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Barrel cooling question
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10/16/12 11:50 PM
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When working up a load, how many rounds do you shoot before you let the barrel cool down?
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/16/12 11:52 PM
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Trey Kuenslter
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That came out a little dirty...giggity....ummm i usually let mine cool down after about 45 shots
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/16/12 11:57 PM
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That came out a little dirty...giggity....ummm i usually let mine cool down after about 45 shots I am talking about the a "RIFLE BARREL"......(That was kind of funny though)
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/16/12 11:58 PM
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/17/12 01:26 PM
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4 to 5 rounds. I'll shoot 4-5 rounds (normally 5), then let the barrel cool down to outside temp. This takes about 15-20 minutes to cool down. I normally test 2-3 rifles at a time, and rotate shooting them. If the rifle is a factory, unbedded rifle, and the hotter it gets, the more it can walk around on you. It also depends on the caliber (magnum or non-magnum), how fast you are pushing it, and how big the barrel is. The thinner the barrel, the less rounds you will get before it heats up and starts to walk on you. The thin pencil barrels are the worst for this, even on full custom rifles.
If you are just starting load work up, you can try 3 rounds at a time to see what the rifle likes. Once you find a sweet spot, you can load more and test further. Also, I test all my hunting guns at 200 yards, and long range guns at 300 yards. This way you can actually see the difference in group size better. Because what's the actual difference between a .5" and .6" group at 100 yards?
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/17/12 01:54 PM
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When working up a load, how many rounds do you shoot before you let the barrel cool down? 5 Shoot 5 at 500 yards. Record the data. Get on the 4 wheeler and drive out to the target, label powder charge on the target, record group size. Barrel is usually good to go by then. And I only top load, no rounds in the mag. That makes a bit more time go by from shot to shot. But I run fairly heavy barrels so I don't have to go quite as slow as Chad mentioned he has to with the thin hunting barrels.
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/17/12 02:01 PM
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I normally will shoot three rounds and then let it cool off to ambient temperature.
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10/17/12 02:06 PM
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This is why I like to shoot in the winter/fall. My 300 wby will for all practicle purposes never cool if you shoot during the summer.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/17/12 02:12 PM
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3 ~ 5 depending on ambient temp.
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/17/12 02:47 PM
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depends on caliber. barrel should be warm but not hot. my 7mag is hot to the touch after 3 rounds
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/17/12 04:10 PM
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another trick I like to do is the round robin trick (assuming same bullet and powder with just varying powder charges. I put out X amount of targets and then rotate with the various powder charges. load 1 gets 1 round to target 1 load 2 gets 1 round to target 2 etc.. Then I come back to load 1, target 1, 1 round then load 2, 1 round to target 2 etc.. That helps with getting a better average as the bullet heats up. With a light hunting barrel I usually run 3 shots to get a quick picture of what the gun likes for a charge. Then start working around that accuracy node in smaller powder increments and I go up to 5 and then finally 10 round tests. Sometimes I really enjoy load development.. Sometimes it feels like work  Like Chad said, pencil thin hunting barrels are a pain and I usually bring several guns to allow them to cool off..
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/17/12 04:43 PM
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I have the notion that the sun makes a difference too. The way the sun is now, my shooting spot gets sun for a few hours in the middle of the day. With the rifle sitting in it's spot, and without shooting it, the barrel will get very hot to touch. What seems even worse to me is that the sun doesn't heat it evenly, the heat is only coming from one side. It may really make no difference, but I don't shoot targets when the sun is shining down on the barrel like that...
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/17/12 06:21 PM
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A friend of mine told me a story of how he would keep a cooler full of ice water next to him while he was shooting. In the cooler was two towels soaking. After he'd shoot a string he would wrap the barrel with the cool towel, remove the towel and carry on shooting.
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/17/12 06:41 PM
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Yes. I have done the ice cold towel and wrapped the barrel with it. It works very well in the summer time.
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/17/12 06:49 PM
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One thing not mentioned is that some bbls go thru a different mfg process than others..Some were stamped from a block of steel svl. bbls at a time and they bend/warp..The factorys have a man that does nothing but bend them the oppisite way and back straight..all of which affects harmonics..I've found on my old 40X 300 Win made in 68, and on my newer TRG that they didn't and do not heat up nor seem to change POI as much as the others..My Rem 22-250 even w/a heavy bbl heats up some in hot wthr..So much has to do with the bbl and way it was mfg'd. I also see a lot of shooters who shoot their weapons hot until they run out of ammo, rarely clean them, and when they do..don't do a good job..So I think much of this has to due with application as well as mfg..DD
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/18/12 12:57 AM
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/18/12 02:07 AM
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Great idea!! What if you don't have electricity where you shoot!!?
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/18/12 02:54 AM
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Great idea!! What if you don't have electricity where you shoot!!? 12 volts. Just clamp to your vehicle battery. Polarity does make a difference but very easy to sort out. Stone cold barrel in about 4 minutes. If you have electricity then make one out of an electric leaf blower - that really blows (no pun intended).
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/18/12 03:06 AM
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/18/12 05:31 AM
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I used to see guys at the IMHSA meets do something similiar on a smaller scale using a fan and a large funnel.
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/18/12 07:00 AM
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There is this too it looks kinda interesting but seems like it would help with cooling. http://www.jprifles.com/1.4.5_hs.php
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/18/12 07:01 PM
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the JP device works, I have ran one of a 3 gun (one of their uppers)
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/18/12 07:03 PM
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Re: Barrel cooling question
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10/18/12 11:13 PM
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Dirty the barrel with 10 shots. 50 if it's crome lined.
5 rounds, cool. 5 rounds...cool.
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