Ok, so how far can this gun shoot with the 20" barrel accurately? It looks like a pretty sweet gun and good for the money.

That's a loaded question. How accurate is accurate to you? And how accurate are you shooting it? Factory rifle with factory ammo, it will shoot about 3/4 to 1 moa at distance. Good custom ammo for the rifle, maybe 1/2 to 3/4 moa.

It depends on which bullet you are running for the maximum effective range of the round. the heavier and higher BC you get, the better. But, if you are running a 175 SMK or 178 A-max at normal speeds, about 1000 to 1100 yards is max.

Depending on bullet & load as far as any other .308.
IMO, Accuracy is more dependent on the one mushing the trigger.
I have factory rifles that far exceed any reasonable expectation of a basically out of the box rifle, on the other hand I've had customs that weren't worth a 1 lb bag of beans.

Which 20" .308 M700 are you asking about, some will shoot better than others.

SPS tactical
SPS tactical AAC-SD
SPS tactical blackhawk axiom
LTR ( light tactical rifle )
5R

I had a 20" SPS tactical that would do 1/2" groups out of the box at 100 yards. I was only able to shoot at 600 one time and I was getting about 6" groups and I never shoot long range so I'm sure those could shrink in the right hands or if I practiced. I ended up trading mine for an S70 Colt I couldn't resist but I will probably get another one eventually and a 20" barrel is a must for me. I would venture a guess that 100 yards would be no problem with the right scope/rail.

You can also get a 20MOA rail to get a little more range out of it.

Agreed, it's a loaded question.

However, my buddy has the exact gun, the one with the B&C stock from the factory, and he can shoot3" groups at 400yds fairly consistently with good ammo.

Well I'll probly be shooting lots of factory rounds but maybe a few custom loads. I would like to be able to hit a deer or hog 300 yards away. I was concerned with the 20" barrel, I was afraid it might be a little short for long range.

My first one managed a best group of 3/4 with hunting ammo, the next two ran 1/3 or better. Shooting an ltr same rifle better stock and fluted that shoots 1/3. They should shoot better than you and 300 should be just fine. I greatly prefer the 20" barrel when sitting in a box blind.

Alright so here are the two that I'm deciding between

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/42070

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/remingto...sh-p-96849.html

I'm really not sure which one would be better here.mi like the tactical 20" but I like the long range capabilities of the other. If you where to pick one which would it be? Keep in mind I'll be shooting between 25 yards and 600 yards.

Anyone?

The shorter barrel one, or which ever has a thicker barrel.

Is there a reason why? I don't doubt you at all I'm just wondering.

20" is plenty capable for long range. If I was in your shoes...and I am, Id get the 20". I just built a long range rifle off a savage action in 6.5 creedmoor. I was planning on it being a 100-1000 yd capable rifle. It will in fact do that for me but what Ive discovered quickly is that the 26" long barrel and heavy gun are a pain to lug around and get in and out of brush and deer blinds. Consequently Im now getting ready to get a light weight hunting rifle with a 3x9 scope on it for taking to the lease and saving the 6.5 for what it is best for which is long range precision shooting. Ill still take my long gun out for hunting at the ranch but there are plenty of 20" barreled guns that will reach out plenty far and 600+ yards is no problem for them.

I have an sps tactical and it shoots absolutly amazing with 150gr federals. here is my target from friday at 300yrds. All I've done to it is put it in a Mcmillan A-5 stock and put a zeiss 4.5-14x50 scope on it.

That's awesome, thanks. I really needed to know that.

Shorter barrels are more stiff than long barrels, and can have an accuracy advantage. The heavier the barrel, the more stiff to shoot better, and not heat up as fast.

My SPS shoots the exact same as that one. Stupid accurate

I had a 26" barreled 700 308 and I had it cut it down to 24" barrel just because it was a pain to lug around. 2" made a big difference

2" always makes a difference haha
Thanks for the help guys, I was really leaning towards the bull barrel tactical model but wasn't sure. I REALLY appreciate it!

Go 20"

20" for sure man. You might go with the upgraded model with the nicer stock though, the hogue left a lot to be desired for me. Of course you can add one later.

The only thing that you may consider is the AAC model as it is a 1 in 10" which will stabilize heavier bullets a bit better.

I went with the SPS Varmit instead of the Tactical because it was cheaper and I knew I'd be replacing the stock. These guns are very accurate out of the box with factory ammo. With an upgraded stock, aftermarket trigger and handloads these guns are ridicously accurate. I've considering having the action trued and an aftermarket barrel put on the gun, but can't justify the cost because the gun shoots way above my ability.

My only regret is not going with the shorter barreled Tactical model.

Joe

What heavier bullets will a 1:10" twist shoot that a 1:12" can't shoot? A 208 A-max can stabilze out of a 1:12 if you push it fast. But realistically, you won't shoot anything heavier than a 190 SMK, and most shoot a 175/178 as the heaviest, which either twist will shoot just fine.

Hey Chad,

Will the 1 in 10" do a better job with the subsonics? Most subs I have seen are 208 grain. I am currently contemplating this same thing....1/10 or 1/12.

Thanks,
Doc