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Who would video this? #286331 12/31/07 06:00 PM
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Don't approve of this kind of hunting, much less be proud enough to video. At least both were killed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q220qWHJE80&NR=1



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Re: Who would video this? [Re: RedRiver_Killer] #286332 12/31/07 06:10 PM
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jeebus h. christ.

although they both damn sure dropped.

i've heard of stuff like that, but never seen it till now. isnt there some type of law on this?


Re: Who would video this? [Re: RedRiver_Killer] #286333 12/31/07 06:11 PM
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Thats awesome!


Re: Who would video this? [Re: RedRiver_Killer] #286334 12/31/07 07:52 PM
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I would not have videoed it but I really don't see anything wrong with it.

I have seen the time and the situation where I would have tried the shot, and a few times I have had a doe and her that years fawn come into a feeder together, and I always shoot the doe first, because nearly everytime the fawn will just stand there long enought to shoot it.


Re: Who would video this? [Re: Crazyhorse] #286335 12/31/07 08:19 PM
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I don't see how you could ever justify it. To me JMO it's really no different than shooting a deer that's standing behind a cedar tree. You don't know what your bullet will do or the exact point of impact of the secondary target. It's merely a guess!! Therefore I see this as a very unethical way to hunt. Again JMO!!



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Re: Who would video this? [Re: RedRiver_Killer] #286336 12/31/07 09:14 PM
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It is very different than shooting a deer standing behind a tree. Most modern rifles with good ammunition will pass thru one deer with more than enough energy to kill a second and possibly a third animal.

If you will notice, I never said anything about justifying it, but it has happened in the past to folks and they just don't want to admit to it in public.

Declaring it unethical, is a stretch because ethics are individual in nature.

Legalities are another matter entirely.

Posting a video of such a feat is questionable at best.

With the rifles I normally shoot, and in an area where both deer would be legal, I would consider the shot real seriously.

Would I take the shot, I am just going to have to wait and see if I am ever faced with that situation.

Now, if that video was of someone killing 2 feral hogs with one shot would your opinion be the same, and if not, WHY not?????????


Re: Who would video this? [Re: Crazyhorse] #286337 12/31/07 09:32 PM
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I'm just saying past the first target you can't guarantee the accuracy of the pass through. It is no different than shooting through a small CEDAR tree where you can see the deer on the otherside. Cedar limbs, ribs and shoulder they're gonna be about the same, but most people wouldn't shoot through the Cedar, therefor that makes it a very poor decision. As far as hogs, they're even more dense than a deer, not a very wise choice. The only reason it wouldn't be questioned with hogs is you don't see many deer having 10 does to a litter 3 times a year. Then again I don't shoot hogs and let them lay.



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I've seen that happen on hogs many times! Depending on what I was shooting, I'd expect the same on deer. Not sure I'd try for it, but if I did it wouldn't take much to make it happen with my .45-70! I guess it depends on how confident I was that they would both die. It does go against my 'grain' so to speak as far as having the best shot.



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Re: Who would video this? [Re: RedRiver_Killer] #286339 12/31/07 10:14 PM
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Those deer were to close together to be shooting at in any case, and about the only way that was not going to happen was if the shooter had been using a 224 caliber and 50 grain bullets, and I would not guarantee it not happening then.

Those deer were a foot or less apart at the shot.

I really doubt that the shot was much over 50 yards if that far.

I see nothing indicating what type firearm was being used.

If the shooter was in a state requiring shotguns with slugs, there was no way he was going to keep from hitting both deer at the angle the shot was taken from.

And living tissue, including bone, is not the same as any kind of wood. Wood reacts a certain way when hit with a bullet. Flesh and bone don't always respond to an impact the way a person thinks it would.

Apart from all this opinionating there is the legalities involved, because there are now 2 dead deer on the ground, and the limit may have only been one.

Like some other things that have appeared on the internet and on this site as of late, the person doing the filming and the person doing the shooting may have had no idea or intention of killing both animals with a single shot.

The potential problem comes in, just like the thread about the guy taking the two feeders, the shooter may not be the one that posted the video, but the guy that posted it won't be the one in real trouble, except if they are accounted with being an accessory to the crime, if this happened in an area with a 1 deer limit.

We are all setting around and assuming this was done on purpose, when that may not be the case at all.


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i only saw two deer getting shot. I must of missed the cedar tree getting shot. Hope he had a tag for it(cedar tree)


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wow..........that is too cool. Its a good thing its on video or i wouldnt have believed it


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Unethical??...LMAO....some of you holier than thous need to loosen up that collar and enjoy life. If you spend your whole life judging others, you leave no time for yourself...but then again you do need a life to need time for yourself.....


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Unethical??...LMAO....some of you holier than thous need to loosen up that collar and enjoy life. If you spend your whole life judging others, you leave no time for yourself...but then again you do need a life to need time for yourself.....



I here that all the time from people that hunt under feeders about guys that hunt with dogs and vice versa.
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I have shot 2 deer with one shot and posted it on this forum and got blasted on! I think if you are a good enough shot and they are lined up just right why not. I took mine and they both dropped but mine were lined up different. I will say I would not have taken the shot that he did. I shot the first one through the neck and the one behind her was a heart and lung. Dropped both of them right there like those did. Now would I do it again no! I did it it’s a lifetime experience and allot of work cleaning the 2 deer by yourself but I will never forget it. now call me a bad hunter or any name you want but I know for a fact that I can outshoot most and I had the opportunity and took it guess what it worked! There was another post on here and someone said ok what about a hog and all of a sudden most of the comments were that it is ok to do now hog or deer its still a living animal regardless, I tried on deer and made it happen



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I agree with the questionable nature of the shot. They should have had at least three deer lined up and shot between their legs in order to make it really impressive. I could shoot doe like that on almost any given hunt. Shot three doe(3 different shots) in the same hunt last Friday and then a 10pt walked out. I was out of bullets so I just used a grenade on him:) Guess I should have taped it.

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A very bad decision with this type of shot! Too many unknowns with bullet placement after the first animal. I had a guest down at our ranch 2 weekends ago that shot a doe with a 150 gr .270 at about 75 yards. The bullet fragmented inside the doe and two pieces came out the ribs in two separate directions. One came out at about 45 degrees while the smaller piece came out about 25 degrees opposite the first fragment. I just don't understand why you would take the shot???? Just trying to be macho for your friends and the camera?? Why not wait until another deer comes along for the second harvest.

Maybe I was brought up a litter different, my Grandfather told me many, many years ago that any animal (deer, hogs, squirrels, etc) that I am going to shot deserves a quick, humane harvest. Shooting two deer with one shot is way to risky.....


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Some of you folks are assuming the shot was done on purpose, when it may have just been a case of poor shot judgement.

If it was done on purpose, it had its desired effect.

As far as videoing the incident and placing it on YouTube or any other place, was not a good decision in my opinion.


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