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Springfield M1A1 or AR style 308? #2822575 12/09/11 05:14 AM
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I going to buy a semi auto .308, which do you recommend and why... Springfield M1A1 Socom II or Scout rifle... or an AR10 platform rifle?



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Re: Springfield M1A1 or AR style 308? [Re: casterbuster] #2822696 12/09/11 10:34 AM
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I would go with a LMT
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My brother had a M1A1.. Great rifle, but kinda limited compared to a AR-10.. Still the wood was cool.. With it in your hand you realized how tough soldiers were to hump that thing everywhere.. It's as tough as nails and if you had to.. You could dig a trench with it..

You can stick what ever cool stuff you want on a ar-10 type rifle with ease.. Inline with the barrel.. Follow up shots would be easier with ar-10 style rifle..



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Re: Springfield M1A1 or AR style 308? [Re: BruiserOutlaw] #2823111 12/09/11 03:23 PM
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AR10 platform without question. Will be more accurate, scope mounting much better, suppresses better, mags cheaper, etc.

M1A's can be awesome, but a fortune will be spent getting it there.



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Re: Springfield M1A1 or AR style 308? [Re: DallasShootingSupplies] #2823175 12/09/11 03:51 PM
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Agreed the AR 10 platform has more options and accuracy and is probably cheaper. From an objective stand point the AR seems like a no brainer.

However, I would get an M1 because of personal bias. Not against the AR but I just always like the look of the M1/M14.



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Re: Springfield M1A1 or AR style 308? [Re: Korean Redneck] #2823215 12/09/11 04:04 PM
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If you actually plan on suppressing it or adding 3# of useless "cool" widgets to end, an AR.

If you're going to mount a scope and shoot it, either.


Re: Springfield M1A1 or AR style 308? [Re: DallasShootingSupplies] #2823246 12/09/11 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: DallasShootingSupplies
AR10 platform without question. Will be more accurate,


Really, the AR10 more accurate? I find that hard to believe

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scope mounting much better, suppresses better, mags cheaper, etc.

M1A's can be awesome, but a fortune will be spent getting it there.


Agree with all this.



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Re: Springfield M1A1 or AR style 308? [Re: DallasShootingSupplies] #2823271 12/09/11 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: DallasShootingSupplies
AR10 platform without question. Will be more accurate, scope mounting much better, suppresses better, mags cheaper, etc.

M1A's can be awesome, but a fortune will be spent getting it there.

^^^ This! The M1A is a cool rifle, but it lacks a lot in accuracy.



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Re: Springfield M1A1 or AR style 308? [Re: godfather] #2823311 12/09/11 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: godfather
Really, the AR10 more accurate?


In my experience, yes. My 16" LMT .308 is a sub-moa rifle; my SOCOM II is not.


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He said M1A (This implies full size in my mind). With a match barrel and the right ammo I would go head to head with an AR10.
I do agree that the AR10 is going to cheaper but I do love my M1A!



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Out of the box, AR10's are without question. M1A's can made to be very accurate with alot of work and money. You will likely spend 3k to get a M1A up to its full potential. I have owned several of both. Most AR10's are MOA or SUB MOA out of the box once you find what ammo it likes. M1a's need to be bedded, or a sage type system added etc.

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Originally Posted By: DallasShootingSupplies
AR10 platform without question. Will be more accurate,


Really, the AR10 more accurate? I find that hard to believe

Originally Posted By: DallasShootingSupplies
scope mounting much better, suppresses better, mags cheaper, etc.

M1A's can be awesome, but a fortune will be spent getting it there.


Agree with all this.




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Re: Springfield M1A1 or AR style 308? [Re: godfather] #2823493 12/09/11 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: godfather
He said M1A (This implies full size in my mind).


His first sentence didn't stipulate, so in my mind, that implies he was referring to the OP's list of choices (SOCOM II and Scout). wink

Just FYI, on the subject of cost, the LMT mentioned previously is $2,500.


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I would go AR10. Larue Tactical Predatar (if weight is of concern) or an OBR (if long range precision is key).

LMT, Noveske, Colt, or KMC would also be top choices.


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I agree with the ar10 style rifle. Aside from what has already been stated, tactical reloads can be done a bit faster with the ar10.



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M1A, hands down. Don't take my word for it: There is a good reason that the M1A/M14 was brought back into service as the Designated Marksman Rifle for the Marine Corps.

You will sacrifice a little accuracy in exchange for the shorter barrel lengths on the Scout or SOCOM models.


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I do not think you give up any accuracy with the shorter barrel but you do give up some veilcity.

Have an M1A Scout and love it.



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Originally Posted By: Nate C.
M1A, hands down. Don't take my word for it: There is a good reason that the M1A/M14 was brought back into service as the Designated Marksman Rifle for the Marine Corps.

You will sacrifice a little accuracy in exchange for the shorter barrel lengths on the Scout or SOCOM models.



They are very limited in use in the military now days, they aren't even produced for the military anymore. They are old ones that are retroffited. The SR25/M110 has replaced it now. (AR10 variant).


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Originally Posted By: Nate C.
M1A, hands down. Don't take my word for it: There is a good reason that the M1A/M14 was brought back into service as the Designated Marksman Rifle for the Marine Corps.

You will sacrifice a little accuracy in exchange for the shorter barrel lengths on the Scout or SOCOM models.



The M1A rifles in service are either older NM rifles or Loaded rifles in the EBR Sage chasis, either option is very expensive.



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Re: Springfield M1A1 or AR style 308? [Re: dee] #2826316 12/11/11 12:27 AM
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I am very vamiliar with the ar15 I have shot a dpms lr308b, but I was thinking about going for a little nostalgia, this would become another critter getter deer, hogs and whatever else



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The Scout would make a fine truck gun except for the slinging of Brass. It does do a number on hogs though



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My 2 cents worth, I have both, out of the box my AR-10 could group better than my M1A. BUT being a m14 nut, I was going to get it to shoot. In the early 90s I spent right at $2000 getting it "tuned"! Will it shoot a great group now,YES! With hunting ammo my AR-10 will shoot just as good. AR-10 $1200 vs. $3200 for my M1A "Match"



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