I hear you on that. Since moving to Austin and hunting a year to year lease I use ladder stands for rifle and bow. You get to see a lot more going on around you sitting in a tree stand than in a box. I actually like it more because it keeps me more alert than leaning in the corner of a box blind and falling a sleep. Except for the huge wood pecker that is in the hole in the tree 2 feet above my head, and he comes out at daybreak and scares me every time.

So those people in the northern states that arnt allowed to use feeders are the ones that are true hunters?? you are talkin about the way they set up on funnels leading to a HUGE corn field...im sorry we dont have fresh cut corn fields around each corner..seems like the only difference is that they get to hunt a giant corn feeder... i left this thread alone for as long as i could... i cant see how there are this many people against the early bow season.... sounds like a bunch of OBAMA speakers in here wanting everything to be equal... its not even close to equal..plain and simple

This thread above sums up better than anything I have ever read on why I love bow hunting so much - and specifically the morning hunts. I love sitting in a tree in total darkness and watching (and hearing the sounds) of the morning coming to light. Not to mention it is a heck of alot easier tracking a deer in the daylight rather than darkness!

What makes it fair that all hunters pay the same price, but one group is allowed a month or more of additional time just because they choose one weapon over another????

I could care less how easy or hard it is to take the kill shot, hunting is about skill, either you have it or not. But I pay the same amount as the bow hunters do, yet they get an extra month before me on land that I assist in paying to manage...

Surely you are not serious? Did you read this thread at all? You pay the same amount as the bowhunters do and you are allotted the same opportunity. It's your choice not to take advantage of it.

If I CHOSE not to ever hunt with a rifle again would that make it unfair to me that other people get to use one?

This thread has given me the squirts. My toilet is ready to give up on bow, rifle and muzzle loader season.

You use a toilet? That's not fair! I have one but choose to go in the yard instead. You should have to go in the yard too, like me.

What makes it fair is that YOU have the same opportunity as everyone else in the state to buy the archery equipment, learn to use it, and hit the woods. If you choose not to, that is no one but you.

Blowslayer, you keep to that arguement and never back it up. Archery isn't for everyone, it's not something everyone can be proficient with, and its the QUICKEST way to leave wounded game running around.

Now combine that in a deer lease where EVERY member pays and EQUAL amount to hunt the land. Sorry, I could care less if you think "anyone can pick up a bow and go hunting" the season should be open to ANY weapon on NO weapon PERIOD.... ALL hunters get a fair chance or no hunters get the chance. Just my opinion.

It is unreasonable to expect rifle hunters to pay same prices without equal access, unethical to advocate allowing anyone to pick up a bow and launch arrows, and it is simply unfair for one group to an unequal access to game that belongs to NOONE.

ESPECIALLY on a lease where all members pay equally to access the land and game.

What do you mean "and never back it up"? Could you bowhunt if you wanted to? Are you being denied that right? If you are not "proficient" with a compound could you not shoot a crossbow? I won't get into the "quickest way to leave wounded game running around" because that has nothing to do with it being unfair. You keep saying you don't get the same chance but you do and you know it. You keep saying you don't have equal access but you do and you know that too. I don't hunt with a Muzzleloader but that does not mean that the season should not be longer. If I want to hunt the later Muzzleloader season I know what I can do in order to do that....buy a muzzleloader and go hunting. Or is that season unfair to the strictly rifle hunters too? All our members pay equally and 2 out of 11 bowhunt. Nobody cares because they know if they wanted to do it they could too. As cheap as bows are and crossbows as well it all comes down to one thing...it's your choice not to hunt in October.

I love the entitlement attitude that you take, it's great. If I don't want to hunt October then nobody should be allowed to. Sounds like our current Administration and why this country is going down the tubes more each day.

Hmmm, I need a new nickname for you since the real stickchunker showed up! lol Since your post is almost poetic how about the lyric-slayer?

What about the money factor? It gets expensive. Buy bow to get in bow season, a rifle for general and a muzzle loader for that season.

I don't think bow hunters shouldn't get to hunt Oct. Just that everyone should get to hunt the same dates regardless of weapon.

If you want to be challenged hunt with a bow. If you want to be a lazy box dweller then hunt with a rifle (I am in that group) and if you want to hunt like our foresfathers then hunt with a muzzle loader.

dear God, why did I come back into this topic?!?!?!

Any willdang off the streets can go out and shoot a deer with a high powered. Shoot 300yds easy, not much challenge in that. Besides rifle season is during the rut anyways. If you are a true trophy hunter then you own a bow and if you want meat then go kill a hog with your rifle anytime of the year.

I really don't think money has anything to do with your opinion about bowhunting but I knew someone would bring it up. I bought my son a cheap crossbow for $129.00 and he has killed 2 deer with it this season. Lets face it, if you can't afford $129 then you probably won't be hunting anyway.

How about this for the other part of your comment.... If you want to be challenged, hunt with a bow. If you don't want to be challenged, sit in the house and watch TV during October and then say it's not fair.

You don't have to, but I do!

I was thinking the same thing. All of this whining about it being unfair that other people are doing something I have the same opportunity to do but choose not to just reminds me of how we got our current president. These types of threads make me want to shove a pencil in my eye for reading them, but I just can't help myself.

Maybe I can put this topic to bed... If I get into the woods earlier than any other hunter, or even at the same time - it is then unfair to said hunter(s). I hate to toot my own horn but toot toot, I am that good... Chuck Norris doesnt even want any! Whether I have a bow, rifle, slingshot, atlatl, spear, cross bow, hell sometimes I will just kill them with ugly for the mere sport of it. I think that it is unfair to all other hunters that do not get a head start before me, perhaps there should be a season prior to me going out that offers a "fair" scenario for other hunters, after all these years am sad they are at such a disadvantage.

To be fair, some of us are so over gunned in that area there really isn't any sport in it.

Touché