Oh nice, typo mistakes now. Yes, at least you are not self righteous. See I told you the meter would not move one bit.

BTW I still do not like the Remington Corelokt Cartridge. You see the Corlockt bullet loaded into the brass with powder and primer is called a cartridge. Feel free to call Webster's and have it corrected.

Be a man and admitt it. No big deal. Glad I could help you out as well. LOL.

You talking to me or ???

No BOBO. JJH.

Okie dokie

Can we all be friends now

I am just glad the OP got his question answered a week before this topic went crazy.

It is interesting the twists and turns a simple question of "Accubond or ballistic tip?" brings out. Nothing in the OP sbout Hornady, Corelocks, Barnes....

Don't get me wrond I enjoy the banter it gets both interesting, frustrating and ocasionally informative. Much like sitting around camp or the coffee shop discussions go about what is best for ____________ (fill in the blank with whatever). Like around a camp hopefully all agree or agree to disagree in a peaceful manner

Red Chevy, for the last time I admitted that the SST is not a "Ballistic Tip" brand. My point was... it is like a ballistic tip as it was copied from it.
Commoners such as myself use the term to describe the plastic tip design. There was no need to get High and Mighty in the correction portion. Shockingly I took offense....crazy.
The way I used Cartridge was correct (according to the dictionary) yet I was corrected by JJH.
You also corrected me on my use of the word "furniture", so unless you are also an expert on slang there was no need for another correction there, but you were trying to be a smart alec for your boys.
I made 1 mistake not several and I am still entitled to an opinion between Corelokt and Hornady as I have field tested both.

Yep, Friends BOBO. Done.

Don't you even want to know how well my Hornady GameKing cartridges shot?

I dont know the definition and allm, but I still wouldnt call a 270 win loaded with a 130 grain rem corelockt a corelockt cartrige, I would call it a 270 winchester cartrige... loaded with a corelockt bullet.

I'm gonna kick this dead horse a little more, just to make sure nobody gets false info.

Hornady makes several different bullets with polymer tips and only one or two could/should be compared to the Nosler Ballistic Tip - the Hornady V-Max and the Z-Max. Varmint bullets. The SST is not a varmint bullet - it is an Interlock with a polymer tip intended for medium to large game depending on caliber. Hornady also makes the Interbond and GMX with polymer tips. The Interbond is a bonded bullet similar to Nosler's Accubond and the GMX is a gilding metal bullet similar to a Barnes TTSX. The Interbond and GMX are also intended for medium to large game depending on caliber.

All of this info (and more) can (and should) be found in the Nosler and Hornady load manuals.

What about the Nosler Ballistic Hunting bullets, not the varmit ones. They are a good long range bullet for hunting. They also work for closer ranges.

Ah - there is that. So the Nosler Ballistic Tip Hunting bullets probably could be compared to the Hornady SST, although the Nosler doesn't have an interlock ring like the Hornady does. Still - probably similar applications.

I never understood why Nosler didn't name the Ballistic Tip varmint bullets and the Ballistic Tip hunting bullets something more different to distinguish between them. Maybe there isn't much of a difference other than size. It is confusing.

I was a happy user of the Nosler Solid Base Boattail until they switched over to the Ballistic Tip. I had heard that the new bullets were very accurate, so I went with the new Ballistic Tip. I believe that when they substituted the plastic tip for the lead tip, they quickly found that the new bullet opened up much faster than the old Solid Base had. The plastic tip pushes back into the cavity upon impact, which in effect makes it a hollow point bullet. The old Solid Base hadn't acted like that. At that time, I believe that there was just a 'Ballistic Tip' bullet, with no separate designations for use on different types and sizes of critters and with no structural differences. At some later time, Nosler made the jacket of the 'big game' Ballistic Tip heavier to reduce the expansion somewhat. At this time, except for the 90 grain .244 bullet, all big game Ballistic Tips in all calibers weigh 100 grains or more and all varmint Ballistic Tips weigh less than 100 grains. And I do think the boxes are now marked as to intended use.

As for my history with the bullet, I've used it since they brought it out - in the original construction and in today's heavier construction. They do open up fast, but I'm a lung shooter, so that works for me. I've also used that bullet (in the original version) on a hog of over 400 pounds and it penetrated that thick cartilage layer but didn't exit the hog. Killed him dead in his tracks. The only restriction that I would suggest with that bullet is that you don't make frontal quartering shots where you might hit a big bone. It'll probably still kill the deer, but you may not get an exit and a good blood trail. They don't all fall straight down, but they don't usually go very far. A rear quartering shot would be fine.

