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Opinion on Predators - North America #3000049 02/09/12 04:39 PM
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Coyote, Cougar, Wolf, Bear, Bobcat etc

Thought it might be interesting to see responses on the future of major predators. Lets keep it civil if possible so it does not get locked.


Opinion on Predators?
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wolf & yote treated the same, bobcat&mt lion treated the same, bear left alone at its current state but classified as an exotic in areas they want to reintroduce them to.


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Maybe TPWD can do a drawn hunt for one bear per year. Might make some extra funds on the drawing.



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Need a 5th option... Let nature take it's course and quit trying to introduce species.



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Re: Opinion on Predators - North America [Re: 338ultra] #3003113 02/10/12 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: 338ultra
Need a 5th option... Let nature take it's course and quit trying to introduce species.


Yeah maybe so but the trend is interesting. Often in polls one always sees where something could be changed.



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Bc in most scenarios folks want a way to hunt them cheaper than current prices. If very few permits are handed out, they won't come cheap.


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There are more predators than most hunters and certainly most college boys the State employs realize. You'll never completely
get rid of them, nor should you. We have some real problems with
Hogs, (feral), and fire ants..neither were native and are out of
control....try getting the State to take care of them..DD


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I think Texas should do limited permits on mtn. lions like some of the other states. Problem animals, however, should be taken care of ASAP. I cannot speak for other states but I think bears should remain protected in TX for the forseeable future aside from maybe a money making auction. Wolves should not be protected or reintroduced. They do far to much damage.


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Originally Posted By: blancobuster
I think Texas should do limited permits on mtn. lions like some of the other states. Problem animals, however, should be taken care of ASAP. I cannot speak for other states but I think bears should remain protected in TX for the forseeable future aside from maybe a money making auction. Wolves should not be protected or reintroduced. They do far to much damage.


Why should Texas issue permits for mountain lions? Now they are a shoot on sight, no permit required.



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I think the State should put more Mt. Lions in Grayson county, is what I think!!



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Originally Posted By: timbertoes
I think the State should put more Mt. Lions in Grayson county, is what I think!!


Would twice as many be enough?



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What problems do coyotes and cats cause that they need to be managed?


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Fawn crops


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Originally Posted By: dogcatcher
Originally Posted By: blancobuster
I think Texas should do limited permits on mtn. lions like some of the other states. Problem animals, however, should be taken care of ASAP. I cannot speak for other states but I think bears should remain protected in TX for the forseeable future aside from maybe a money making auction. Wolves should not be protected or reintroduced. They do far to much damage.


Why should Texas issue permits for mountain lions? Now they are a shoot on sight, no permit required.


I was writing in defense of why I thought we should adopt a system similar to other states but realized that it would be virtually impossible to put a system in place in Texas that is in place in other states in the West for lions because Lions are not found throughout the state and it would be impossible to place bag limits by region for lions because their range is so varying. My intention in writing that earlier post was to say that I would like to make sure that we have a sustainable population in the state. I don't know that it is or is not right now but I know that genetic variation in several west Texas populations is not very good. I am not sure that the system is broken and it may well not be, but I would be very sad if there ever was a day when native lions no longer resided in west TX.


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I voted for the third one by the way, but I disagree with the new introductions part. I think that if we do our part there should be no need to introduce predators. Of the ones we have, the only ones threatened in the state are ocelot and jagaurundi(I think TPWD actually claims these to be extinct in the state but there are many who say they are in S. TX) not sure on black bear. I would put black bear on the "making a comeback" list rather going down hill


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MT lions probably have too much range to ever be completely gone from TX.... they don't cover the most territory of any animal in NA by being dumb.


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Originally Posted By: rifleman
MT lions probably have too much range to ever be completely gone from TX.... they don't cover the most territory of any animal in NA by being dumb.

I agree. Mt. Lions are not nearly as worried about crossing the Rio Grande as us haha! Just making the point the lower the numbers are the more difficult it is to have a self-sustaining population. I have no problem with hunting them as much as we possibly can, but I want my grand kids to have that chance as well. I want to hear other peoples opinions on it, especially anyone from west Texas with experience from them


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Eradicate them and put survivors in a zoo.


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How about an option that says to leave them alone? This whole "management" moniker is a farce. The only response someone could come up with was fawn crop. Oh boo hoo you might just have one or two less deer coming to your feeder right on schedule when it goes off.


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I wish there were more coyotes and cats...same as hogs...they are too much fun to hunt than to wish to erradicate them completely!


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I love to hunt yotes an cats but you really don't find many at all anymore!


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Originally Posted By: devildog28
How about an option that says to leave them alone? This whole "management" moniker is a farce. The only response someone could come up with was fawn crop. Oh boo hoo you might just have one or two less deer coming to your feeder right on schedule when it goes off.


Calf crop, every once in a while you find one half eaten before it's had a chance to completely drop and it can take a bite out of the wallet. Takes an even bigger bite if it's a club calf.


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I didn't answer because I don't agree with any of the 4 choices posted.


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Originally Posted By: NDN98
I didn't answer because I don't agree with any of the 4 choices posted.


Sorry I had good intentions.

Still an interesting trend.



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