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Re: White Mouflon
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01/09/13 08:39 PM
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Maybe im just dumb but whats the difference in white sheep, and white hair sheep?
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/09/13 08:50 PM
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[quote=Roo Basher]Duane, Since you said white sheep and not white hair sheep, it could be a Navajo Churro. WHITE NAVAJO CHURRO 4 HORN WOOL SHEEP 2ND WHITE NAVAJO CHURRO 4 HORN WOOL SHEEP WILTESHIREHORN HAIR SHEEP WHITE  2ND WILTSHIRE HORN HAIR SHEEP WHITE DAMARA HAIR SHEEP yes so according to what you said all of those sheep are dalls
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/09/13 09:06 PM
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Maybe im just dumb but whats the difference in white sheep, and white hair sheep? There are two types of sheep (as far as their fur coverings are concerned)....some have wool, others have hair. That's what Roo is referring to. Most of the sheep in the world that are hunted are "hair sheep". Others like Merino or Jacob's (4 Horn) are "wool sheep".
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/09/13 09:06 PM
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Duane, I am just messing with Wade.
Axis and Chital are probably pissing their pants.
(quote) Maybe im just dumb but whats the difference in white sheep, and white hair sheep? (quote)
Mike,
Hair sheep would be any domestic breed of sheep or hybrid there of that does not produce wool. There are about 30-50 kinds of domestic hair sheep, most do not live in North America. We have about 3-6. Typified by the island type barbados and crosses there of like the St Croix and Kathadin, the wiltshire horn, and these mouflon hybrids like the corsican.
Now that "trophy hair sheep" have registrys I guess you could call them breeds. So Corsican, Black Hawaiian, Texas Dall and so on.
Then you have wooled breeds, and most wool breeds are predominantly but not totally white. So as to have a more marketable fleece for dying.
I put the caveat "hair sheep" on the title to keep people from thinking we are shooting rambouillets and merinos.
I grew up in the sheep industry, so to me in my left brain sheep predominantly are wooled, though we raised barbados and mouflons hybrids when I was in high school.
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/09/13 09:07 PM
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Fun morning here in sheep land.
Have a great night gents, I have to get to work.
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/09/13 10:27 PM
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An albino doesn't change species just because it's an albino! Most record books recognize this and have committees to rule on the exceptions. Being out of standard, my preclude an animal's offspring from being registered, but it doesn't change it's species.
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/09/13 10:53 PM
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Maybe im just dumb but whats the difference in white sheep, and white hair sheep? Hair sheep have hair and wool sheep have wool.
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/09/13 11:01 PM
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So are we sure he's 100% pure mouflon?
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/09/13 11:29 PM
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So are we sure he's 100% pure mouflon? Are you sure he's not albino? I would say that the herd is Mouflon type, which makes an albino as much a possibility as a throwback, if not 100 pure. If the herd is 100% pure an albino is more likely than white. My point is that there is no way to flat say it's not a mouflon based on the pictures.
for every stereotype there's a prototype don't be the prototype
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/09/13 11:47 PM
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I am not sure of anything, and I hope I am in the same spirit of this thread as everyone else. Just having fun, not trying to be malicious. 
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/10/13 12:21 AM
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for every stereotype there's a prototype don't be the prototype
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/10/13 12:22 AM
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I am not sure of anything,
I am sure that whatever type of sheep it is, it isn't gonna taste good
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/10/13 01:05 AM
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? Sorry about that, I never meant for it to be that way, I hope your just yanking my chain. I was just fooling around, trying to get Wades' goat.
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/10/13 01:07 AM
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I am not sure of anything,
I am sure that whatever type of sheep it is, it isn't gonna taste good I have heard the best recipe for them is a variation on the oak board. In stead of a oak board you nail bolt it to leaf spring shock, cook the hell out of it until it turns blue and all the meat dissenigrates. Then make the leaf spring into a knife. Best recipe for sheep meat there is.
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/10/13 06:34 PM
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Mike Garcia
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/11/13 01:44 AM
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Mike Garcia, I can say positively 100% he is not Pure Mouflon based entirely on the Pics alone! I know this post has gone far enough and it is a big joke to some of you, but if any of you care to put your money where your mouth is, lets make a wager, any amount(the bigger the better)let's dart this ram, have him DNA tested and put this thing to rest....P.S. I am normally not a betting Man, but if any of you care to "put up" I just want you to know that your money will go to a good cause, it will be donated to Cooks Childrens Hospital Ft.Worth Texas!
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/11/13 01:45 AM
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Cool looking sheep though 
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/11/13 02:10 AM
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Hilonsome I'm not going to argue with you. What I said was, that if it's a true albino, there might be enough wiggle room for it to count as a Moufloun ,for scoring purposes, and that you can't see enough in the photos to say for sure. I used to have a line of albino squirrels around my house, but haven't seen one in about 6 months, I learned not to discount the possibility. I also had a Coopers Hawk show up about the time the albino squirrels disappeared.
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/11/13 02:39 AM
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Mike Garcia, I can say positively 100% he is not Pure Mouflon based entirely on the Pics alone! I know this post has gone far enough and it is a big joke to some of you, but if any of you care to put your money where your mouth is, lets make a wager, any amount(the bigger the better)let's dart this ram, have him DNA tested and put this thing to rest....P.S. I am normally not a betting Man, but if any of you care to "put up" I just want you to know that your money will go to a good cause, it will be donated to Cooks Childrens Hospital Ft.Worth Texas! Allways one trying to get in a pissing match over a littel fun........... Give it a rest, who gives a rats [censored] what it is. Its a rare sight and really cool to most of us on here. To be honest I dont give a rats behinde if it is a dall or not the horn shape makes most think that it is part mouflon, possible full or 1/4 who knows.
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/11/13 02:46 AM
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Mike Garcia, I can say positively 100% he is not Pure Mouflon based entirely on the Pics alone! I know this post has gone far enough and it is a big joke to some of you, but if any of you care to put your money where your mouth is, lets make a wager, any amount(the bigger the better)let's dart this ram, have him DNA tested and put this thing to rest....P.S. I am normally not a betting Man, but if any of you care to "put up" I just want you to know that your money will go to a good cause, it will be donated to Cooks Childrens Hospital Ft.Worth Texas! Dart him with a 270 right?
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/11/13 03:36 AM
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270 will work, Postmortem DNA is as good as Live.....If any of you read my initial post, I stated that he is a Beautiful Ram,He is my favorite type of Texas Dall, also I stated that I bred Sheep exactly like him for a time, I loved them, problem was I needed the pasture they were in to shuffle my Mouflon, also it always threw up a "red flag" when Buyers came from all over the U.S. to buy Pure Mouflon and seen White Sheep across the fence. Why is it that these "Sheep" posts always get so "out of hand" when someone posts a pic of an Axis Buck and calls it a Sika...those posts don't go on for 3 pages,Why?...because every one of you are educated on Cervid Species...hmmmm, was just trying to help shed some light, sorry for the hurt feelings...Adios.
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/11/13 03:45 AM
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duane
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So who is gonna be the trigger man?
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/11/13 04:03 AM
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So who is gonna be the trigger man? lol i think duane wants to sell him boys, whos the lucky one to get on him. Id be all over it if i seen it 4 weeks ago when i booked our Hunt with Don.
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Re: White Mouflon
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01/14/13 10:13 PM
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I don't have a dog in this fight but, I think y'all are missing the obvious. Looks like a Mouflon with color to me. I think the sun, or the flash distorts the picture and makes him look white. You can see where the darker color is if you look close.
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