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12/05/11 03:35 PM
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I'm looking for a really flat shooting load with very high weight retention and a lot of penetration. I am not concerned about getting a lot of expansion and DO NOT want the bullet to break apart. Can anyone advise me on a bullet that fits this for a 44mag?? I will be handloading...
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Re: 44 mag
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12/05/11 04:15 PM
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Thanks very much.
I currently have three loads made up with the XTPs and should shoot them tomorrow. Is there a bullet available that's not a hollow point that works well? I actually like to find something that was more pointed, seeing as I would think it would have a better BC. Maybe I'm ignorant to something that keeps manufacturers from making bullets like this for the 44...
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Re: 44 mag
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12/05/11 04:28 PM
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There's not a lot with light weight bullets in the 44 mag and give deep penetration. The compromise would be a bonded or solid bullet, like a Barnes 200 grain X bullet. This would give you the lightest option, the fastest speed, and deep penetation. Another option would be the 225 grain Hornady FTX bullet. It has a flex tip that helps increase the BC, is safe for tube mags, and will penetrate good, though not as well as the Barnes X. Gold-Dots are bonded.....and should not come apart. Just FYI- The Gold Dots are not a bonded bullet.
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12/05/11 04:55 PM
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There's not a lot with light weight bullets in the 44 mag and give deep penetration. The compromise would be a bonded or solid bullet, like a Barnes 200 grain X bullet. This would give you the lightest option, the fastest speed, and deep penetation. Another option would be the 225 grain Hornady FTX bullet. It has a flex tip that helps increase the BC, is safe for tube mags, and will penetrate good, though not as well as the Barnes X. Gold-Dots are bonded.....and should not come apart. Just FYI- The Gold Dots are not a bonded bullet. Funny thing this got me thinking and looked up the BC of some bullets and the Hornady FTX is actually listed with a supprizingly low BC at .150 I even called Hornady and they confirmed that value and that is less tban the 200gr XTP. Sure that is not in the marketing hype. The Tech I spoke with also did not know that velocity the tests were conducted at for getting the data for calculations
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Re: 44 mag
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12/05/11 05:08 PM
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A "Keith style" hard cast from Lino-type will penatrate more than any other style bullet from my experance. XTP's expand a lot as do gold dots, a gas checked hard cast will not deform much even when it encounters med density bone.
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Re: 44 mag
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12/05/11 05:09 PM
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Honestly, the BC of pistol bullets is low across the board, and really would not make that much difference between in wind deflection or retained energy. The weight of the bullet will be the biggest factor.
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Re: 44 mag
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12/05/11 05:27 PM
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None pointed due to OAL problems.
44mag is not a flat shooting round. It's a sewer lid like the 45-70
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12/05/11 05:59 PM
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There's not a lot with light weight bullets in the 44 mag and give deep penetration. The compromise would be a bonded or solid bullet, like a Barnes 200 grain X bullet. This would give you the lightest option, the fastest speed, and deep penetation. Another option would be the 225 grain Hornady FTX bullet. It has a flex tip that helps increase the BC, is safe for tube mags, and will penetrate good, though not as well as the Barnes X. Gold-Dots are bonded.....and should not come apart. Just FYI- The Gold Dots are not a bonded bullet. Funny thing this got me thinking and looked up the BC of some bullets and the Hornady FTX is actually listed with a supprizingly low BC at .150 I even called Hornady and they confirmed that value and that is less tban the 200gr XTP. Sure that is not in the marketing hype. The Tech I spoke with also did not know that velocity the tests were conducted at for getting the data for calculations Yeah I read that as well and thought it to be VERY strange. I'm missing something obviously
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Re: 44 mag
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12/05/11 06:00 PM
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A "Keith style" hard cast from Lino-type will penatrate more than any other style bullet from my experance. XTP's expand a lot as do gold dots, a gas checked hard cast will not deform much even when it encounters med density bone. Any suggestions?
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12/05/11 07:04 PM
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12/05/11 07:12 PM
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Thanks everyone. Much needed and appreciated info. This will get me moving in the right direction
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12/09/11 03:50 AM
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There's not a lot with light weight bullets in the 44 mag and give deep penetration. The compromise would be a bonded or solid bullet, like a Barnes 200 grain X bullet. This would give you the lightest option, the fastest speed, and deep penetation. Another option would be the 225 grain Hornady FTX bullet. It has a flex tip that helps increase the BC, is safe for tube mags, and will penetrate good, though not as well as the Barnes X. Gold-Dots are bonded.....and should not come apart. Just FYI- The Gold Dots are not a bonded bullet. Well here is the description copied directly from Midway's website: "Speer's Uni-Cor construction bonds the jacket to the core for terrific uniformity, and eliminates the opening found on the base of other bullets giving Gold Dot bullets greater accuracy and the heightened core-jacket integrity also aids in more reliable expansion and greater weight retention."The Gold Dot loads I carry in my .38 for personal defense are bonded....
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Re: 44 mag
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12/09/11 03:57 AM
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A good hard cast bullet is your best bet. I shoot a ton of .44 Mag, or at least I did in the pre baby days, and if I didn't cast my own boolits I'd never trip the trigger. The hogs don't seem to mind...
I prefer a 200 gr RNFP for the increased velocity, but a 240 gas check bullet might be better for you. What exactly are you planning on doing with the load?
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12/10/11 04:03 AM
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Montana Bullet Works http://www.montanabulletworks.com/44_Mag_U99O.htmlMakes the best bullets I have found and at great prices for a hand made bullet. B.C. and Hi-Velocity mean squat in long rang handgunning. We regularly shoot 300 yards with iron sighted revolvers and 200 yards with service pistols.
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