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Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 01:54 AM
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leftlane
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I am wondering if anyone has one or tried one? I am looking at a 270. I know the book said it comes in" 06 270 an some others. But only seen the 06 an 270. The price is nice. Hell Wal-Mart has one for 350.00
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 03:42 AM
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I handled one the other day at local gun shop they seem to have some good reviews but man that thing just feels cheap to me.... but i heard they were good shooters. If you could change out the stock it might be a little better
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 06:36 AM
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I beleive the proper model is Ruger Uhmureekun not Ameracin
I have handled them and found them to be an unlovable piece of tubbaware...not to bust your balls if your heart is set on buying one, but there are so many other guns that can be had for close to the same price with much more soul and quality...this being said from a Ruger fan
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 12:58 PM
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txtrophy85
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I beleive the proper model is Ruger Uhmureekun not Ameracin
I have handled them and found them to be an unlovable piece of tubbaware...not to bust your balls if your heart is set on buying one, but there are so many other guns that can be had for close to the same price with much more soul and quality...this being said from a Ruger fan agree. can't believe ruger would produce something like that. whether it shoots good or not is beside the point.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 01:30 PM
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Just a different point of view, FWIW: I've had a few M77's over the years and could never like them. They are rugged and shoot ok, but I've always been a M70 guy, and a blued steel, walnut kinda guy.
But I do respect Ruger's ability to read the market and, utilizing advanced manufacturing techniques, produce a gun that meets the market requirements (single action pistols, M77, #1, etc. are good examples). That's what I think the American Rifle is. In today's economy, there is apparently a demand for "entry level rifles".
The American Rifle meets that demand. I personnally wanted a gun that I could throw in the truck or UTV and not worry about scratching it up. Bought a RAR in 243. I've messed with a lot of rifles over the last 50+ years, but never had one shoot so well right out of the box.
If you want purty, it ain't your rifle. But if you want function and accuracy at a value price, you oughta consider it. YMMV
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 03:08 PM
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That's crap, it shouldn't be called the "American Rifle" the American rifle should be chose by Americans. And right now I'm thinking it's either the Winchester model 94 or the Remington 700. Some whack@$$ ruger "American rifle" is stupid. The m77, 700, and 1500 are all really good bolt actions.
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 03:21 PM
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well. you seem like a fine fellow. welcome to the forum. Couple of questions: 1) what's crap? 2)are you proposing a law which would restrict what an American manufacturer can call it's prodcts? 3) what are your criteria for a "really good bolt sction"? BTW, the Howa 1500 is made in Japan...
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 04:29 PM
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I know the howa is made in Japan, I was saying that it was good rifle to have. And I don't think anyone should go and say that it's the American rifle, because it's not, it's a ruger rifle that hardly anyone owns compared to the other two rifles I mentioned. And I garuntee that the two rifles above are much better and have taken more game than the so called American rifle. I think the name american rifle should be a honor position instead of some brand new rifle that could be crap or could be great but isn't proven yet. It should be called the American rifle when Americans give it such a name. And isn't Sturm Ruger German? My criteria for a really good bolt action is
Reliable Accurate Durrable Proven
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 04:52 PM
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And isn't Sturm Ruger German? Publically traded US company on the NYSE. I agree the name is cheesey and the little star logo they created is amateur night marketing. I wonder if the market really demands cheap bolt guns or if Ruger created this gun to keep up with the 770 Jones'es. No matter how good these shoot I dont see a collectors market for these guns in 50 years.
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 05:01 PM
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Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc. is located in the United States. You think it's German??? It was founded in 1949 by Bill Ruger. All facilities are located in the USA. It is a publically traded company on the New York Stock Exchange (symbol RGR.
And of course hardly anyone owns one compared to the other rifles you mentioned: IT'S BRAND NEW!! IT'S ONLY BEEN ON THE MARKET A FEW MONTHS!! So,yes, it has not taken as much game either (duh)
As to your criteria, the one I have is the most accurate out of the box rifle I have ever bought, and that includes a lot of M700's, M70's, M77's M94's, M99's, Vanguards, and others.
Now since it's newly on the market, some time will be required for it to be "proven" (whatever that means).
But since it's a Ruger, there's no question, in my mind, that it will prove to be reliable and durrable (sic).
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 05:15 PM
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Give me a Walmart Remington 700 way before the Ruger American. I've played with the Ruger and will pass.
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 05:29 PM
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Hahahaha, sorry but I got you bud! (JJH) see, I'm not the only one! And you didn't mention the 700 in your post? Besides Sturm Ruger doesn't sound German at all to you? And the "German rifle" might be shooting better because you got better maybe? Think about it, the more you shoot the better you are. And if the gun was all that people would be talking all about that instead of the tikkas, or even mossbergs  for that matter. I have nothing against ruger it's just not their place to name the "American Rifle" and that's why I won't buy the gun.
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 05:46 PM
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Sturm and Ruger are the names of the two men who founded the company. By your logic Remington and Winchester must be British companies, right? If you don't like the rifle, fine. It's just your logic...or actually the lack thereof... 
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 05:50 PM
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 05:51 PM
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 05:57 PM
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 06:01 PM
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Can you, please, fix the misspelling of "American" in your post.
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Re: Ruger American
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08/20/12 06:04 PM
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Can you, please, fix the misspelling of "American" in your post. Agree with ya Chad. 
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 06:05 PM
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I hope you're not old enough to vote...
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Re: Ruger American
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08/20/12 06:07 PM
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lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: Ruger American
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08/20/12 06:20 PM
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Hahahaha, sorry but I got you bud! (JJH) see, I'm not the only one! And you didn't mention the 700 in your post? Besides Sturm Ruger doesn't sound German at all to you? And the "German rifle" might be shooting better because you got better maybe? Think about it, the more you shoot the better you are. And if the gun was all that people would be talking all about that instead of the tikkas, or even mossbergs  for that matter. I have nothing against ruger it's just not their place to name the "American Rifle" and that's why I won't buy the gun. I'm certain you not buying their rifles will not affect their bottom line
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Ruger Ameracin
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08/20/12 06:25 PM
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I hope you're not old enough to vote... Not cool man, I'm patriotic, cough cough dang German cough And tx trophy, I don't care if it hurts them at all, I'm not trying to shutdown a gun company who makes some fine rimfires. I'm just not going to buy some rifle just because it says American no matter how patriotic I am. Everybody has a certain place in society, when they try to overstep it some people can get upset, like in this situation me, and it's never good. If you want to do something big earn the right t do it, and I don't thnk ruger earned at all.
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Re: Ruger American
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08/20/12 06:27 PM
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The disturbing trend I'm seeing is instead of people buying one or two quality rifles that will last a lifetime and cost a bit more, they are filling up gun safes with crap rifles like 770's, 710's and the like.
I've seen nothing but headaches from these guns
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Ruger American
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08/20/12 06:29 PM
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Now tell me how the "German rifle" would last a lifetime after a few months of testing? Vs the 700 lasting a lifetime.
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Re: Ruger American
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08/20/12 08:04 PM
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Let's get one thing straight.
If it weren't for German engineers bolt actions as we know them today would not exist. The Mauser 98 set the standard for reliability.
Way more rifles were built on Mauser actions than the 700's push feed design.
And compared to a modern Mauser rifle or a blazer, Remington or any other American production rifle is a piece of crap. This includes weatherbys.
In any case, while the 700 is a great gun, the model 70 would be in line before the remington for the title of "America's rifle"
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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