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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 10:37 PM
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Okay, I admit it I'm lost, I wasn't trying to justify anything.
It was an attempt to display to Frenzy how anyone can stretch a definition past it's intended meaning to support one's views on a subject.
To me if it's legal it's hunting.
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
[Re: Rustler]
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11/02/11 10:38 PM
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Okay, I admit it I'm lost, I wasn't trying to justify anything.
It was an attempt to display to Frenzy how anyone can stretch a definition past it's intended meaning to support one's views on a subject.
To me if it's legal it's hunting.  Guess I should have quoted the one that I was talking about. It wasn't your definition that I was referring too...it was the other one
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 10:42 PM
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Okay, I admit it I'm lost, I wasn't trying to justify anything.
It was an attempt to display to Frenzy how anyone can stretch a definition past it's intended meaning to support one's views on a subject.
To me if it's legal it's hunting. Ok well it's legal for me to shoot a cow when it comes to the feeding trough. Does that mean I hunted a cow lol. Of coarse not. Oh, boo hoo, everyone is picking on poor little me. Just me, no body else. Boo hoo.
And you still haven't answered the question about how throwing out corn "traps" a deer. even by the definition that you looked up and posted, it ain't trapping.
Your welcome to your opinion. Just don't try to support it with flawed arguments. Wow JJH, that's real adult of you. I'd expect that kinda crap from a teenager, not a grown man lol. You did in fact use corn to trap a deer, sorry if that hurts your ego. You're entitled to your opinion and can call it whatever you like, even if you are wrong  . PS Ya'll can call it whatever, I've hunted every state in the NW and I've hunted here, I've already got my Idaho elk this year. I'm not going to call baiting a deer/elk hunting, ever. I'll still do it though, and enjoy it. But I'm gonna call it what it is.
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
[Re: Frenzy]
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11/02/11 10:44 PM
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By your definition Frenzy, using rattling horns, doe pee, grunt tube, or pretty much anything is considered trapping 
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 10:50 PM
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By your definition Frenzy, using rattling horns, doe pee, grunt tube, or pretty much anything is considered trapping  You might as well give up, the "foreigner" doesn't understand Texas. Most of them think, which seems to be their major problem. Give them 5 to 10 years and they will not be so ignorant.
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 10:51 PM
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At least I got another good sig line out of this thread...
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 10:52 PM
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By your definition Frenzy, using rattling horns, doe pee, grunt tube, or pretty much anything is considered trapping  You might as well give up, the "foreigner" doesn't understand Texas. Most of them think, which seems to be their major problem. Give them 5 to 10 years and they will not be so ignorant. Probably right 
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 10:53 PM
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I've considered booking a cow hunt. The meat would be good.
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 10:54 PM
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I've considered booking a cow hunt. The meat would be good. how would you "trap" the cow? 
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 10:55 PM
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Not my definition txshntr, it's webster's. And you are right, I guess by the definition of the word most methods of shooting a deer could fall under it. That's why when I posted I said I consider a feeder trapping/baiting, not hunting. Hunting involves chasing or searching for your prey. I do not consider sitting in a deer stand, using bait, and waiting for the deer to come to you hunting. Though in Texas, obviously that's the meaning of the word. Go to the NW and hunt and ask where the feeder's are and you'll probably get the same response's I am getting here lol.
PS Ya'll are too damn sensitive, jeez.
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 10:58 PM
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Not my definition txshntr, it's webster's. And you are right, I guess by the definition of the word most methods of shooting a deer could fall under it. That's why when I posted I said I consider a feeder trapping/baiting, not hunting. Hunting involves chasing or searching for your prey. I do not consider sitting in a deer stand, using bait, and waiting for the deer to come to you hunting. Though in Texas, obviously that's the meaning of the word. Go to the NW and hunt and ask where the feeder's are and you'll probably get the same response's I am getting here lol.
PS Ya'll are too damn sensitive, jeez. do you consider hurling a sub sonic projectile from a $1500 dollar rifle topped with a Swarovski scope "hunting"??? Just asking...
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 11:02 PM
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Definition ou the word hunt, straight from the 2011-2012 TPWD Outdoor Annual... Hunt: To capture, trap, take, or kill, and includes any attempt to capture, trap, take, or kill. Last time I checked, we obey the Outdoor annuals definitions and regulations when it comes to hunting and fishing. Merriam Websters definition doesn't amount to crap where the TPWD laws are concerned. And until I buy my TEXAS hunting/fishing license from Merriam Webster, I will use TPWDs definitions. Link to definitions- Definitions
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 11:02 PM
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Not my definition txshntr, it's webster's. And you are right, I guess by the definition of the word most methods of shooting a deer could fall under it. That's why when I posted I said I consider a feeder trapping/baiting, not hunting. Hunting involves chasing or searching for your prey. I do not consider sitting in a deer stand, using bait, and waiting for the deer to come to you hunting. Though in Texas, obviously that's the meaning of the word. Go to the NW and hunt and ask where the feeder's are and you'll probably get the same response's I am getting here lol.
