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Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: majekman] #2857488 12/21/11 04:33 AM
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Dimmitt, Webb, La Salle


Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: Justin T] #2857498 12/21/11 04:37 AM
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Texas Big Game Awards

Check this out. Pay close attention to if they were killed in high fence or not. They are categorized by region on far left.


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Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: LandPirate] #2857508 12/21/11 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: LandPirate
For pure numbers of big deer, I gotta go with South Texas. Yes, big deer occur all over the state but your greatest chance to connect with one will be in South Texas.


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There's a pretty good 180 acre tract up in the panhandle! bolt



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Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: Jacob645] #2857565 12/21/11 05:00 AM
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Texas Big Game Awards

Check this out. Pay close attention to if they were killed in high fence or not. They are categorized by region on far left.


The big buck contests I don't think are an accurate barometer of where the biggest bucks come from. There's lots of hunters and ranchers that don't want to publicize their deer or where they came from for fear of poachers.

If you'll notice there are really only a handful of ranches that submitted their kills to the contest. Those ranches are the most well known hunting ranches. The only reason they submit is for notoriety and publicity. Same holds true for the majority of the big buck contests.

I have qualifying bucks from Coke, Tom Green, Live Oak and Jim Hogg Counties. I've never submitted them and never intend to.



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Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: LandPirate] #2857608 12/21/11 05:18 AM
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I don't think it's a contest really. Not like a paying contest. I couldn't find where you win anything more than a plaque. I could be wrong though. It's not scientific by any means, but gives a rough estimate of what to expect in different regions. Most are individuals. I do like that they give first harvest awards. That's pretty cool!!


Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: Jacob645] #2858024 12/21/11 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: Jacob645
I guess just the breeding down south is geared towards really wide and tall racks. If they are not being fed straight protein, it seems like most of their growth goes into length. This is not a downfall by any means. It is the main reason that South Texas deer are brought to East Texas to breed, so the width and length can mix with the mass in the East tx deer. Why do deer in east tx have more mass? I couldn't say for sure because I'm not a biologist, but I would infer that it's the ready availability of browse, mass crops, and grasses. Just a lot of variety in their diet and more food available throughout the year. Why mass and not width? You got me. Genetics I assume. I just know that I've seen some VERY large east tx bucks, and a lot of their inches come from mass at the bases. When you have that much mass it tends to turn into stickers and forks. South tx buck are huge in their own right. Wide bucks with tall tines=AWESOME! Just minerals growing in different ways.



its all about genetics in a certain area. i can go to one ranch that has a flat horn wide genetic being predominate and drove 10 miles down the road and they be heavy horned and basket racked.

it has nothing to do with south texas bucks being wider an less massive, with east texas bucks having alot of junk and being really heavy.

take a look at the los cazadores low fence leader board for proof of that. most east texas bucks came from south texas stock originally anyway, when TPWD were stocking back in the 50's



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Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: jskin] #2858031 12/21/11 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: jskin
There's a pretty good 180 acre tract up in the panhandle! bolt
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Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: jskin] #2858055 12/21/11 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: jskin
There's a pretty good 180 acre tract up in the panhandle! bolt


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Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: rtp] #2858061 12/21/11 02:38 PM
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I didnt think there was any low fence places left in South Texas? Might try the eastern side of South Texas. Lots of big deer get killed on low fence places that never get reported. Just sayin....



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Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: rtp] #2858075 12/21/11 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: rtp
I didnt think there was any low fence places left in South Texas? Might try the eastern side of South Texas. Lots of big deer get killed on low fence places that never get reported. Just sayin....


most of the lowfence places are either extreemly large, or small tracts in some way surrounded by high fences. if you go down to jim hogg, western duval, webb, there are still alot of low fence ranches, also some in frio and la salle but its getting fewer and fewer.

alot of folks don't want to report anything truly massive because they are afraid someone looking for a ranch will get wind of it and make an offer on the place or the hunting rights, therefore they will lose their spots.



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Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: rtp] #2858081 12/21/11 02:43 PM
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Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: BOBO the Clown] #2858093 12/21/11 02:47 PM
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thats true bobo, they don't want to attract the attention of poachers



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Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: txtrophy85] #2858491 12/21/11 04:35 PM
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The whole state! I can't tell you how happy I am and fortunate to have lived and have friends in Texas and come back yearly to hunt!



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Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: TonyUSMC] #2858607 12/21/11 05:11 PM
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Jones county, especially around the Noodle area.


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None, Texas has no deer.



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Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: Grayson] #2858698 12/21/11 05:30 PM
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Look at the past couple years on the Texas Big Game awards. There's big deer found in all sections, just some counties have more than others. My son took a 159 buck in Mills county, low fence.


Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: DocBailey] #2858703 12/21/11 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: DocBailey
Jones county, especially around the Noodle area.


i hunted in noodle once.

i'm pretty sure i saw a deer while driving one evening



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Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: txtrophy85] #2858705 12/21/11 05:32 PM
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google killiam ortiz ranch and look at some of the bucks that come outta there



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Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: walden] #2859060 12/21/11 07:13 PM
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East Texas, at least according to James Kroll, should have the best deer counties. They get the rain and have the genetics. But other factors like land fragmentation and lack of management practices in that region keep the deer herd from reaching its full potential.



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Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: Texan Til I Die] #2859486 12/21/11 09:04 PM
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Yeah but you have to factor in the people who hunt there



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Please 140 and 150 are all over the right parts of texas east north south west central...check out the Buck from every county thread...

Use to be on a ranch in houston county that avg deer was 140 to 150...alot of places around here and leon and robertson and madison get 130s-140s easy every year...south texas you need to be lookin for more of 150-180 range i would say


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Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
google killiam ortiz ranch and look at some of the bucks that come outta there


Big deer come out of there. The Killiam's own some big ranches down there. They also have some good GSP bloodlines! up


Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: CSF] #2860062 12/22/11 12:21 AM
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Here is what Boone & Crockett has to say, yes it is a bit outdated:

http://www.boone-crockett.org/pdf/geographicwhiteail.pdf


Re: Best deer county in Texas [Re: Southtexas36] #2860245 12/22/11 01:37 AM
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If I could pick a place for myself I would take the portions of the Waggoner ranch in either Wilbarger or Baylor county for my own personal giant deer mecca. grin

If it has to be an actual county then I go with deep S. Tx.


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