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 Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/02/12 11:52 PM
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Nosler makes factory ammo for the 280AI. You just need to make sure that your chamber is cut to the Nosler SAAMI specs.
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/03/12 12:25 AM
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Custom gun, short action would be 7mm-08
Long action, probably another .270
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/03/12 01:14 AM
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id say build a custom varmint gun in one of the varmint calbers since that is probably what you will use the most.
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/03/12 01:36 AM
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/03/12 02:41 AM
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I don't really consider this a mag but it is belted and that 257wby
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/03/12 02:47 AM
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/03/12 02:53 AM
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I don't really consider this a mag but it is belted and that 257wby There is no way you can't consider it a magnum it uses ungodly amounts of powder and lets not talk about the added recoil and muzzle blast it adds over the 25-06 for a mere 100-200fps.
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/03/12 03:02 AM
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/03/12 03:05 AM
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Long action (if you handload)- 6.5-06
Short action- 260
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/03/12 03:14 AM
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/03/12 03:15 AM
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I don't really consider this a mag but it is belted and that 257wby There is no way you can't consider it a magnum it uses ungodly amounts of powder and lets not talk about the added recoil and muzzle blast it adds over the 25-06 for a mere 100-200fps. Lol, we are still talking recoil under a 270...... In fact 80gr ttsx recoil less in my 257 the 100gr tsx in my 25-06. When most people think mag the think recoil of 7mag, 300mag, wsm's, 338..etc. I wouldn't put the little 25 bore in same realm, recoil wise
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/03/12 03:16 AM
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Short action - 260 is 1st choice or a 6.5x284 will fit best in a in M70 SA.
Long action - ummm a 338-'06 would be fun, but a 9.3x62 most likely, however a 9.3x64 Brenneke will stretch a M70 LA receiver plumb full like the SAKO 9.3x66 does and go as fast as a 375 H&H in comparable bullet weights, or a 375 Scoville and get really close to a H&H performance wise on a regular '06 case to take advantage of the 375 bullet selections.
OBTW the 7mm Brenneke's will duplicate a 7RMg speed wise on a '06 length case, I'm told...but brass is a PIA to find and very spendy and cannot be made from something else because of the diameter at the case head.
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/03/12 05:02 AM
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Short - 7mm-08
Long - .280 Rem.
I already have too many .264 caliber rifles so I went with other calibers.
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/03/12 05:52 AM
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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I don't really consider this a mag but it is belted and that 257wby There is no way you can't consider it a magnum it uses ungodly amounts of powder and lets not talk about the added recoil and muzzle blast it adds over the 25-06 for a mere 100-200fps. Lol, we are still talking recoil under a 270...... In fact 80gr ttsx recoil less in my 257 the 100gr tsx in my 25-06. When most people think mag the think recoil of 7mag, 300mag, wsm's, 338..etc. I wouldn't put the little 25 bore in same realm, recoil wise It's still the king magnum of the quarter bores. I'll agree recoil isn't really even a factor, what I meant is when loaded with same bullets the 257 will have more, that speed has a cost.
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/04/12 12:59 AM
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I don't really consider this a mag but it is belted and that 257wby There is no way you can't consider it a magnum it uses ungodly amounts of powder and lets not talk about the added recoil and muzzle blast it adds over the 25-06 for a mere 100-200fps. Lol, we are still talking recoil under a 270...... In fact 80gr ttsx recoil less in my 257 the 100gr tsx in my 25-06. When most people think mag the think recoil of 7mag, 300mag, wsm's, 338..etc. I wouldn't put the little 25 bore in same realm, recoil wise It's still the king magnum of the quarter bores. I'll agree recoil isn't really even a factor, what I meant is when loaded with same bullets the 257 will have more, that speed has a cost. What added recoil you get from the .257wby more than makes up for the performance; and its not 100-200fps more At 200yds the .257Wby has 300+ more ft.lbs of energy and over 300fps faster; and thats with the exact same 100gr TSX bullet. Roy weatherby said "If you got a .257Wby and a .300Wby then youve got all but the dangerous 5 covered" This from a guy that killed a cape buffalo with the .257wby As for a non-magnum custom other than .257wby I would get a 30-06
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/04/12 01:01 AM
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338.06 AI in a mauser action.
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/04/12 02:22 AM
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/04/12 02:31 AM
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I have some magic beans if anyone is interested. No extra time hunting but they'll make you fart to the tune of Back In Black...
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/04/12 02:34 AM
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dee
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What added recoil you get from the .257wby more than makes up for the performance; and its not 100-200fps more
At 200yds the .257Wby has 300+ more ft.lbs of energy and over 300fps faster; and thats with the exact same 100gr TSX bullet.
Roy weatherby said "If you got a .257Wby and a .300Wby then youve got all but the dangerous 5 covered"
This from a guy that killed a cape buffalo with the .257wby
As for a non-magnum custom other than .257wby I would get a 30-06
I would love to see the data behind that Nosler and Sierra show 200fps spread with 110(Nosler) and 117(Hornady) at max speads. Sierra with both running 100gr bullets is only 100FPS.
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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10/04/12 02:38 AM
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Well the only factory 100gr tsx is via federal for the 25-06 and then you have the weather by ammo for the 257wby
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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Federal ammo 100gr tsx
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100 Barnes TSX .257wby weather by ammo
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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Velocity
100 Barnes TSX. 257wby weather by ammo .420
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Disclaimer No idea what length barrel they used
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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Not saying anything's wrong with that data but if the exact same bullet is used energy and velocity will bleed off at similar amounts which would lead one to think the spread would remain uniform throughout not shrink.
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Re: What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?
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338.06 AI in a mauser action. I like that! I almost put 8mm-06.
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