PS Ya'll are too damn sensitive, jeez. do you consider hurling a sub sonic projectile from a $1500 dollar rifle topped with a Swarovski scope "hunting"??? Just asking... I don't know...do you consider shooting a domesticated deer who's been trained to show up at a feeder "hunting"??? I already know the answer but just asking....
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 11:04 PM
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Yes...including cats, dogs, beavers and especially if their in a pen and tied to a post...
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 11:05 PM
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Yes...including cats, dogs, beavers and especially if their in a pen and tied to a post... That one made pepsi come out my nose just a little lmao.
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 11:05 PM
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A lot of the "foreigners" to Texas do not realize that natural deer food is not in an abundance in most of Texas. They were not here when the deer population in the Hill Country was the only sustainable and hunt able deer population in the state. It was the automatic corn feeders that created and sustain the current deer population.
If feeders were banned today, a large portion of the deer population would starve to death and the population would revert to the pre 1970 days. Where to see 1 buck was great year, to kill one was considered an act of God. Doe permits were allocated in the counties based on the population of deer, in 1970, Taylor county landowners were given 1 doe permit per 325 acres.
We have to forgive these "foreigners" for they do not know enough about Texas to make an informed comment. Let us enlighten their ignorance instead of condemning them stupidity. Try reading this again. On edit: And it is killing not hunting or harvesting, we do this because the state legislature wont's allow us to shoot "foreigners" or ignorant people. 
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 11:19 PM
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Not my definition txshntr, it's webster's. And you are right, I guess by the definition of the word most methods of shooting a deer could fall under it. That's why when I posted I said I consider a feeder trapping/baiting, not hunting. Hunting involves chasing or searching for your prey. I do not consider sitting in a deer stand, using bait, and waiting for the deer to come to you hunting. Though in Texas, obviously that's the meaning of the word. Go to the NW and hunt and ask where the feeder's are and you'll probably get the same response's I am getting here lol.
PS Ya'll are too damn sensitive, jeez. do you consider hurling a sub sonic projectile from a $1500 dollar rifle topped with a Swarovski scope "hunting"??? Just asking... I don't know...do you consider shooting a domesticated deer who's been trained to show up at a feeder "hunting"??? I already know the answer but just asking.... How ignorant are you? They are not in any way domestic, and dang sure aren't trained. They don't have to show up to our trap we have sprung for them. You really need to learn what the definition of hunting is.
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 11:27 PM
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somebody needs to put this yankee on a thousand acre south texas pasture that doesnt have a single road or sendero and let him stock his butt off, give him two days and see what he can do, prolly end up as coyote crap
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 11:36 PM
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somebody needs to put this yankee on a thousand acre south texas pasture that doesnt have a single road or sendero and let him stock his butt off, give him two days and see what he can do, prolly end up as coyote crap To foreigners, a Yankee is an American. To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner. To Northerners, a Yankee is an Easterner. To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander. To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter. And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 11:51 PM
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In Texas you are a foreigner unless you were born here. Some of us even consider 3rd or 4th generation Texans still outsider foreigners. My family was here when it still belonged to Mexico.
Your opinion is worth about the price of used toilet paper.
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/02/11 11:54 PM
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 To Texans a Yankee is: A person who has an elitist attitude. Thinks they know more than anyone else even though it's painfully obvious to those around them they don't. Thinks they are just flat superior to everyone else just because they breathe. The above regardless of geography.
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/03/11 12:07 AM
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I'm not the one resorting to insults and name calling so whats that say about the attitude's here? Also, I belive that native texans are actually the minority in texas. So you should be glad that these "foreigners" are here to pay your bills  . I know that'll getcha natives fired up lol.
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/03/11 12:12 AM
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I'm not the one resorting to insults and name calling so whats that say about the attitude's here? Also, I belive that native texans are actually the minority in texas. So you should be glad that these "foreigners" are here to pay your bills  . I know that'll getcha natives fired up lol. well your wrong people born here stay here, they damn sure dont want to live in no northern liberal state, and all yankees come here because they done screwed up their state with the liberal mentality, we wecome all but dont bring that liberal mindset with you.
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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I'm not the one resorting to insults and name calling so whats that say about the attitude's here? Also, I belive that native texans are actually the minority in texas. So you should be glad that these "foreigners" are here to pay your bills  . I know that'll getcha natives fired up lol. well your wrong people born here stay here, they damn sure dont want to live in no northern liberal state, and all yankees come here because they done screwed up their state with the liberal mentality, we wecome all but dont bring that liberal mindset with you. So my opinion on hunting vs baiting makes me a liberal? I'd love to here how you came up with that crap lol. Edit: To all you sportsman who respect other people and their opinions, I salute you and good luck. To the the folks here who resort to name calling and insulting someone they disagree with, I'll pray for you and yours. Not going to post anymore on the subject.
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting
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11/03/11 12:18 AM
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