Saw a black cat sitting on some hay this weekend. Make me do a double take as we drove by. Then I started to giggle. Thought about turning around, getting a picture, and posting it here to see how many people would give me crap about posting a picture of the neighbors cat. Just made me giggle!!

I just know I have seen them, and I can hear cats at night that aren't bobcats. When you hear the big cats squeal, you will know it. It sounds more like a little girl screaming than a cat.

While checking a tree stand/bait location for hog activity Sunday I noted some huge cat tracks in silt (no mud, just silt) near the stand. I may move a game camera there just for grins.

I think that will make a good challenge for me this spring. I can carry a camera everywhere I go just in case I see one....so I can prove someone wrong on an EBB. Just kidding, this is a fun forum and topic though!

I know people that have seen Foxes in our area too, but I haven't sene one, so I guess they are all wrong. What about the bear sightings near Ladonia a couple of years ago, guess the game warden and highway patrolman that told me about them were wrong too. I can't find it on the internet where there is any mention of bears in this part of Texas.

Not jumping in here to pile on with txcornhusker, but foxes are all over the state, and people can go years in between sightings while other people see them everyday. Bears are beginning to show up in different parts of the state, east Texas, Big Bend, the Panhandle. None of us arguing about those sightings. None of us dispute it when somebody says that they have seen a mountain lion, and as I said earlier, game cam pictures, I think would be harder to fake, so some of us might be more inclined to think about the possibility of black mountain lions if someone got some pictures of one on a game cam. Trying to say that we think those reports of foxes and bears and mountain lions are wrong, ain't the case. In my case, I just don't believe that black mountain lions exist. Not in the wild, not in zoos, no museum skins, no actual physical proof, no where. You can believe in what you want too, I have no problem with that, I just ain't gonna believe it.

How do you know what your hearing at night is a cat it might be a little girl or somebody with some kind of call( if you cant see it you dont know for sure) . I know alot of people in your area that swear they seen a black panther one is my dad, but I think he seen something else that he just thought was a black panther. I'm do not believe they exist but that is just my opinion ( who knows I might change my mind if I call one in one of these nights). I do know there are foxes in your area because I have called a few in. And yes we do or did have bears in fannin co. I seen pictures that a buddy took of them.

First be sure that I am talking in a friendly mood, the way I always do. Life is too short to stay mad about something...

I guess my point is that if we can't say something does exist without pictures just because we saw it, then how do we believe what others saw without pictures?

I guess I am too trusting a soul, because if I believe you, then I believe what you say you saw, until you have proven not to be believable.

I don't think either side can "win" this one, kinda like Fords and CHevy's, oh wait, we all know FORDS are much better !!!!!!!

Have fun all, come see us when you are down our way! (Or up our way)

And yes we do or did have bears in fannin co. I seen pictures that a buddy took of them.

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Would you have believed him if he didn't have pictures of the bear(s)?

Geez.

This thread has gone on so long, now I'm confused. Is the argument that Black Panthers do not exist period, or they do not exist in Texas or the US?

Good question!!!!! Seems the actual debate has change a bit.

If I had enough money I would buy one of these http://www.cathouse-fcc.org/blackleopard.html and lay claim to killing it here in young county!

Repeat after me. Black Leopards and Black Jaguars do exist.

Jaguars are or were native to the U.S., I am not sure if any, or how many black ones have been recorded in the U.S., or Texas.

There has never been an authenticated record of a Black Mountain Lion, in the U.S. or Texas, and Mountain Lions are a native animal, and their numbers are in question in Texas.
There are probably a lot more lions in Texas, than ANYONE has an idea of.

That, No Authenticated Record, covers a little over 500 years. No hides, no specimens, no births to captive held mountain lions, no mention of black mountain lions in Indian Lore, no mention of black mountain lions in any of the accounts of lion hunters, such as Ben Lilly, no black ones ran over.

It is totally amazing, that these animals have managed to stay out of the way of dogs, automobiles, traps, snares, and folks like me.

Would I like to see one actually caught or shot, HELL YES.

Do I really believe it will happen, EVER, NO --- .

Rnadall, why did you reply to me? I was just trying to keep this thread going!! Oh, wait...it worked!!

See, it is great to keep this going, besides replying to u is fun txcohrnhucker.???

Ditto!!

I hope yall get this thing settled at the get-together. Man.

Not a chance in Hell !!!!

Saw a post on the refuge about a recent big cat sighting around Texoma area.

I'll bet it was black!!

cards, beer, and black panthers i cant wait they are real i saw some on the tv on mlk day too

http://www.refugeforums.com/refuge/showthread.php?t=414348

Try this.

Thanks for posting that. If it wasn't that I like this forum so much, I would transfer to that one. Those guys are duck hunters yet they are all talking about going out and trying to shoot the thing, and no mention of it being black.

That danged topic on the Migratory Bird area about helping people has passed this one so this pot needs to be stirred some more.

Remember, this one has nothing to do with normal colored mountain lions, cause we all know those exist, and probably in lot more numbers than TP&W estimates. As I have said beforeTP&W is just wanting to get a fairly accurate estimate as to how many cats might be out there, so they can re-classify them as a game animal, and come up with a special license or stamp.JMO

The question is if those duck hunters on the other site shot one, would they tell anyone where they shot it or keep it to themselves. Maybe it would have a brother or sister!!

You don't want the woods overran with Black Panther hunters or the honey hole would get shot out!!!

Excuse me for my ignorance, I never thought about that.

I saw a black looking cat dart around the farm once-
turns out he fried himself in the wires of my
transformer.