 04:15 AM
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I don't understand why people are so scared for people to know they have guns it is our right as Americans to own guns. I would be more scared for people to know that I don't have guns. You want to keep your guns but you don't want to stand up and be known as a gun owner and let our government know that you do not agree with this! When they are gone you will have to blame yourselves for doing nothing to stop it.


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Originally Posted By: captcrunch227
Why is everyone panicking on what Biden said? The guy is a Fruit Loop and his position is probably the least powerful one in the entire government. He's the crazy uncle we all have. This panic buying stuff is just stupid. That's what's driving up prices, fear. Instead of buying every ar piece on the market how about you join the NRA? Sharing your opinion on a public forum won't prevent the legislation from passing joining the NRA will. Rant over.


Ask the NRA how they feel about Biden. He might not be the brightest bulb in the box, but he is brighter than some of the others in Washington. There's a reason Obama uses him a lot more than Bush used Cheney.

Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: TheCloudX] #3937054 01/10/13 02:51 PM
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Despite what yahoos on the left want to portray the NRA as, there are some really smart members as well as them have a small army of some of the constitutional lawyers in the land.

The stereotypical NRA member is not a true reflection of NRA leader Wayne and his lawyers are pretty smart group by all accounts. They will challenge the constitutionality of all this and then the courts will mediate.

GO John Roberts!


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Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: toolman] #3937246 01/10/13 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: toolman
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fed agent: "Mr. Cehpus, it shows on my list that you own guns. I will need you to produce them and hand them in"

Mr. Cehpus: " I sold all mine to the THF members."

I'm going to start practicing my poker face now....



Haha Bingo!!!!

You mean TFF members, right?


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Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: BAS] #3937597 01/10/13 05:04 PM
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I'm almost worried about this one but we will see glad I don't own any guns


Yes. Just in case the NSA is monitoring this forum, I don't own any guns either.

The NSA monitors EVERYTHING.....internet, email, phone lines (land and cell):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/


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Major things could come out of this but in reality the black market is going to thrive. Wonder what kind of bail out he is going to offer to the gun companies that this would most likely out out of business


will the black market or current preban scare pricing be more expensive?


Good question. Some prices are already at or higher than they were during the 1994-2004 ban.

Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: Creekrunner] #3937752 01/10/13 05:55 PM
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executive orders cannot ammend the constitution , if obama tries , both him and biden should be impeached along with any other dem or republican who supports them, maybe govenor perry can make every texan part of the national gaurd

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What they should be doing is prosecuting the prosecutors for not prosecuting criminals based on the laws that are violated that are already on the books. That said I'm signing up two new members to the NRA. We need to increase the ranks and they are going to need the funds to fight the idiocy of our liberal leaders.


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Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: sticksteer] #3938581 01/10/13 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: sticksteer
executive orders cannot ammend the constitution , if obama tries , both him and biden should be impeached along with any other dem or republican who supports them, maybe govenor perry can make every texan part of the national gaurd


I'm really hoping he tries an EO. I'd love to see Abbott give a I don't think so lawsuit.

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We should get "look see" a Bidens "recommendation" by next week, Wednesday I believe. Hope fully he is still firm in his belief "no ones taking his shotgun"


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Re: Its coming Gun control!! [Re: Creekrunner] #3946275 01/13/13 05:02 AM
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I think we all know that this isn't as much about preventing killings with guns; as it is about the government gaining control over us.


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