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Re: I want to share a bad experience with a hunter.
[Re: Resident Quack]
#3817198
12/05/12 05:49 AM
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Joined: Oct 2012
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SnakeAR
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Woodsman
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First off, just want to state I have never been on an outfitted hunt of any kind. I do use lots of different services where I tip people, and own my own business where I get tips. My question is for all the guys that say they had a bad experience with a hunt but still gave a tip. I don't understand this. If I go to a resturant and get bad service, No tip.......good service Big tip. So, why is a hunt any different?
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Re: I want to share a bad experience with a hunter.
[Re: Resident Quack]
#3817445
12/05/12 01:22 PM
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don k
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Don's good people. He worked with me just fine a couple years ago when I wanted to take my wife hunting. I didn;t know when I would get home but said I would go whenever he had openings once I got home. IDK if i sent him a deposit or not but I stayed in touch with him for sure. Got home, loaded up the Mrs. and she shot a nice 9pt the first morning! Te headed to Fredericksburg afterwards for her to spend the rest of her hunt money antique shopping. Lol Her only complaint was she would ahve shot the 8pt cause it would have been cheaper and she coulda spent more money shopping. If I didn;t get on a lease the next year we would have seen Don again for sure! Thanks and that was the way to do it. If you don't know exactly when you can go but you do want to go give the place you want to hunt a heads up on that. Don't book a certain day or days then cancel then change to another certain day or days then cancel again. I realize things come up where you may have to cancel once. But after the second time it starts to get old.
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Re: I want to share a bad experience with a hunter.
[Re: Resident Quack]
#3821420
12/06/12 04:32 PM
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Uncle Nicky
Light Foot
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Light Foot
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I ran a busy deer processing operation, I could write a book about "bad" hunters. Guys showing up drunk at 11:30 at night wanting to drop deer off. Guys who shot a small doe 3X and expecting a 100# box of meat. Guys who dropped dead deer off when it's 80 degrees and I was out of town hunting that weekend (ever hear of calling first?). Guys who "field dress" their deer, but really just take out the intestines. And, guys who drop their deer off, but are broke when it's time to pick them up. One moron (who claimed to be my "best" customer, since he gave my name & number to 10 dimwits just like him) dropped off a deer in early October. I called numerous times to tell him to pick it up, he promised to stop by the next day. I turned off all my freezers in February, & donated his meat to a food bank. He finally called in March, wanting to come get it, I told him stand in line at the soup kitchen, they are probably serving it for dinner today. He threatened to come by & whoop me, yeah, thanks for the warning buddy, LOL. So yeah, the door swings both ways. A few bad apples in every barrel.
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Re: I want to share a bad experience with a hunter.
[Re: Uncle Nicky]
#3821587
12/06/12 05:20 PM
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STXHO
THF Trophy Hunter
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My favorite are the guys that ask you to put their gun together when they get to the camp or they show up with a new rifle in the box and the scope in another box. Or, the people that think since you are going on a guided hunt it is a guarantee. Or the ones that constantly point their gun at you, then when you call the hunt a day early and send them home because you feel like you are going to get shot at any moment they are lost and dont understand why?
I think that all of the outfitters on here will agree with me..... It takes a very patient person to do what we do.
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Re: I want to share a bad experience with a hunter.
[Re: Mri2biteback]
#3821817
12/06/12 06:41 PM
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deewayne2003
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I would like to know as a hunter what are the reasons that a outfitter wouldn't have a hunter back. Not trying to start crap but have a better understanding ?? 1. Get Pi$$ed off when I tell you not to take a 200yd shot with your M4 .223 with open sights; I DON'T CARE if you were a Marine or your cousin was a Navy SEAL and taught you how to shoot!(Yes I have heard both from "Hunters") 2. Deny shooting anything, only to have dead animal carcasses show up with your arrows in them after you leave. 3. My all time favorite was a guy who got really sour with me after he refused to bow hunt the stand I told him to....another hunter wanted to hunt it and shot a 150" buck at 10yds with a rifle but it was my fault for being "partial to rifle hunters!"......WTF?????
Last edited by deewayne2003; 12/06/12 06:44 PM.
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Re: I want to share a bad experience with a hunter.
