either that or the difference between someone who knows of which he speaks and someone who does not

Sigh....it still says 100 Cartridges. Along with .50 SLPT or whatever as of 2006 anyway. It does or did not say 100 brass cases filled with powder loaded with a .50 Cal SLPT bullet manufactured by whoever. So as I said. Semantics.

I can read hero!

If all you said was "AR", I would have a general idea about the type of weapon that you have. If we were on a guns/hunting forum, and you were touting that your AR was somehow better than someone else's, I would need more data to understand your position. If you used incorrect nomenclature to describe your AR, I would have some idea as to how well-informed you were.

You do get the point then. This is not a contest. That was my point. I did not committ a sin which will expedite me straight to TFF hel l for my use of the term Ballistic Tip. You do not have to be a ballistic geek to have an opinion on a round. Have a good night.

I thought this was the THF

What point? You came to a "ballistic geek" webite and used technically incorrect language. You were corrected on it and got your panties in a wad.

If you want to talk about Hornady Ballistic Tips to your coffee shop buddies, it's probably not gonna be an issue.

But if you go to a forum of folks who have a passion for a particular avocation, you will need to be informed enough to not make ignorant comments, or you will have to expect to be corrected.

I'm already having a good night!

LOL, My My. I never claimed to be an expert. I never stated I know more about bullets than anyone in the world. I never said "I am an expert and can testify in court on the subject".

I gave my OPINION between Hornady and Corelokt. I said I did not like the Corlokt Cartridge. Someone tried to correct me on that as well. Websters defines Cartridge as, A case (often metal) containing a complete charge for a firearm. A complete charge would also need a bullet so yes I am correct on that. Once fired it would be a spent cartridge or spent case.

When I said Hornady "Ballistic Tip" everyone knew I was speaking about the SST. Why? Because Hornady designed the SST to be excactly like the Ballistic Tip with just enough variation as to not get sued. Everyone knew what I was talking about yet as "Experts" you lost your collective minds and started acting like kids on a play ground in an unwelcome attempt to belittle me as I could not possibly have a coherent thought because I made a slight deviation in the nomenclature as "coffee shop guys will do". I fail to see how that was an arrogant comment but your response was extremely arrogant!

Please regail me with all the bullets you have designed since you are basicaly claiming you are an expert. How many patents do you have? Can you testify in court as an"expert witness" on bullets? No? Oh, so you are just like me then...........

Oh good one! Yeah, you really showed me. LOL, yes yes sorry I am also a member of the Texas Fishing Forum or TFF. Yes that typo is proof of your intellectual superiority. Try a yahoo search for Civil War gattlin gun cartridge. Guess they are wrong too because they have them listed.....as a cartridge! Then you can contact them and tell them the military did not have cartridges during the civil war and that you know this because you are an expert.

Care again to tell me there was no cartridge in the Civil War?

Have a cup of coffee. You'll feel better.

Your reference to anything having a plastic tip being a Ballistic Tip is like saying every soft lead tip bullet is a Lebel. You're generalizing it too much yes they are similar in they gave a plastic tip but are different in other areas meaning they aren't the same same goes for saying the Accubond, Interbond or Scirroco's are the same as well since they all have a polymer tip as well.

Yes, Honrady makes the SST. Anyone who refers to the plastic tip bullet design as anything other than the exact nomenclature per each manufacturer (reguardless if the manufacturer was listed) should be ridiculed.

Good thing no 2 manufacturers have the boat tail design, otherwise we would never be able to tell what someone is talking about. LOL.

I am one of you guys now. Corlokt is the best bullet ever and performs just as good as the Hornady SST.

Id ask if it was a recliner or not

But seriously sst and bt and accubonds and interbonds and sirrocos and ttsxs and hornady gmx's and nosler e-tips all have little "balistic plastic tips" on them, yet none of them are they same... but I guess they are all fired from guns to shoot stuff so we should call them all balistic tips right?

Quit being a jackleg, if your not going to contribute then leave.

NOSLER bt's/ct and similar family better know as cup and core
Hornady sst, vmax, varmint, amax, spire point
Serria GK, blitz king, pro hunter, mk, varminter
Berger vld, fb, bt


Crimped cup and core bullets
Remmy corelokt, hornady interlock

Chemically Bonded bullet family
swift Scirocco II
Nosler ab
Hornady interbond
Corelokt ultra bonded

3 Section bullets
Nosler Partition
Swift A frame


Monolithic bullets
Barnes
Nosler et
Hornady gmx

My experience and IMO
Stay away from the cup and core & crimped in any thing under .27 cal, over a mv of 3300+, or unless it ultra long range (500+yards).