I've read where a few folks suggest that you don't use the BT at velocities over 2700 fps or so. I have not had any problem with use of the bullet at 3000 fps, and of the hundreds of deer I've shot with the bullet (original and new and improved), I cannot remember losing a deer that I can blame on bullet failure. I can blame losing deer on: Sun in my eyes; dust in my eyes; deer that duck at the last moment; and a few other choice excuses, including just flat out missing.

Yup the new packaging does indicate usage, or at least the last I looked at does.

I still have a small supply of the 60gr Solid base 22cal bullets and that is still one of my favorite bullets in the 22-250 for deer. I have recovered them that were .45 in diameter and still weighted 40 grains. Not bad, but not as good as the Partitions they are selling today for deer.

Like 603Country, I am a big fan of the obsolete Nosler Solid Base. I hoarded enough of them when they were discontinued to last me the rest of my hunting life. I shoot lots of Solid Bases, quite a few Ballistic Tips, a fair number of Accubonds, and tons of Partitions. I shoot more Nosler bullets than all the other manufacturers combined.

I believe that the Ballistic Tip, in its hunting configuration, is excellent on game up to, say, mule deer and caribou. I have even taken an auodad and rocky mountain bighorn with the 140 gr 7mm BT. When I go after game larger than caribou, I tend to bypass the Accubond and go straight to the Partition. Partitions always expand and they always penetrate, which is a reassuring quality when the game can bite back.

Nothing wrong with the Accubond, mind you. But it's sorta like the 16 gauge shotgun....it carries like a 12 and hits like a 20.

kmon1, I might have a few of the old 60 grain Solid Base bullets left. I hate to throw stuff away. You can have them if you want them, though I don't know where Rowlett is. Let me check my reloading boxes to be sure I still have a few of them. I'm pretty sure I also still have some 130 gr Solid Base bullets for my 270. I'll give those away too if somebody wants them, though I'll have to check to see how many I have. Not much point in giving away just a couple of em. PM me if there's interest.

That 60 grainer really was (is) a fine bullet and I had started loading it in my 220 Swift for hogs, when they quit making it. I never saw that coming, so I never got to stock up. I still shoot the 55 gr BT in the 220, but just might give the 65 grain Sierra Gamekings a try one of these days. That twist, in my rifle, will stabilize the 63 gr Sierra flatbase, so I think it should also stabilize the 65 grain boattail. Probably...maybe....hopefully.

Another Solid Base mourner, here. Still got a few 100gr that my 243 loves, and still have a few 130's that a 270 favors. Really miss the 120gr 257's and the 120gr 6.5s!!

I wrote a letter to Nosler shortly after the Ballistic Tips came out, expressing my concern. They assured me, in their best corporate double-speak, that they had no intention of discontinuing the Solid Base line. Still mad at 'em!!

15 pages....

Only in Texas.....thank god I live here. Threads like this make me proud.

You may try the Hornady A Max...I've found they are one of the
most accurate and should do everything your doing w/lung shots..
I get same hole groups w/both my 308's w/them as does my buddy
at the gun club..and they are 100 in a box..not 50..Don

Funny thing with Amax's is they same target only on ammo yet in the Hornady load manual they are list as acceptable up to medium game.

...and on the Hornady website, they say they are target bullets and are not recommended for hunting...

Has anyone else noticed how Nosler is now marking the Ballistic Tip as either hunting or Varmit. The hunting ones now have a heavier jacket than their older counterparts. Looks alot like the jacket from the Accubond line.

New Ballistic Tip


Accubond


Ballistic Tip Varmit


Pics from http://www.nosler.com/

The above post also make me think of changes to other bullets over time and manufacturing processes.

Remember the old Nosler Partitiions that were made on the screw lathe had a relief groove at the partition to reduce pressures.

The Barnes X bullet line started with the X Bullet, then in imrovements the XLC X bullet that had the blue coating to reduce fouling and pressure, then the TSX bullets to reduce pressures and now TTSX to be more aerodynamic and promote better expansion mostly through there being a lot larger hollowpoint under that tip.

yep. lots of good bullets out there these days