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BEWARE OF THE BAD BOY BUGGY #302354 01/23/08 02:35 AM
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Buggies are nothing more than a 4 wheel drive golf cart with a battery life of about 4 hours in the field The buggies are blown way out of proportion by the sellers of this P.O.S. They will not climb hills like we see over here in Texas , The electric motors will not hold up to a simple creek crossing {old saying "Water and electricity dont mix"} its still true . The gas pedal in the floor cannot get wet if it does it will short out and leave you stranded or it might go when it dries out This is just a bad product all the way around I would hate to see a THF guy spend 9500.00 on a camo golf cart that will not do what they say it will How do I no you ask EX DEALER


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Blah blah blah.... Obviously you are venting. I know several people that own these and like them a lot. How about instead of making a bunch of general comments you state the problems you have, what the dealer said, and the final conculsion.


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I think he is saying..."he was / is an EX-DEALER." Clarification "Monkee"?


Re: BEWARE OF THE BAD BOY BUGGY [Re: bhtkevin] #302357 01/23/08 02:55 AM
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Pretty sure general venting is allowed and does not require anyone's approval. However, if someone is trying to be genuinely helpful to the other THF members, the more specifics the better. Hang in there monkee.

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Pretty sure general venting is allowed and does not require anyone's approval. However, if someone is trying to be genuinely helpful to the other THF members, the more specifics the better. Hang in there monkee.

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Re: BEWARE OF THE BAD BOY BUGGY [Re: TreeBass] #302359 01/23/08 03:18 AM
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Have a good friend that bought one of those expensive toys and could not use it during wet weather and are not meant for going in water over 12 inches deep...ie dont try to cross a creek..He got stranded a couple times before he learned his lesson..it was common to short out in wet weather situations..


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thanks for that info monkee, I had been considering looking into one of those.


Re: BEWARE OF THE BAD BOY BUGGY [Re: Monkee] #302361 01/23/08 01:57 PM
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I almost bought one last year.....too rich for my blood. Bought a jeep and it left me stranded too. Got the distributor wet and had to walk. Would break down as far away as you can possibly get from camp. Long walk with a case of gout. Very painful.



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Re: BEWARE OF THE BAD BOY BUGGY [Re: atascosa_red] #302362 01/23/08 02:15 PM
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spend 6k on a quality brand 4 wheeler or utv..u wont be disappointed




Re: BEWARE OF THE BAD BOY BUGGY [Re: atascosa_red] #302363 01/23/08 02:16 PM
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Have a good friend who bought one this year, had a couple things wrong with it, headlite wiring was bad, 4 wheel drive didn't work all time, steering was difficult when compared to mule, battery life was poor at best had to pull the bad boy back to camp a couple of time. Currently dealer has it back trying to fix problems.


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does anyone have something good to say about them or is it an $8500 pill of junk?



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Re: BEWARE OF THE BAD BOY BUGGY [Re: TEXASLEFTY] #302365 01/23/08 02:54 PM
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I drove one at a friends lease and we took it through everything and never had a lick of trouble with it. Maybe considering its pretty new to the ATV market there still trying to work all the bugs out of them, just like the new F250's!


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We've got one with nary an issue. Yes, it's a glorified golf cart but it's quiet, carries all of us around the ranch AND climbs an extremely steep hill up the back side of our place.

Battery life is also dependent on proper conditioning of the batteries for the first 10 uses or so. Failure to do that will permanently alter the batteries' performance. Also, water levels have to be maintained in those batteries.

Don't expect the Buggy to replace the ATV. Understand it for what it is. We were looking for something that was family-friendly, less dangerous and easier to operate than our current ATVs. The Buggy was that vehicle.


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I was looking at them for that very reason. Also, the fact that they are quiet....therfore, I could sneak up on them. I tried to get some imfo awhile back on this forum but, no one answered me. It is good to know some of ya'll have them even though some don't like them. Just like a car, there are good and bad....proper care and conditioning (as you said) would make a world of difference.



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We see more animals than we've ever seen since we got ours. You can drive up to a blind and the person inside has no idea you were coming. With the truck or ATV, you here 'em from a mile away.


