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Remington R-15
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02/11/08 11:40 PM
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Anybody know the release date for the R15? I am really getting anxious.
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: Captain]
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02/12/08 12:56 AM
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huntinfishinsumb
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not real positive but i think their out i thought i seen in the pictures post a guy posted some pics of his varmint hunt with one he bought they are sweet wish i had the money for one maybe u can get me one too, cost of the answer to your question 
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: huntinfishinsumb]
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02/12/08 01:16 AM
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I have 4 on order, 3 for customers already in line, one for me...
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Re: Remington R-15
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02/12/08 03:41 PM
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Beer of the world beware. I'll kill an 18 pack just to watch it die.
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: Beer_Slayer]
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02/12/08 04:10 PM
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$975 is what we have them sold for... I know that's awful close to MSRP but the wholesalers are telling us they are going to be higher than that...
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: sig226fan (Rguns.com)]
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02/15/08 03:28 AM
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RKHarm24
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Vernon.. You have any Sig 226's in 9mm or 40cal; w/night sights poss;.....Even a Sig CPO would work. Randy from Grayson County Sorry, Didn't mean to Hi-Jack this topic 
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: RKHarm24]
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02/16/08 11:03 PM
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I was at Gander Mt. in Amarillo today and they had the R-15 in stock for $1199. They are cool guns!
What happens at deer camp stay's at deer camp!
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: lil_red_ryder]
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02/17/08 12:34 AM
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Dang, maybe I need to go up! My Remington rep told me at least four more weeks before they would deliver any...lying sucker...Gander Mountain in Amarillo has one, for $1100...
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: sig226fan (Rguns.com)]
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02/17/08 01:35 AM
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LeeC
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Vern,
2 questions:
How do you think they compare to say a RRA AR-15?
What seems to be the caliber guys are wanting, 204 or 223?
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: LeeC]
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02/17/08 03:39 AM
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Well most have asked about the 223, with a couple asking about 204. Right now, I am questioning my sources, but they say only 223's in the pipe early on. I got an email back from our salesman (TONIGHT even) from our best supplier/largest Remington wholesaler in the country, and he said Friday they told him the same thing, 4 weeks minimum, still maybe first of MAY! At the SHOT Show a couple of weeks ago Remington people said first of March Now there's one in Amarillo. I don't know who to believe. Hopefully they are coming sooner than the reps are telling.
RRA has some great triggers. But their other parts including barrels are equivalent to Bushmaster/Colt/Smith&Wesson from what I have seen. And their lead time is long right now too.
I really like Bushmaster's for the money. There's always someone that likes this better or that better, and there's one guy here that loves to tell me when I am wrong, but for the money, Bushmaster. Colt's are fine, but not 3-400 better. RRA's are a little higher than Bushy's, and have a better factory trigger, but I don't know that they are worth the wait and worth the little difference in my honest opinion.
I actually have not fired an R-15 yet. Got to handle them, but not fired them. They look good. Same machining marks inside the receivers, nothing extraordinary about them other than the finish.
We can get decent accuracy out of the Bushmaster's. Maybe, just maybe, a hair better due to the trigger with the RRA's that we have had. Colt's and Smiths and Bushy's are about the same.
I am not a fan of other brands, just due to experiences I have had with them here. There may be other brands that are fine, just not for our situation.
We've got optics ready Bushmaster M-4 profile guns for $790 new right now, M-4 Bushmaster clones for $875, and entry level R-15's are going to be $975 at best. Comparable Bushmaster's are about the same for the Varminter and PRedator models.
Opinions are just that, and worth what they cost! :-)
Be glad to help if I can.
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: sig226fan (Rguns.com)]
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02/17/08 03:31 PM
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I saw one at the academy in Victoria for $949 yesterday.
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: Payne]
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02/17/08 03:56 PM
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WildEd
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Quote:
I saw one at the academy in Victoria for $949 yesterday.
What barrel length and stock? What Caliber?
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: WildEd]
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02/17/08 06:43 PM
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Quote:
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I saw one at the academy in Victoria for $949 yesterday.
What barrel length and stock? What Caliber?
223. Don't know the rest, didn't handle it just read the tag.
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: Payne]
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02/17/08 06:51 PM
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WildEd
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Thanks, the guys at the Academy here in Round Rock said they were just going to carry Bushmaster that Academy would not have the new Remington R-15??? 
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: WildEd]
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02/18/08 02:34 PM
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WildEd
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I called Academy in Victoria to find out what caliber and barrel length they had in stock and was told they have the Bushmaster they do not and have not had a Remington R-15. 
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: WildEd]
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02/22/08 04:01 PM
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They are now carrying them at Gander Mountains. I picked one up from their College Station store. They only had the .223 in the 22" barrel. Going to shoot it this weekend and will post a report when I get back.
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Re: Remington R-15
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02/23/08 12:40 PM
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From what I've read on other forums the R-15 is being made for Rem by Bushmaster. They look identical in the pictures that I've seen other than the camo finish. Since I shoot left handed I'm thinking of buying one of the new Super Varmiters made by Stag since they make it in a true left hand version. I just need to make sure I have my lease money put back first  MC
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: MikeC]
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02/26/08 12:54 AM
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Quote:
From what I've read on other forums the R-15 is being made for Rem by Bushmaster. They look identical in the pictures that I've seen other than the camo finish. Since I shoot left handed I'm thinking of buying one of the new Super Varmiters made by Stag since they make it in a true left hand version. I just need to make sure I have my lease money put back first 
MC
What Mike said. Why wait for an AR15 with Remington stamped on it.
