Forums46
Topics538,346
Posts9,736,071
Members87,082
|
Most Online25,604 Feb 12th, 2024
|
|
|
michael waddell
#3578352
09/17/12 01:13 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 4,359
txhunter1010
OP
Extreme Tracker
|
OP
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 4,359 |
Saw where he made a 83 yard bow show on an elk.........that is a long way out there!!! a person woudl ahve time to shoot, put your bow down and get your camera out and take a picture before the arrow got there.
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: txhunter1010]
#3578386
09/17/12 01:25 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,947
Curtis
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,947 |
It can be done. It's not a shot that I am comfortable taking. But I know when I hunted in Arizona years ago there were guy I saw making kill shots on antelope out to 62 yards. Watching them take the shot was incredible. My opinion though, I'm not comfortable taking that long of a shot. I feel better at 35 yards and under. At least on Elk there is a farily large kill zone on that size of game so I can see it happening, just not by me.
Double Arrow Bow Hunting www.doublearrowbowhunting.comBow hunters welcome! Whitetail-Axis-Blackbuck-Fallow-Barasingha-Scimitar Oryx Located in Gonzales County. Visit our Facebook page for current updates!
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: Curtis]
#3578407
09/17/12 01:32 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 4,359
txhunter1010
OP
Extreme Tracker
|
OP
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 4,359 |
yeah i wouldnt even attempt it. 40 is my MAX
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: txhunter1010]
#3578604
09/17/12 02:35 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,187
OFBHWG
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,187 |
Thats how he makes his living & he is good at what he does.
When you need a Piano moved there is always someone around to help you with the stool!
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: txhunter1010]
#3578614
09/17/12 02:38 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 29,042
Western
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 29,042 |
I know a large ranch in Colorado, (know the owners) that have Elk and deer hunts, they discontinued allowing bow hunts because to many bow hunters took the "hail Mary" shots wounding to many UN-recoverable Bulls. I know there are some competent bow hunters, but some times it pays to wait or close the distance.
If at first you dont succeed, then skydiving is not for you..
"Don't trust everything you read on the Internet"- Abraham Lincoln Dennis
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: Western]
#3578653
09/17/12 02:50 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 8,719
cameron00
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 8,719 |
Maybe they edit out the misses, but everything I've seen from him leads me to believe he's an excellent shot with a bow.
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: cameron00]
#3578663
09/17/12 02:55 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,453
dfwroadkill
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,453 |
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: cameron00]
#3578667
09/17/12 02:56 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 44,461
rifleman
Sparkly Pants
|
Sparkly Pants
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 44,461 |
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: rifleman]
#3578678
09/17/12 02:58 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 174
tlh3842
Woodsman
|
Woodsman
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 174 |
That is a really long ways..bad thing is, people will watch yes how and see him do it then think they can and end up wounding animals cause they thought If he could they could
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: tlh3842]
#3578705
09/17/12 03:06 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,074
Justin T
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,074 |
I'm not a bow hunter...BUT, at 80 yards (240 feet), assuming a fps of around 350 on a bow, that is almost 7/10 of a second, versus half that for a 40 yard shot. That is not accounting for the fact that the arrow will have slowed down considerably at 80 yards, so you are likely looking at a full second. An animal can move a lot in that time. Don't think I'd ever take a shot like that.
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: Justin T]
#3578749
09/17/12 03:19 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 32,527
kmon11
junior
|
junior
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 32,527 |
Weren't Waddel and T-Bone both tournament archers before getting into current line of work. I have shot with people that were defiantly capable of those type of shots, just as some riflemen are fully capable of 800 yard shots. Those are not for all. A person should know their limitations and stay well within them.
One guy that was that good back in the early 80s I shot with some could do it with bows a lot slower than the ones in use today. Watched him with my bow that shot 220fps put 6 of 6 arrows in a skoal can at 60 yards after 2 shots at 20 yards with that bow. That year he quit deer hunting with 17 deer bagged when duck season opened, and he duck hunted with a bow. That was when the limit in Mississippi was a buck a day
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: kmon11]
#3578777
09/17/12 03:26 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,947
Curtis
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,947 |
Weren't Waddel and T-Bone both tournament archers before getting into current line of work. I have shot with people that were defiantly capable of those type of shots, just as some riflemen are fully capable of 800 yard shots. Those are not for all. A person should know their limitations and stay well within them.
One guy that was that good back in the early 80s I shot with some could do it with bows a lot slower than the ones in use today. Watched him with my bow that shot 220fps put 6 of 6 arrows in a skoal can at 60 yards after 2 shots at 20 yards with that bow. That year he quit deer hunting with 17 deer bagged when duck season opened, and he duck hunted with a bow. That was when the limit in Mississippi was a buck a day Agreed. I think most people stay within their own limitations and use their own common sense to judge their abilities. I don't think its fair to say a lot of people would see him doing it and go and try it just because they saw him do it. I say that with confidence from bow hunters that I have seen take shots on practice targets out to 50 and 60 yards and seldom practice that far and then tell me they want set up a lot closer than that and feel comfortable at under 30 yards. I get a few that forget that they are shooting at something at 10 yards and use their 20 yd pin and it hits high and we have a heck of a tracking job to do. That happens more often than I see people missing at 30-40 yards ranges. You have to know your own limitations and practice those ranges daily to be good enough to try a shot at something that far.