I feel the monolithic type bullets are a game changer in hot smaller calibers, 22-250,243,6mm, .224 ttha, 220swift, 25-06, 257wby. I think they have raised there big game effectiveness up tremendously. You push a cup/core bullet ultra fast you rolling the dice wether the bullet construction will not be compromised at impact.

Over .27 I don't think it really matters.

My 2cent for what its worth

Red Chevy,

Wow, you mean some bullets are different? Oh my, I am learning so much. Huh, so when Hornady created their SST they did not copy the design from Ballistic Tip and make some variations as not to get sued? I had no idea the SST is not a Ballistic Tip design? Where did they get the idea?

Some of us refer to AR add on's as furniture.....at least at the coffee shop. Not being an "expert" like yourself I appreciate yet another correction, and I will let the boys know you do not approve and do so in a condesending manner like you did. How do I get myself dressed in the morning?

My OPINION before everyone put on their self proclaimed expert hats was.....Corlokts are not good. Yes they will kill a deer, at least eventually for me, then again so will a rock. I like (Opinion) Hornady SST, you know the one with the Ballistic Tip design that they copied from Ballistic Tip and everyone somehow knew what I was talking about before they felt compelled to show me up. I like them because in my OPINION they perform better when deer hunting for me.

Now you guys can go back to stroking each others ballistic ego's and wait for another guy to come in and use a term you do not like and then get 'em.

Yeah, I am the Jackleg. The Jackleg meter in here is pegged and when I leave the needle will not move.

TF

panties still in a wad, huh? Well, I'd love to try to help. But I'm headed to the range to try out my new Remington M70, 300 Winchester SAUM. I've loaded up some Honrady GameKings to try.

Misinformation helps nobody..... If you gave someone the Hornady BT advice that knew no difference and that person headed to the store to by Hornady ammo what's to stop them from buying a vmax and ruining their hunting experience?

Oh and i agree Core-Lokt bullets aren't great although they manage to take a good amount of game each year. The question would be how many are admittedly lost due to them.

Hey JJH are you riding in your new F150 silverado with the Hemi? Man that truck is awsome!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, keep stroking each other until there is no one willing to comment in here due to the "experts" like Red Chevy and JJH. Yuck Yuck Ford with a Hemi. Oh the humanity for refering to the SST as a Ballistic Tip even though it is a copied Ballistic Tip design. It is not like I was giving my opinion on Ballistic coefficients. Just an OPINION between Corlokt and Hornady in which EVERYONE knew exactly what I was saying.

I could be a qualified expert on a weapon system but if I called the forward assist, the assist button I suddenly become a mouth breather who is not entitled to an opinion about the weapon. Pathetic. Enjoy your little circle.......

They might be raggin on you a bit, but you did bring it on yourself. This is one of those times that you need to take the wise path and quit while you're behind.

The problem is not everyone knows the SST is the counterpart of the Nosler Ballistic Tip and half of Hornadys darn bullets come with a polymer tip not just the SST. It has no bearing whether it was copied or not they simply aren't the same thing, It's like calling a Springfield 1903 a Mauser 98 sure they are really close a Mauser sued Springfield over the similarity but they aren't the same.

made one change, have you seen gs custom bullets,http://gscustom.co.za/ If you like barnes these will flat blow you away. they solved all the problems about cupro bullets exect the terrible fouling at high velocities

And you continue to be misinformed regarding the Ballistic Tip and the SST. The Ballistic Tip is the old Nosler Solid Base design with the tip added. the SST is the Hornady (not Honrdy) Interlock design with the tip added. they are completely different designs.

You made a couple of statements that were incorrect. You were corrected. No big deal. Admit it like a man, quit whining and move on.

Ya I forgot the sst had a crimp.

No I havent checked out ga yet, thanks for the heads up.

Pretty much moved exclusively to the ttsx, have some vlds I use when playing long range

So you asume the everyone knows when you say hornady balistic tip they know you mean an sst... yet you feel the need to spell out DRT?????