There are literally dozens of AR manufacturers,Gunsmiths,Armorers out there that will sell or assemble for you an AR that will Pick one or more of the following: put 10 shots into 1/4" inch after being used for a boat paddle
be the first thing thru some bad guys door
survive 15 months in the SandBox and still qualify you as Expert.
Why get all wet just because Remington is now selling Bushmasters??
Please spend some time at AR15.com before you give your money to Academy or Whoever. 
Covey16
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: Covey16]
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02/26/08 01:05 AM
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But they dont have the max1 camo which makes it alot better 
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: Brother in-law]
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02/26/08 01:14 AM
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I copied this from another website for your reading. They are not Bushmasters nor DPMS even though the same company that owns Remington owns each of those companies. Here is a quote from Byron South about the new Remington R-15. . Quote from Byron South:
"I know where you guys are coming from when you say it is a Bushy with a camo job. The float tube and gas block are almost the same but that is pretty much where the similarities end(other than the obvious basic AR design features and standard AR parts).
This comparison to the Bushmaster and other AR's for that matter is very expected and welcomed.
I will see if I can explain how the R-15 is different than the Bushmaster or any other AR currently available.
The float tube looks very similar to the ones Bushmaster puts on their Varminter and Predator rifles, but they aren't identical. First, they are shorter on the 18" gun (Mid-length). They are they same length on the 22" gun. If you will notice there is also less cooling vents on the front portion of the tube. This is to acomodate a space to mount a light rail. There are holes drilled and tapped here to mount the light in the position you desire.
The R-15 also differs from the Bushmaster(and all others)in the barrel configuration. the R-15 is available in 18" and 22" barrel lengths of a slimmer profile than the Bushies. To my knowledge no other AR manufacture including Bushmaster makes barrels configured to these dimensions. To me this is the biggest and most favorable feature on the R-15 vs any currently available AR on the market. Why? First off is the weight differance and secondly is the length. To many the 16's are TOOO loud but very handy. By adding 2 inches to the barrel it makes it significantly more comfortable to shoot but the slimmer barrel still mantains the feel of the larger contoured 16" guns. Remington also wanted a longer rifle but instead of just going with a 20 or 24 like Bushmaster and all the others they settled on a 22" and stayed with the slimmer barrel to keep the weight down.
Yet another differance is the single stage trigger. This trigger was desinged exclusively for the R-15. It is supposed to closely resemble a nice trigger on a bolt gun. I've yet to try one as I like the two stage triggers but I've heard from several people they are a nice trigger and adjusted to about 3.5 pounds from the factory.
The bolt carrier is also slightly different than the Bushies.
In a nut shell, this is a way different gun than the Bushmasters and is the first AR designed from the ground up to accomodate the predator hunter. I know this becasue I help design it. Like I said earlier, comparisons of this rifle with Bushies and others is expected and welcomed but believe me when I say these are not Bushmaster rifles with a Remington roll mark on them.
1. Different barrels (length and contour) button rifled. 2. Different float tube (drilled and tapped for light rail which is included) 3. Nice single stage trigger (Two Stage available on signature gun) 4. Different bolt carrier 5. Camo is standard. 6. Less expensive. 6. also available in .204
I'm not offended that the R-15 is compared to the Bushmaster at all, in fact I think of it as a compliment to the R-15. Remington doesn't hide the fact that Bushmaster was leaned on to an extent for the develoment and production of this rifle. I believe this was a very smart move. I'm not saying any of this in an attempt to distance the R-15 from Bushmaster but simply to say the R-15 is not a Bushmaster with a Remington name taped over it. If you will compare its features you will see it is a completetly different rifle." Byron South
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: WildEd]
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02/26/08 01:34 AM
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anybody know how much they weigh?
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: WildEd]
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02/26/08 02:13 AM
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Here is a link to all the stats. http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/Model_R-15_VTR.asp
Ok , It's a Cerebrus 15 and not a Bushmaster.  I personally build my own, they are easy to build. But when you start quoting features such as Triggers,barrels,ballance etc my mind starts thinking White Oak ,Accuracy Speaks,Compass Lake,Wylde, Noveske....... These are the people who created varmint quality assault rifles,not Cerebrus. Remington(and Smith and Wesson) is just jumping on the bandwagon now that AR15s are becoming mainstream all of a sudden. Thank you for being an [censored] Jim Zumbo. You did more to popularize the AR than Eugene Stoner. When I want Camo,I break out the Krylon  My point is a lot of us too a lot of crap for a lot of years for shooting AR15s(aside from the time spent in the military)and those that created the accurate AR15 are forgotten and Remington (Cerebrus) is the master AR manufacturer according to some gunwriters who hateds AR15s 2 years ago.
Again, spend some time at AR15.com before you buy.
Covey16 
Last edited by Covey16; 02/26/08 03:03 AM.
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Re: Remington R-15
[Re: Covey16]
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02/26/08 03:24 AM
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If they get them accepted by the general public I am all for it. I do not care what name they use. I can tell you a lot of people that would not try an AR will now do so just because it is a Remington. If you went to my grandfathers and fathers house most of the guns in the safe would be remingtons since 1930. People like that will not order a custom AR and would never pick one up, now they might. The more support we get for AR rifles the better for all of us. JMHO
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