Double Arrow Bow Hunting www.doublearrowbowhunting.comBow hunters welcome! Whitetail-Axis-Blackbuck-Fallow-Barasingha-Scimitar Oryx Located in Gonzales County. Visit our Facebook page for current updates!
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: Curtis]
#3578790
09/17/12 03:30 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,074
Justin T
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,074 |
I have no doubt some can make 80 yard shots, but you cannot control the animal at that range. To each their own, but it seems like a bad idea to me.
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: Justin T]
#3578826
09/17/12 03:41 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 4,753
Nathan Nelson
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 4,753 |
I'm not a bow hunter...BUT, at 80 yards (240 feet), assuming a fps of around 350 on a bow, that is almost 7/10 of a second, versus half that for a 40 yard shot. That is not accounting for the fact that the arrow will have slowed down considerably at 80 yards, so you are likely looking at a full second. An animal can move a lot in that time. Don't think I'd ever take a shot like that. Targets will stand still for ever, this comment is right on the money...
Last edited by Nathan Nelson; 09/17/12 03:41 PM.
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: Nathan Nelson]
#3578849
09/17/12 03:55 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 32,527
kmon11
junior
|
junior
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 32,527 |
I'm not a bow hunter...BUT, at 80 yards (240 feet), assuming a fps of around 350 on a bow, that is almost 7/10 of a second, versus half that for a 40 yard shot. That is not accounting for the fact that the arrow will have slowed down considerably at 80 yards, so you are likely looking at a full second. An animal can move a lot in that time. Don't think I'd ever take a shot like that. Targets will stand still for ever, this comment is right on the money... Have made the same point many times on here about long range rifle shooting.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: kmon11]
#3578869
09/17/12 04:02 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 32,004
txtrophy85
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 32,004 |
My broker has smoked a Muley deer at 93 yards and antelope at 78
He can hit a block target at 120.
I get nervous shooting at a target past 60 yards.
Some people have different skill sets than others.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: txtrophy85]
#3579191
09/17/12 05:58 PM
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 8,166
westtexaswatkins
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 8,166 |
More power too him. I'm sure he gets to practice more than most of us and does it for a living. I wish I was that good. I tend to keep them 40 or less but not going to knock him for getting it done. One of the few guys on TV I still like watching. Him, T-bone and Nick are some funny dudes.
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: westtexaswatkins]
#3579234
09/17/12 06:09 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 357
Maglite
Bird Dog
|
Bird Dog
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 357 |
That's a long shot but very doable with practice. I shot a whitetail doe in Ohio at 53 yrds and was comfortable with it. I was shooting a Bowtech Destroyer 350 with 426grains with my broadhead and bow is set at 73lbs
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: Maglite]
#3579350
09/17/12 06:47 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,688
Walkabout
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,688 |
Yeah helluva shot. I'm sure he was confident in taking the shot. Would like to know if he got a pass through and how far they had to trail.
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: Walkabout]
#3579694
09/17/12 08:14 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 447
doublecexotics
Bird Dog
|
Bird Dog
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 447 |
thats a long shot with a bow i wouldnt do it but hey im not Michael Waddell B-)
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: doublecexotics]
#3579775
09/17/12 08:32 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 911
onetime
Tracker
|
Tracker
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 911 |
I have practiced 60 yard shots and was getting good. I wouldn't take that shot on a deer, on a hog, yes sir. Michael does this for a living and I would hazard a guess he has practiced that yardage time and time again and he may feel comfortable at that yardage.
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: Justin T]
#3579793
09/17/12 08:36 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,740
passthru
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,740 |
I have no doubt some can make 80 yard shots, but you cannot control the animal at that range. To each their own, but it seems like a bad idea to me. This.
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: passthru]
#3579813
09/17/12 08:43 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,841
DocHorton
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,841 |
He ain't got nothing on Tim Wells....
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: DocHorton]
#3579921
09/17/12 09:15 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 358
Deer Junky
Bird Dog
|
Bird Dog
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 358 |
It can be done, but they don't show you all of the bad shots/wounded animals they hit.
Just watch their backyard archery tournament videos. They only nail those shots every so often, and that's under ideal circumstances usually. Flat footed, level ground, no buck fever, etc. But, as stated above the margin of error is significantly increased on an elk. Just my .02
Eternity in heaven or hell will be measured on a yardstick. The 10 inches between the brain and heart is the greatest chasm between God and Man.
We can fool ourselves, but we cannot fool God.
|
|
|
Re: michael waddell
[Re: kmon11]
#3579955
09/17/12 09:23 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 27,091
Nogalus Prairie
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 27,091 |
I'm not a bow hunter...BUT, at 80 yards (240 feet), assuming a fps of around 350 on a bow, that is almost 7/10 of a second, versus half that for a 40 yard shot. That is not accounting for the fact that the arrow will have slowed down considerably at 80 yards, so you are likely looking at a full second. An animal can move a lot in that time. Don't think I'd ever take a shot like that. Targets will stand still for ever, this comment is right on the money... Have made the same point many times on here about long range rifle shooting. I'm in this camp. I am a 30 yr+ bowhunter.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
|
|
|
Moderated by bigbob_ftw, CCBIRDDOGMAN, Chickenman, Derek, DeRico, Duck_Hunter, hetman, jeh7mmmag, JustWingem, kmon11, kry226, kwrhuntinglab, Payne, pertnear, rifleman, sig226fan (Rguns.com), Superduty, TreeBass, txcornhusker
|