[Re: deewayne2003]
#3821850
12/06/12 06:49 PM
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txshntr
T-Rex Arms
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T-Rex Arms
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If I was guessing, there are more "bad hunters stories" than "bad outfitter stories."
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Re: I want to share a bad experience with a hunter.
[Re: txshntr]
#3821858
12/06/12 06:52 PM
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sweetwilliam
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If I was guessing, there are more "bad hunters stories" than "bad outfitter stories." I bet you are correct on that!
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Re: I want to share a bad experience with a hunter.
[Re: txshntr]
#3821912
12/06/12 07:07 PM
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GOLDSTEIN
THF Trophy Hunter
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THF Trophy Hunter
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If I was guessing, there are more "bad hunters stories" than "bad outfitter stories." YUP!!!
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Re: I want to share a bad experience with a hunter.
[Re: GOLDSTEIN]
#3821956
12/06/12 07:20 PM
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Mike Honcho
THF Trophy Hunter
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You betcha ur in the outfitters & guide portion of the hunters. Lol it's hardly ever our fault jk. On both sides of the fence there are people that have showed fault. Take the KSO position on tips and reneging and well look at some of the stories of clients.
“Two things that define an individual what you do when you have everything, and what you do when you have nothing."
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Re: I want to share a bad experience with a hunter.
[Re: txshntr]
#3822982
12/07/12 12:56 AM
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Otto
Bird Dog
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If I was guessing, there are more "bad hunters stories" than "bad outfitter stories." Probaby.But the fact of the matter is bad hunter stories will not effect the hunter in any way, however bad outfitter stories will put you out of business.
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Re: I want to share a bad experience with a hunter.
[Re: Otto]
#3823249
12/07/12 02:09 AM
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dawaba
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I've been hunting with various outfitters (2-4 yearly) for nigh on 35 years. With few exceptions, almost every outfitter will bend over backwards for his hunter. I have shared camps with an amazing assortment of whining, surly, and often drunk hunters, but I can count on 3 fingers the number of similarly disposed guides.
Just an empirical observation from this lifetime hunter: For every irresponsible outfitter, there are a dozen hunters who are total jerks.
That said, amiable and capable hunters outnumber the jerk hunters 20 to one!
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple.....and wrong." H. L. Mencken
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Re: I want to share a bad experience with a hunter.
[Re: don k]
#3855387
12/17/12 04:14 AM
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boxroutfitters
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Tracker
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Been there had them!!!!! Most are good but there are some you don't want back!!!
Life is like a mountain railroad---- Jerry Lee Lewis
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Re: I want to share a bad experience with a hunter.
[Re: boxroutfitters]
#3856453
12/17/12 03:35 PM
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,156
Phantom
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Over the years I have had a bunch of them. My all time favorite was a guy on a whitetail hunt a few years ago. He was a guest of another hunter. when going out to the stand I found out he had just gotten out of prison for killing a person and that he is not even supposed to have a gun. Needless to say they will not come back. It would be nice if hunters would bring binoculars with them for starters but that would be another topic I imagine.
Good is the enemy of Great
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Re: I want to share a bad experience with a hunter.
[Re: boxroutfitters]
#3856456
12/17/12 03:35 PM
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Posts: 11,681
DSST_Construction
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Cant we we just agree that a few bad apples ruin it for all people,
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Re: I want to share a bad experience with a hunter.
[Re: DSST_Construction]
#3856884
12/17/12 05:47 PM
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Joined: May 2006
Posts: 31,055
HWY_MAN
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I've only run into one bad outfitter. First off he was a nice guy it's just the rest of his operation that I didn't like. All I'll is TT and that don't stand for tip top.
Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: I want to share a bad experience with a hunter.
[Re: HWY_MAN]
#3859311
12/18/12 01:09 PM
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sqiggy
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What is scary, is when a hunter accidently discharges his firearm, right at the truck with other people all around. Happened 3 times in one year about 3 yrs ago. Sad when their hunt is over before it ever started.
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Re: I want to share a bad experience with a hunter.
[Re: HWY_MAN]
#3861039
12/18/12 08:41 PM
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Posts: 2,049
bayourat
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I've only run into one bad outfitter. First off he was a nice guy it's just the rest of his operation that I didn't like. All I'll is TT and that don't stand for tip top. Hey he buys all our sheep and goats that are to tame for petting zoos.
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