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So if I get the jist of these posts, the buggy is a good deal if you use it mostly on flat ground with an occasional climb, are very careful about conditioning the batteries, don't get too far from camp, and do not use it in the water or rain. Seems like pretty limited use but if it fills your bill, no problemo.

One of my buddies has a Kawasaki Mule that's diesel powered. It's pretty darned quiet, goes a LONG time on a tank of fuel, and climbs well. On the downside, I think he paid about $12K for it. It may be better to spend $12K wisely than to waste $9K on something that doesn't work for you.



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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a tailpipe muffler for atv's out there? I've seen commercials a while back on the Outdoor channel, and I would think you could fit it to the side by sides also? Either way there are ways of making a UTV quiet. My grandfather owns a 4x4 mule and he bent his own exaust extension to be higher that standard. His intention was because of a water crossing, but it turned out that it made it much quieter too, you must be within reaching distance now to hear the motor running. That was really the only advantage I saw to purchasing a bad boy buggy other than the Nuge telling me to. The over all hauling capacity, towing, and the fact you won't get stranded due to fuel (carry and extra canister just in case) are huge offsets for buying a gas/deisel side by side over an electric.



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Dont forget about 600-700 bucks every 3 years for new batteries....I have a old ez-go and yes they are quiet, but it will get stuck in a cow pattie! The last 5 yrs I have replaced the batteries twice...Lil over 530 bucks the first time and the last time a few months ago is was about 100 bucks more...I gave it to my brotha n law for the kids...they love it and use it daily....JMHO


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bhtKEVIN If you would learn to read you would see what everybody else saw the magic words was EX-DEALER I am trying to warn others of this bogus NOT all terrain vehicle I can say 1 positive thing about the buggy it is quiet until you drive it in rough terrain then the rattling starts and there is no fix . I had a customer that had a buggy that lost its brakes on a very long downhill road.She lost control of the buggy and had to have it completely rebuilt from the ground up therefore I have had one of these P.O.S. appart and rebuilt from the ground up most of the parts are a copy from EZ-Go and are made in Japan. Approx battery life is 1.5- 2 years and the batteries from crown batteries are 216.00 each there are under the seat of the bad boy junkie best I can count thats 1728.00 every 2 years for batteries One of the guys above spoke about the water issue He is absolutely correct the 2007 year model buggies have a limit of about 8 to 9 inches of water before the pedal shorts out the 2008 year models have a limit of about 12 inches Not to mention the loss of power if not a complete loss of everything when crossing a creek or watery mud hole I went to Natches Mississippi to there dealer meeting and saw all of the smoke blowing there reps do. Saw the factory and all of the hundreds of buggies that are piled up around there yard because a customer had bought the product and it didnt do what it was advertised to do there for wanted his money back and I have been there and done that with all the other B.S. that I call excuses on why it doesnt perform the way it is advertised.Call it venting if you would like I call it a fair warning from one friend to another.


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Thanks for the warning....I guess I will stick to my jeep.



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Does anyone have any experience with this type UTV?

http://nolimit4x4.autorevo.com/webtemplate.aspx?iid=250148

I like the idea of 4 seats with a bed.


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Dang, that is badarse!!!



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I would like to see it with a couple of inches higher ground clearance. Their 2 seater for $10k looks like it has a little better clearance because it doesn't have that longer wheelbase. Looks pretty sweet, but having a manual shift it will make it harder to compete with many side by sides out there. Do they have an automatic?



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Check these guys out, its a 300cc side by side for $4600 brand spanking new. Its a BMX brand which makes the atvs and utvs but they use a Yamaha engine to them. This is their little side by side, and the only down fall is its 2wd. My buddy bought one of their 2wd atvs from them last year and absolutely loves it. Its not one of the big brands, but for the price, they can't be beat. He walked out for about $2800 total and even got the ramps, gun rack, and cover with it for that price. Not bad in my opinion.

http://www.bestpriceatvs.com/product.php?productid=16546&cat=248&page=1



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All these things come from the same region in China. I run an import company for a living and have been looking into the ATV/UTV thing. Just not sure yet about the whole warranty/parts/service aspect of it. Thinking about buying a couple just to check them out.


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