they aren't family and 2/3 have been put out to pasture.

I dont believe it, where is the certified pictures and the 3 independent witness testimony backed by polygraph tests.

Everyone knows you can't kill anything tougher or bigger than a cottontail in Tx using anything less than a Remchesterbrowtikkerby in .338 ultra super mega magnum, 250 gr bullet minimum and that bullet has to be at least a premium ssttsxbondedhypercorevld.

I think the .257s are perfect for Texas deer. The .257 Weatherby is too scarce and to f-ing expensive, the .257 bob isn't exactly plentifully available either; that points me towards the .25-06. Plenty of punch out to 400 or more (if you ever need to shoot that far, I doubt that many people do and even fewer have put in the time to be able to make first-hit clean kills at that range) and it can be loaded to ~3100 fps with a 117 grain pill (although factory loads are going to be in the 2950 range at that weight).

you left out the Habanero 30-378... I kind of want one so I can push a 30 cal over 4000

I've killed a couple with a .243. An 85 grain pill leaves a nice hole on both sides of the head or neck. I've killed more with a .25-06 and about as many with .223

You'll have a better bullet selection with .264" and plenty of capable calibers to choose from. 6.5x55, 6.5-284, 6.5-06, .260Rem, 6.5CM, 6.5x47L, 264WM etc.

This is some funny stuff!

Most rifles are way beyond the capability of the shooter.

They were hitting clay pigeons at 700yds earlier in the week, they just got their nerves worked up. The other guy shooting a STW was clutch at 697 on a 215" deer. He was so into the hunt he had get woke up to informhim the deer was out.

What I think is all this long range shooting crap is a bunch of hooey. I'd be willing to bet that 95% of all deer harvested in the state of TX are shot in ranges less than 100 yards. Anybody shooting over 200 yards needs some real range time to be accurate. With all that said I am going to go with the .22-250. Between my son and I we have killed 15 plus deer in 5 years with it.

All you super accurate sniper wannabees need to get real. Seriously 700 yards on a deer. Most hunters don't need to shoot at anything over 200. They are gonna miss if they do.

Agree 100% on everything you said sprigman!

How do you know that some of us aren't/weren't snipers.

Perhaps some of us have trained to shoot long distance. Some might even compete at long range. Shooting distance requires practice but it's not a skill that only certain few possess. It's not "The Force".

I've shot deer out to 400 yards. I've shot pigs and javelina even farther. With that said, you can't just plop down in the deer blind and do it on whim. It does require some preparation and practice.

My feeder is 202yds... try it... you see ALOT more deer believe it or not

Try being still and you don't have to put your feeder at 200 yards

Last time I checked the thread was about what is a good caliber for deer in open county west texas or deer in thick east texas. Somewhere along the way the snipers hijacked it. That's all I am saying.

I don't doubt you can shoot deer at 400 yards if you say you can. I can't...... strike that..... I won't..... I am not confident out that far and won't risk wounding a deer. 95% of hunters need to be told this instead of the delusional thinking that they can make shots out to 700 yards because someone on a forum said its possible.

22-250 is typically a varmint rifle, get a real deer rifle, practice, and you will be good well past 200 yards

I personally didnt put it at 202 the man who had it before me did... and i left it that way cause the deer where use to it... also i have feeders at 60yds... its not just being still that has to do with it, its odor, (scent killer is garbage by the way), comfort of the deer, and how it blends with its cover ... i hunt in a non high fence non expensive ranch... its just a convienent lease... not only that but i live in EAST texas... i know people who kill 17 deer a year all of them completly illegal... i do nothing illegal and kill one... so the deer we have around here are EXTREMLY skitish and noctornal due to DA poachers.

22-250 is a very capable deer caliber. Like I said a few pages back... this is being way over thought.

I agree that most shots are not taken at this distance... and 99% of the time.. not really needed ... but that said.. there are people out there that can.. in fact really not even being a big deal.. your right that its in the shooters confidence and really equipment... I shot a doe this year at 905 yards... one shot. dead. I'm just saying... for the right group of shooters.. its no biggie. but practice.. a lot of it.. equipment .. and more practice make the difference.

I added typically to point out the fact that it is also used for deer (by some), no need to highlight it red. It is capable but has limitations. Said limitations are considerable when discussing the "best deer rifle". Maybe you aren't thinking enough?

What does the height of the fence or value of the land have to do with deer behavior? Overhunting is overhunting

because the deer are perfectly managed without interference of outside leases and because you dont have the same pressure from hunting if the deer are in a well managed high fence ranch... I have freinds on a 1800 dollar high fence ranch... he shot a deer oppening weekend scored 167... he passed up 140's that morning... and his father passed up 135 to 145's all year ALLL year... on opening weekend i had a 4 pt and 4 does that i seen... you cant tell me that the height of that fence has nothing to do with it... Thats a HUGE difference..

This thinking is why i posted the .243 thread yesterday.

Isnt that you only see 5 deer is that there is over hunting? Also that the buck running with the does is only a 4pt? I hate hunting east texas personally because the deer are so skiddish.